MCU Thor vs 616 Thor: BUT WITH A TWIST!!

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Who wins MCU Thor while wielding 616 Mjolnir or 616 Thor with Storm Breaker. Both Thors are at their best and only have their own powers no inherited, ie Odin-force, and Mjolnir has all abilities in 616 universe(just to clarify).

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616 Thor throws the useless weapon away and kills MCU Thor with the flick of his fingers.

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616 Mjolnir would boost MCU Thor to 616 Thor's level. But 616 Thor is using an axe. Thrown with the strength of 616 Thor I guess it can pierce unless 616 Thor has feats of tanking piercing based attacks thrust with the strength of someone his equal and than MCU Thor would tank it.

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@jashro44: OP does say no powers are inherited.

Also doesn't Stormbreaker function pretty similarly for BRB to Mjolnir?

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@jashro44: OP does say no powers are inherited.

Also doesn't Stormbreaker function pretty similarly for BRB to Mjolnir?

I'm pretty sure OP means MCU Stormbreaker.

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616 Thor smashes.

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MCU Stormbreaker not Beta Ray Bill’s

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#8  Edited By Noone1996

Pretty much what Takenstew said. Wielding 616 Mjolnir isn’t going to make a difference when 616 Thor can one-shot MCU Thor with a casual hit. Especially since 616 Thor has tanked hits from 616 Mjolnir before.

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MCU Thor wouldn't be worthy of the 616 hammer lol

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MCU Thor. 616 Thor would be to busy feeling sorry for himself that he lost his hammer

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616 Thor is too slow, MCU Thor stomps.

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616 Thor drops the weapon and murders.

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@jashro44: OP does say no powers are inherited.

Also doesn't Stormbreaker function pretty similarly for BRB to Mjolnir?

I assume no inherited powers meant external amps because the OP lists the odin force. Otherwise this thread is kind of pointless and spite.

Yea as far as I know.

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#16  Edited By PastorJarvis

Thor stomp.

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Lmao.

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616 thor one shots. Easily

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@jashro44: I was actually thing more of just the OF

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MCU Thor four-shots.

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@reevjar: Can you prove that MCU Thor could hit that hard?

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There has been no proof that MCU Thor would even be worthy to hold 616 Mjolnir considering the damn hammer becomes picky lately and there is no evidence that 616 Thor can’t call it back. Beside all of those, let’s say 616 Thor can’t get his hammer back and MCU Thor is fine with that. Even then 616 Thor would still kill him to death.

616 Thor one shots with an eye beam.

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@chad_duby said:

@reevjar: Can you prove that MCU Thor could hit that hard?

The shockwave of the Mjolnir slam in Sokovia. Its radius stops at that faint circle we see. Hulk wasn't even hitting Thor with full windup - just a forearm extension. Like if he was reeling in a fishing rod to pull caught fish.

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Can you prove those strikes were even building level?

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@reevjar: So? Just a city busting feat at best.

Why can’t I? We have seen him in the sun before and he wasn’t hurt. And we have seen him tanking solar system- size explosion and he wasn’t as badly injured as he was when he got hit by his own hammer.

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@chad_duby said:

@reevjar: So? Just a city busting feat at best.

I wouldn't call those strikes from Hulk city-busting...

Why can’t I? We have seen him in the sun before and he wasn’t hurt.

Eh, I'd bet inconsistency - was this before or after the Uncanny Avengers run? The sun has harmed him before, so I'm not sure if it's that's good of a baseline.

And we have seen him tanking solar system- size explosion and he wasn’t as badly injured as he was when he got hit by his own hammer.

When was this?

Independently, he got clowned in Siege by a team effort of Dark Avengers who have less striking power than his MCU counterpart. He did get hit by Sentry before that, though.

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@reevjar: But it is.

Waaaay after. Just recently. He flew through the Sun without dying and without being severely damaged.

Nope. They weren’t weaker by his MCU counterpart if they can harm him.

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@chad_duby said:

@reevjar: But it is.

How?

Independently, I'd scale up MCU Thor hitting with the 616 Mjolnir.

Waaaay after. Just recently. He flew through the Sun without dying and without being severely damaged.

Strange. If you are talking about War of the Realms, I thought Mjolnir was in Asgard's sun.

Nope. They weren’t weaker by his MCU counterpart if they can harm him.

Harming Thor doesn't necessarily mean your DC is up to scale. Scaling goes both ways.

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@reevjar: Because it can hurt him, simple.

Before War of realms, Thor was searching for the remain of Mjolnir in the Sun and wasn’t burnt to death. What was actually in the Sun was the world tree with which Thor used to reobtain MJOLNIR.

