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Poll MCU Thor vs AN52 Superman (74 votes)

Thor 35%
Superman 65%

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Fight takes place in New York City

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@crunch5481 said:
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@crunch5481: no it wasn’t lol, there landing just made a mid sized crater in the street and the shockwave just broke some glass. loki was never koed by some chariot and hulk beating up loki is a feat for hulk not an anti feat for Loki seeing as his one of the physical strongest characters in the verse. And? The explosion was shown to be much bigger an calced to be higher then what supes has dished out. ya expect it’s Shockwave alone covered the town.not even gonna waste time explaining the tornado

Superman's shockwaves couldn't dissipate Lois Lane

Obviously PIS. A shockwave big enough to create big waves in the water a mile away and shatter glass that far out would kill a human standing next to it.

Same goes for Destroyer energy that cracks ground and blows up stuff on contact

Destroyer Energy was dissipated in a uni-plane shockwave, of which Thor was above. Meaning his exposure was significantly less than what it could have been. This is supported by simply looking at the shape of the shockwave and the fact that it did nothing to the environment.

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@rajjarsalt said:
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@crunch5481: Destroyer

That makes no sense and isn't supported by on-screen feats. That statement is equivalent to the 3million pound leviathan statement.

Uh yea it is, IM repulsors aren't that powerful and have nowhere near its visuals

I mean Leviathans have anti-gravity tech working on them to the point they can float in Earth's atmosphere, I don't see humans doing that

Dead Leviathan would have crushed building it was laying on top of if it was 3 million pounds.

100,000 times as powerful as Iron Man's repulsors is not supported by on-screen feats. It is certainly more powerful, but by anywhere near 100,000 times is just not true. The damage it caused would have been much more severe to the environment.

It would have, if those anti-gravs didn't soften the fall.

On-screen visuals you mean, but I don't see Iron Man's repulsors making explosions that size

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@rajjarsalt said:
@crunch5481 said:
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@crunch5481: no it wasn’t lol, there landing just made a mid sized crater in the street and the shockwave just broke some glass. loki was never koed by some chariot and hulk beating up loki is a feat for hulk not an anti feat for Loki seeing as his one of the physical strongest characters in the verse. And? The explosion was shown to be much bigger an calced to be higher then what supes has dished out. ya expect it’s Shockwave alone covered the town.not even gonna waste time explaining the tornado

Superman's shockwaves couldn't dissipate Lois Lane

Obviously PIS. A shockwave big enough to create big waves in the water a mile away and shatter glass that far out would kill a human standing next to it.

Same goes for Destroyer energy that cracks ground and blows up stuff on contact

Destroyer Energy was dissipated in a uni-plane shockwave, of which Thor was above. Meaning his exposure was significantly less than what it could have been. This is supported by simply looking at the shape of the shockwave and the fact that it did nothing to the environment.

Uniplane shockwave that Thor was right next to the opening it was fired from.

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The Superman/Doomsday shockwave is supposed to be impressive?

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The Superman/Doomsday shockwave is supposed to be impressive?

Shhhhh XD

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oh ok,still not better then the explosions. Thor has been able to shake the entire sheild helicarier with one blow so I doubt that.

He got sent flying and it just cut to black widow, there is nothing implying that he was knocked out

This calc

https://www.narutoforums.org/xfa-blog-entry/bifrost-explosion-mcu.34691/

For bifrost explosion

From what I’ve seen there clashes have only shakes or damaged one city block at best

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@byondeon:

blows away slowdinson

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thor was dazed and bruised from a minor bullrush into a stone church. superman would no sell that with ease.

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Shhhhh XD

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@organic said:

@byondeon:

blows away slowdinson

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thor was dazed and bruised from a minor bullrush into a stone church. superman would no sell that with ease.

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Shhhhh XD

Those aren't even Captain America level.

