MCU Thor speed tier

Not this bullshit again. We get it, you're angry and hate Thor.

Where is the "sub-arrow speed" option?

High complex boundless

Supersonic

Supersonic+ at least.

@thespartanb345t: You mean subsonic ? Jumped out the window maybe. Also where are below-human, average-human, athletic human, peak human, superhuman speed tiers ? Oh, maybe got snapped by Thanos' IG LMAO

Not surprised that people picked FTL for Thor due to him travelling by Mjolnir. That is equivalent to saying an Air-force lieutenant is supersonic-hypersonic since he was piloting a jet plane and created a Mach cone. Also MCU Thor is not a lightning timer just becoz he can summon lightning from clouds. That doesn't correlate to his reaction time or combat speed, let alone travel speed (he can't even outpace Captain America as shown in Endgame who can traverse at peak-human speeds at most). Unless you wanna say a police officer is supersonic since he uses a Glock 17, my point stands.

Hypersonic. He keeps up with Thanos, who can effortlessly block repulsor beams, and Iron Man, who can react to meteors.

Where is the “barely above peak human” option

Yep. Even Abom moved much faster than confirmed point-blank mach 1 missile( 4,5 times faster) and he is slower than Thor by a good amount

+ Tony also reacted to at least reentry fast meteors

Movement speed Without a hammer? Hmm his best running feat I think is blitzing Hulk in A1 so not that fast

@eredin12: Yeah! To say otherwise, you would have to deny on-screen feats, the script, film statements and director statements.

Co-director Joe Russo explains on the Avengers: Infinity War director’s commentary that Thanos “uses two stones there. He uses the Power Stone to destroy the moon. And then he uses the Space Stone to pull it so quickly to the surface of Titan.”

Right. Muh visuals though!

@eredin12: Lol, DCEU fans say otherwise because it's better than any durability feat in the DCEU.

Yep.

He’s Lucky if he’s even sub arrow

Comparable to Comic counterpart = slow.

@eredin12 said:

@abdulboriy said:

Supersonic+ at least.

Yep. Even Abom moved much faster than confirmed point-blank mach 1 missile( 4,5 times faster) and he is slower than Thor by a good amount

+ Tony also reacted to at least reentry fast meteors

Still a statue to even Wonder woman

@clarkkent10:

1.That is not related to this thread in any way

2.Not even close by feats, but we talked about that yesterday, so not going to bother with that

@clarkkent10: cmon man that has nothing to do with this thread

@clarkkent10: That's irrelevant, and WW isn't statuing Thor lol.

Pretty sure you mentioned the DCEU first in the thread..

Yeah Glad we agree Abomination is only Mach 4.5

Pretty sure she is

Now let's hear the argument "Muh lightning was KM away" reacting to an unfinished lightning and hitting before it fully expands in MHS reaction speeds doesn't matter how you twist.

As you can see the first lightning wasn't even done and she was already swinging from it and she reacts to the other one and hangs from it before the fully expanding that's the light you see at the end which is the fully expansion of the lightning.

@abdulboriy: she sure is

He’s slower than a bullet, but potentially faster than a peak human.

@clarkkent10: Quicksilver is a lot faster than Wonder Woman.

I'm sorry but Mach 4 is Slower than Reacting to Lightning.

Never really understood the whole speed "tier" thing. Thor is a slow combatant by higher tier standards. He fights about as fast as a peak human (or slower) in terms of actual combat speed when he's in melee. He has decent reaction feats like deflecting Chitauri shots and blocking the Destroyer's fire beam, but this doesn't automatically translate into him fighting as fast as those objects (i.e. being able to slice or deflect a bullet doesn't mean you are able to constantly fight and move at bullet speeds in-combat).

@nfactor1995:

Never really understood the whole speed "tier" thing

Not a suprise. DC fans aren't well known for their amazing genius after all.

He fights about as fast as a peak human (or slower) in terms of actual combat speed when he's in melee.

Peak human can move this much faster than a point-blank mach 1 projectile?