The collateral damage might not be but focused damage certainly is.

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@chad_duby said:

@reevjar: Because it can hurt him, simple.

But it can't be because Thor can be hurt by blunt strikes that < city-level?

The collateral damage might not be but focused damage certainly is.

How exactly are one's fists supposed to be better at focusing damage than an uru weapon specifically designed and confirmed to focus one's power?

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@reevjar: How badly was Thor‘s face injured in that panel? That alone could tell you it was above city level.
Judging on the damage they did to a being even more powerful than the one with Uru hammer?

So your entire argument is that because Thor has some low ends something McU Mjolnir can dish out can simply mash his head? Tell Me, how many time has Mcu Mjolnir busted a city?

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@reevjar: How badly was Thor‘s face injured in that panel? That alone could tell you it was above city level.

Bruh Loki did Thor even dirtier in the Deadpool Art of War comic. Is Loki's striking power above city-level too?

Judging on the damage they did to a being even more powerful than the one with Uru hammer?

Last strike didn't even move the 600 something pound Asgardian (IIRC) beyond a meter or so. DC can be misleading often.

So your entire argument is that because Thor has some low ends something McU Mjolnir can dish out can simply mash his head?

My arg is that if Thor can be damaged with less than city-busting strikes, then there's room for 616 Mjolnir harming him with MCU Thor's hands, considering what MCU Thor did with MCU Mjolnir.

Tell Me, how many time has Mcu Mjolnir busted a city?

Too little, but enough for you to make your point. Still, it's 616 Mjolnir that is being involved.

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@reevjar: No, but he has magic which can hurt Thor directly and he is a trickster. Why is this even a question?

And? It is has proven to be capable of damaging something Sun couldn’t burnt and its gravity couldn’t crush.

Judging from all the feats combined, there is not even a chance it can tickle Comic Thor.

Lmao, prove to me that he can swing as hard. It is not too late. How do you know he is going to do better with 616 Mjolnir?

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@chad_duby said:

@reevjar: No, but he has magic which can hurt Thor directly and he is a trickster. Why is this even a question?

Because it was all blunt force.

And? It is has proven to be capable of damaging something Sun couldn’t burnt and its gravity couldn’t crush.

Is it the default to scale up all the strikes?

Judging from all the feats combined, there is not even a chance it can tickle Comic Thor.

F=ma should help for an object like 616 Mjolnir.

Lmao, prove to me that he can swing as hard. It is not too late. How do you know he is going to do better with 616 Mjolnir?

The OP assumes he can wield it, right? I thought that being a given, it wouldn't mean he'd be impaired in his ability to wield it normally.

Well, 616 Mjolnir is superior to MCU Mjolnir in every way. It even has/had a God Tempest inside of it.

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@reevjar: Still, it was Loki and Loki can use his magic to do blunt force trick as well. You would think that a guy having vibranium claws stabbed through his head would be physically dead But no, he has magic to keep himself alive just like he has to hurt Thor.

Pretty much.

If you think physic should apply then I can argue MCU Thor can’t hit comic Thor in the first place because he can send a guy through the Earth in a split second. To do that he has to be fast.

We have seen different wielders, like Bill, Jane, Loki himself, Odin, Surfer and even Thor and none of them were the same when wielding it. Bill was almost as good as Thor, Loki was an idiot, Odin was better than all of them, Jane was better than Odin and Surfer was better than all of them. So how is it going to be the same?

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> "MCU Thor four-shots."

> Shows a feat from a character that is infinitely stronger than MCU Thor.

Mhm.

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@takenstew22 said:

> "MCU Thor four-shots."

> Shows a feat from a character that is infinitely stronger than MCU Thor.

Mhm.

616 Hulk?

Yep.

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mcu thor gets his block knocked off in a mismatch

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#39 buildhare  Online

Even when you literally equalize there stats by giving MCU Thor 616 Mjolnir we still get shit like Odison oneshotting. Why bother?

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#40  Edited By Eredin12  Online

Are people blind or ignorant, how can 616 Thor one-shot himslef, by holding Mjolnir MCU Thor gets equal stats to him( like she Thor and she beat Odin) but he is far strogner since he has Mjolnir and 616 Thor has axe and 616 Thor striking power with Mjolnir >>>>His striking power without Mjolnir so MCU Thor easily wins but people still say he one-shots with finger, comic bias on this forum really knows no bounds, i feel if omnipotent chracter appeared in MCU, people would say 616 Hulk still one-shots him or Deardevil beats him with pressure points

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MCU Thor w/616 Meow Meow ftw.