Malekith had the Reality stone in the fight, which is FAR more powerful than anything from the Nu52 movies. Also, you should also take into consideration that Thor was hundreds of times if not thousand of times weaker there than he was Post-Awakening..

And Thor would do that to Trigon Pre-Awakening btw.

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lmao

you are delusional.

thor has never even beat anyone with a name in all his movies. even the elf dropped thor on his ass. human hydra agents were easily able to tag and track him

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@crunch5481 said:
@rajjarsalt said:
@crunch5481 said:
@rajjarsalt said:

@crunch5481: Destroyer

That makes no sense and isn't supported by on-screen feats. That statement is equivalent to the 3million pound leviathan statement.

Uh yea it is, IM repulsors aren't that powerful and have nowhere near its visuals

I mean Leviathans have anti-gravity tech working on them to the point they can float in Earth's atmosphere, I don't see humans doing that

Dead Leviathan would have crushed building it was laying on top of if it was 3 million pounds.

100,000 times as powerful as Iron Man's repulsors is not supported by on-screen feats. It is certainly more powerful, but by anywhere near 100,000 times is just not true. The damage it caused would have been much more severe to the environment.

It would have, if those anti-gravs didn't soften the fall.

On-screen visuals you mean, but I don't see Iron Man's repulsors making explosions that size

Lol, terrible arguments. It still fell on top of the building. And no sh*t Iron Man's repulsors don't make explosions that size, first of all the explosions are because the beam hit cars and a gas station, second just because they are bigger explosions does not mean they are 100,000 times more powerful. Obviously Destroyer beams are more powerful than Iron Man's. I admitted that already. Just not near 100,000 times, and they need not be that much more powerful in order to produce the damage that they did.

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@crunch5481 said:
@rajjarsalt said:
@crunch5481 said:
@rajjarsalt said:
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@crunch5481: no it wasn’t lol, there landing just made a mid sized crater in the street and the shockwave just broke some glass. loki was never koed by some chariot and hulk beating up loki is a feat for hulk not an anti feat for Loki seeing as his one of the physical strongest characters in the verse. And? The explosion was shown to be much bigger an calced to be higher then what supes has dished out. ya expect it’s Shockwave alone covered the town.not even gonna waste time explaining the tornado

Superman's shockwaves couldn't dissipate Lois Lane

Obviously PIS. A shockwave big enough to create big waves in the water a mile away and shatter glass that far out would kill a human standing next to it.

Same goes for Destroyer energy that cracks ground and blows up stuff on contact

Destroyer Energy was dissipated in a uni-plane shockwave, of which Thor was above. Meaning his exposure was significantly less than what it could have been. This is supported by simply looking at the shape of the shockwave and the fact that it did nothing to the environment.

Uniplane shockwave that Thor was right next to the opening it was fired from.

Not in the plane the shockwave was emitted in.

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@organic said:

@byondeon:

lmao

you are delusional.

thor has never even beat anyone with a name in all his movies. even the elf dropped thor on his ass. human hydra agents were easily able to tag and track him

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Uh..:

  • Iron Man got one-shot by Thor, several times
  • Hulk several times
  • Thanos several times
  • A star
  • Surtur
  • Malekith

Need I mention more? All of those are above Superman in the Nu52 movies..

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@byondeon:

you are a delusional liar

thor would have died if malekith ship landed on him.

hulk was ko by cement weights . hulk has never been ko by thor. thors best punch didnt even change hulks momemtum. also the director stated hulk went easy on him. hilk didnt weant to lose thor as a pet.

gravity wells in dark world. did you even watch the movie? lmao

you are a troll

begone

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@alphamon said:

@crunch5481:

oh ok,still not better then the explosions. Thor has been able to shake the entire sheild helicarier with one blow so I doubt that.

Evidence?

He got sent flying and it just cut to black widow, there is nothing implying that he was knocked out

He was offscreen and didn't do anything for that period of time. Huge implication he was taken out of the fight for a bit.

This calc

https://www.narutoforums.org/xfa-blog-entry/bifrost-explosion-mcu.34691/

For bifrost explosion

From what I’ve seen there clashes have only shakes or damaged one city block at best4

I raise you the inconsistency of Loki being able to tank nowhere near that amount of force at any other point. And in fact being taken out by significantly less force. Additionally, that calc is not the force they experience but rather the force of the shockwave.

Counter-calc: Thor and Loki are launched into the air for 18 seconds after that explosion (part of the scene is also in slow-mo the real time would be less), assuming Earth gravity of 9.81 m/s^2, that means they were launched upwards with only 0.000093 tons of TNT worth of Energy. Superman traveling at the speed of sound in a bullrush would have 0.0014 tons of TNT worth of Energy, which is 15x more energy.

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Supes here is. Way to durable, strong and fast.

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@organic said:

@byondeon:

you are a delusional liar

thor would have died if malekith ship landed on him.

He have tanked much worse than that during that time.

hulk was ko by cement weights . hulk has never been ko by thor.

Never said he one-shot Hulk. He toyed with Hulk at first when they fought in their Arena Fight. Then he got serious and was about to 2-shot him when the Grandmaster stopped the fight.

thors best punch didnt even change hulks momemtum.

What are you even referring to here?

also the director stated hulk went easy on him. hilk didnt weant to lose thor as a pet.

Hulk was about to lose, which is why the Grandmaster was intervening the fight by KOing Thor with the obedience disk.

gravity wells in dark world. did you even watch the movie? lmao

I did. Malekith was FAR superior to anything Superman have fought and beat the snot out of him in their fight. I don't know what the frick is so hard to accept.

you are a troll

Considering Thor's superior feats, I don't see how anyone other than the people voting Superman are trolls.

begone

Bring better feats for this Superman and you have an argument.

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Superman punches the gut out of Thor with the new feats. Way too much force for Thor to deal here.

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Superman punches the gut out of Thor with the new feats. Way too much force for Thor to deal here.

He doesnt. Lacking feats that would put him on Thor's level

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Damm, then I guess superman was KOed for a sec on the bridge I guess if we’re going by your logic

your only so called “inconsistency“ is basically trying to say loki was somehow knocked out because we didn’t see him for a couple of seconds, despite the fact next time we see him he gets up almost immediately and then we see him take a beating from the hulk and isn’t KOed. So even if your ”inconsistency” was vailed it would be counter by the fact loki has already been shown to be able to tank and survive way higher levels of force multiple times

So instead of calculating the the explosion from all sides your just going by how long they were in the air, interesting.

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Loki survived a black hole.. Twice.

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@byondeon:

you are delusional

its patently obvious you are adverse to facts but live in your remedial head canon.

toodles

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@organic said:

@byondeon:

you are delusional

Considering Thor's feats trumps this Superman, I don't see how though..

its patently obvious you are adverse to facts but live in your remedial head canon.

Superman have no feats that would put him on Thor's level. I don't what else you want me to say. I can't change Superman's feats to be above Thor's feats. Thor simply have better feats.

You might like Superman more but that doesn't change the fact that he has no feats that would put him higher than Thor.

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@byondeon:

You are delusional

Thor gets cut , and bruised in every film.

He has limited stamina and was easily tagged and tracked by human hydra agents

Lady siff saved thor from an arrow

This superman tagged the flash that can travel in time

Thor bloodied and on all fours while kurse walked to him. Thor even braced for the boulder

Sup would no sell the boulder

Cyborg superman was hitting suoerman so hard he was shaking the judtice league satellite

Cement weights ko the hulk. Thor has never ko the hulk. Those are facts.

You have nothing but headcanon. I could debunk so mich more but because you are stuck in your headcanon its useless.