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#42  Edited By TakenStew22

@eredin12 said:

Are people blind or ignorant, how can 616 Thor one-shot himslef, by holding Mjolnir MCU Thor gets equal stats to him( like she Thor and she beat Odin) but he is far strogner since he has Mjolnir and 616 Thor has axe and 616 Thor striking power with Mjolnir >>>>His striking power without Mjolnir so MCU Thor easily wins but people still say he one-shots with finger, comic bias on this forum really knows no bounds, i feel if omnipotent chracter appeared in MCU, people would say 616 Hulk still one-shots him or Deardevil beats him with pressure points

Read the OP bud. Both characters are at their own power level.

616 Thor oneshots.

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#43  Edited By Eredin12  Online

@takenstew22: I did and like Jarsho said i assume no inherited powers meant external amps because the OP lists the Odin force. OP himslef said this "and Mjolnir has all abilities in 616 universe (just to clarify)." and one of the main abilities of Mjolnir is to give its wielder power of Thor, so MCU Thor would be that strong here, otherise this would be an extreme mismatch and would mean OP is a troll

616 Thor oneshots.

No, if MCU Thor has Mjolnior and its powers he does not

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@eredin12: But you don't get the same power levels as Thor tho. BRB is the only one that was equal to Thor with the hammer, and that was also because he was equal to Thor without it..

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#45  Edited By Eredin12  Online

@byondeon:

But you don't get the same power levels as Thor tho. BRB is the only one that was equal to Thor with the hammer, and that was also because he was equal to Thor without it..

Enchantment says "whosoever holds this hammer, if he be worthy shall possess the power of Thor" Jane( literally normal human) was pretty comparable to Thor when she was worthy

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@eredin12 said:

@takenstew22: I did and like Jarsho said i assume no inherited powers meant external amps because the OP lists the Odin force. OP himslef said this "and Mjolnir has all abilities in 616 universe(just to clarify)." and one of the main abilities of Mjolnir is to give its wielder power of Thor, so MCU Thor would be that strong here

It doesn't matter because 616 Thor has already tanked Mjolnir attacks and other attacks with similar or better damage output, that and MCU Thor is nowhere near as strong as his comic counterpart so he isn't beating him in a few strikes.

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No, if MCU Thor has Mjolnior and its powers he does not

His durability is still the same and 616 Thor can legitimately oneshot him with a single punch.

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Thor wins

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#48  Edited By Eredin12  Online

@takenstew22:

It doesn't matter because 616 Thor has already tanked Mjolnir attacks and other attacks with similar or better damage output, that and MCU Thor is nowhere near as strong as his comic counterpart so he isn't beating him in a few strikes.

But was also knocked out by few Mjolnir hits and Mjolnir is planet buster if i am not wrong wich should be enaugh to hurt and knock out Thor prety easily, and before you say Hulk is infinitely stronger than MCU Thor, yes that is true but he is also weaker than 616 Thor with Mjolnir and when he had Mjolnir his striking was only equal to 616 Thor with Mjolnir, and yes 616 Thor is much stronger and would easily stomp if MCU Thor did not have hammer, but with hammer MCU Thor becomes just as strong as he is

His durability is still the same and 616 Thor can legitimately oneshot him with a single punch.

He gains powers of Thor, including his durability( Jane Foster)

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@eredin12 said:

But was also knocked out and before you say Hulk is infinitely stronger than MCU Thor, yes that is true but he is also weaker than 616 Thor with Mjolnir and when he had Mjolnir his striking was only equal to 616 Thor with Mjolnir, and yes 616 Thor is much stronger and would easily stomp if MCU Thor did not have hammer, but with hammer MCU Thor becomes just as strong as he is

No... that's... not how it works. At all. MCU Thor is not as strong as these characters with or without 616 Mjolnir. Your strength doesn't increase once you have the hammer. Hulk is just as strong or stronger than Thor.

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He gains powers of Thor, including his durability( Jane Foster)

Oh my god dude. MCU THOR DOES NOT GAIN 616 THOR'S STATS IN THIS BATTLE.

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#50  Edited By Eredin12  Online

@takenstew22:

No... that's... not how it works. At all. MCU Thor is not as strong as these characters with or without 616 Mjolnir. Your strength doesn't increase once you have the hammer. Hulk is just as strong or stronger than Thor.

Yes you are right he is not as strong as them without Mjolnir but he is with Mjolnir, that is how Mjolnir works, Mjolnir amps all your stats to Thor level( Jane Foster)

Oh my god dude. MCU THOR DOES NOT GAIN 616 THOR'S STATS IN THIS BATTLE.

first, calm down and second yes he does according to 616 canon, Mjolnir grants its wilder powers of Thor, that is how it works, i did not make that up, Odin did, and that is what OP said, but we can ask him to clarify