Facts trump headcanon

This superman bodies thor before he can blink based on facts

Final reply

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@byondeon: you can win against a troll, hater or a fanboy. Just ignore him

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@byondeon said:

Loki survived a black hole.. Twice.

1. THis bifrost void wasn't black hole at all. Arguable it is if we use marvel.com statements but this is more comicbook sites not movie, but even thou Loki could die in the process as Thanos, Odin, Frigga, Heimdall were saying and confirming ( Thanos resurected him somehow ).

2. THis is good feat speaking of black hole grenade, but Loki didn't even touch this singularity not event horizon while this black hole was very miniature .

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@mama7 said:
@byondeon said:

Loki survived a black hole.. Twice.

1. THis bifrost void wasn't black hole at all. Arguable it is if we use marvel.com statements but this is more comicbook sites not movie, but even thou Loki could die in the process as Thanos, Odin, Frigga, Heimdall were saying and confirming ( Thanos resurected him somehow ).

2. THis is good feat speaking of black hole grenade, but Loki didn't even touch this singularity not event horizon while this black hole was very miniature .

Black Holes.. Also, he survived both.

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@alphamon said:

@byondeon: you can win against a troll, hater or a fanboy. Just ignore him

That is true

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@byondeon: first one still all of it was off screen without details. Loki could even be obliterated in process and nothing is officially stated to be black hole. We dont know how has that happened. Remember Thanos said no more resurection this time. Maybe he cpuld be metaphorical but also he could be serious about resurection thing

2nd feat was ompressive but nothing close to survivong event horizonts.

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#130  Edited By organic

Superman effortlessy lifts an object that weighs far more tham kurse boulder. The boulder that bloodied and knocked thor on his ass

https://imgur.com/qQDPbgf

But

Who said mcu wankers have logic?

Lock.this thread

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Superman stomps dies

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@organic said:

Superman effortlessy lifts an object that weighs far more tham kurse boulder. The boulder that bloodied and knocked thor on his ass

https://imgur.com/qQDPbgf

But

Who said mcu wankers have logic?

Lock.this thread

That pales in comparison to Thor's feats.

And Kurse beating Thor is enough to make him punch harder than Superman.

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thor still wins

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#134 death4bunnies  Moderator  Online

Based on the arguments above.

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Superman wins.

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@byondeon:

Thor was bloodied and down from a boulder that superman would no sell

Thor was dazed and brusied from a minor bull rush into a open stone church . You know the same movie where he cracked a vib core that was powering the antigravs and holding the 2 km landmass together. The same ultron that failed to even ko cap. You fail

Thor has never even hit anyone as hard as superman

Superman knocked back trigon with ease. Clearly even striking at trigon at mach speeds didnt even daze superman. That is far above kurse boulder or any thor hit

Superman easily knocked a giant sea creature into bedrock and shook it

Sup and dd were hitting each othet so hard at the end the ground was quaking.

Superman hits much harder

Superman is far faster

Superman has far better dureabilty and stamina

You have completely failed

I also beleive you are a raj alt.

Lock this thread

Superman bodies thor easily and quickly

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@death4bunnies:

Thor was bloodied and down from a boulder that superman would no sell

Thor was dazed and brusied from a minor bull rush into a open stone church . You know the same movie where he cracked a vib core that was powering the antigravs and holding the 2 km landmass together. The same ultron that failed to even ko cap. You fail

Thor has never even hit anyone as hard as superman

Superman knocked back trigon with ease. Clearly even striking at trigon at mach speeds didnt even daze superman. That is far above kurse boulder or any thor hit

Superman easily knocked a giant sea creature into bedrock and shook it

Sup and dd were hitting each othet so hard at the end the ground was quaking.

Superman hits much harder

Superman is far faster

Superman has far better dureabilty and stamina

Hopefully common sense trumps your mcu headcanon

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#137 death4bunnies  Moderator  Online

@organic:

What in the bloody hell are you talking about??

I literally said superman wins, and thats kinda all I said.

Your argument is trash tho.

Dont tag me you fodder.

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@organic: Why claim he lost to Kurse etc when he got FAR stronger in later movies. Also, Thor from Dark World would still body this Superman.

Thor is a billion tonner, something that Superman hasn't shown close to be.

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Based on the arguments above.

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Superman wins.

He isn't winning.

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#140 death4bunnies  Moderator  Online

@byondeon said:
@death4bunnies said:

Based on the arguments above.

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Superman wins.

He isn't winning.

Superman??

Ya, ya he is.

Why do you think Thor will win?

I can pretty much prove that Superman is much faster(Comparable to Flash and Omega beam if a bit below), durable enough to nosell lightning(tanks city block level energy attacks), and hits plenty hard enough to KO Thor with a few dozen strikes.(Doomsday and Darksied)

Seems like plenty.

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@byondeon said:
@death4bunnies said:

Based on the arguments above.

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Superman wins.

He isn't winning.

Superman??

Ya, ya he is.

Why do you think Thor will win?

Because Superman haven't done anything that would put Thor down.

I can pretty much prove that Superman is much faster(Comparable to Flash and Omega beam if a bit below),

Thor is faster than that. I could agree Superman is faster but outrun the OB's isn't that impressive.

durable enough to nosell lightning(tanks city block level energy attacks),

Thor is far stronger than that but Superman isn't on that level.

and hits plenty hard enough to KO Thor with a few dozen strikes.(Doomsday and Darksied)

Neither of those would beat Thor. And Thor would decap them with low-diff.

Seems like plenty.

Neither is enough to KO Thor.

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@byondeon:

You are lieing

Superman could easily do the hyoerbole ice breaking /ring feat. You are a delusional wanker

The iris wasnt even a first class lever and after thors flex , the door kept opening

Rockets ship is what provided the power to break the ice. The rings were already set in motion but the ice blocked it. Thor disnt even throw rockets ship far enough and thor stated "more power"

You are a imbecile if you think thor is a trillion tonner. Loki manhandled thor. An ice giant overpowered thor as well. Who knew grandmasters chair can hold a trillion tonner. Lmao

Who knew kurse boulder was 10 trillion tons. Who knew ultron amd kurse were mega trillion tonners?

Lmao

Mate

Stop sniffing glue

I refuse to reply further

You are a true blue mcu wanker and no facts can burst your headcanon

Take care

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@eredin12:

Uhmm

Mcu wankers truly travel in packs

Loki easily.survived thors lightening

Iron man easily did

Malekith easily did (before powered up)

You have failed

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Depends on how you evaluate Batman's concern of Superman being able to pull the moon out of the sky.

Otherwise its pretty much DCEU Superman vs MCU Thor again.

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@organic: Thor literally had to provide half the force. And no, they literally moved the ring, while simultaneously breaking the ice. The rings needed to be moved for the forge to start up again.

Also, this Superman is literally not even able to hit with the force to destroy a city block.. Thor is exponentially stronger and more durable than that.

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@organic said:

@eredin12:

Uhmm

Mcu wankers truly travel in packs

Loki easily.survived thors lightening

Never got hit by it.

Iron man easily did

It supercharged him, and then he got destroyed by Thor.

Not to mention Thor one-shot him in Endgame when the suit is strong enough to take a beating from Thanos.

Malekith easily did (before powered up)

He didn't. But Malekith would beat this Superman so I don't see your point here even. Also, Thor literally beat an infinity stone powered Malekith, something that Superman could only dream of doing.

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@byondeon: half? Thor had to match the force Rocket's ship was putting out.

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@byondeon: half? Thor had to match the force Rocket's ship was putting out.

But he had to use half the force that was breaking it.. Should have formulated better to make that clear, yes, he had to use the same amount of force (or slightly less than the ship).

The guy said that Rocket's ship did all the work. I meant that Thor used half the force needed to pull the rings.