Or as fast as Destroyer's hypersonic blasts? And fight at good speed while Cap is the statue?

able to slice or deflect a bullet doesn't mean you are able to constantly fight and move at bullet speeds in-combat

Ofc you can "constantly fight" at the same speed you move your limbs while cutting those things, your limbs don't magically get slower while attacking lol. Thor did not just deflect them, he moved as fast as some of those projectiles while doing so

@eredin12: Sorry, this is off topic, but a certain someone added you and me in a Pm out of his...whatever in his head. I contacted the mods though, it has to stop, not the first time he does this.

@themadtitan6000: Wow I get what your saying but comparing a pilot to a guy with a flying hammer is comparing apples to a bridge.

But I get what your saying and maybe in this instance FTL really stands for faster than lemons 🍋

@morningstar999: Yeah i saw it, mods will deal with it I hope

Quicksilver is mach 1.1+

@eredin12: Quicksilver got shredded by Mach 2.5 bullets he isn't hypersonic at all.

@nwname: Mach 2 sounds reasonable.

@clarkkent10: Because he literally chose to die, to take bullets instead of Hawkye and kid?

Abom is faster than QS?

Well mach 1.16 is his official speed and i don't remember any feats of him traveling faster than that. He has pretty good perception tho

@nwname: Where did you get that match 1,16 number? The first time I ever heard that, any source? His perception speed is his combat/ operational one given that he operated normally in it

We've seen him catch hand gun bullets before which move below the speed of sound. Why didn't he catch this mach 2.5 bullets if he's 2x faster than them?

Movement speed wise yes. Either the Abomination feat is being overrated (Considering even Blonsky danced around the hulk) or MCU producers don't know their actual speed

With scaling from QS and abomination fighting hulk I would say Mach 1.2-2 at most.

@clarkkent10:

We've seen him catch hand gun bullets before which move below the speed of sound. Why didn't he catch this mach 2.5 bullets if he's 2x faster than them?

Actually, there is no proof he caught bullet there irrc, bullets that hit him are too strong for him to catch it anyway, too much KE, he has peak human lifting strength

Movement speed wise yes. Either the Abomination feat is being overrated (Considering even Blonsky danced around the hulk) or MCU producers don't know their actual speed

There is nothing to overrate when we have official speed, as well as proof that they know it, since it comes from filmmakers themselves:

So, QS is a lot above mach 2, in fact, based on this, he is easily mach 20+

Well travel via bifrost summon i agree it is ftl

@eredin12 said:

@nwname: Where did you get that match 1,16 number, the first time I ever heard that, any source? And his perception speed is his combat/ operational one given that he operated normally in it

The wakanda files. It says his highest recorded speed (no idea how shuri recorded it) is 400 m/s.

There is also Whedon saying he is as fast or almost as fast as a bullet. He can perceive things extremely fast but he cant move his body that fast in comparison. He died to bullets after all

@eredin12 said:

@clarkkent10:

We've seen him catch hand gun bullets before which move below the speed of sound. Why didn't he catch this mach 2.5 bullets if he's 2x faster than them?

Actually, there is no proof he caught bullet there irrc, bullets that hit him are too strong for him to catch it anyway, too much KE, he has peak human lifting strength

Movement speed wise yes. Either the Abomination feat is being overrated (Considering even Blonsky danced around the hulk) or MCU producers don't know their actual speed

There is nothing to overrate when we have official speed, as well as proof that they know it, since it comes from filmmakers themselves:

So, QS is a lot above mach 2, in fact, based on this, he is easily mach 20+

So Ultron Bots are Peak Human aswell? Since he was Destroying them with no problem. Actually makes sense considering even Cap defeated a lot of them and even damaged Ultron.

Mach 20 who got shredded by Mach 2.5 Bullets and no going of by that wonder woman Would be Mach 30+ in the snyder cut. Also that's a Cheetah which moves at 300 Meters per second. At most you could argue that makes him 5x faster.

@nwname:

The wakanda files. It says his highest recorded speed (no idea how shuri recorded it) is 400 m/s.

That was before the movie, that is when he was that fast but they also note that he " grows closer to light speed by the day"

A lot of time has passed since this recording was made, meaning in the movie itself he was a lot faster than he was when this was said, making any attempted use of this for movie QS, faulty

There is also Whedon saying he is as fast or almost as fast as a bullet. He can perceive things extremely fast but he cant move his body that fast in comparison. He died to bullets after all

Not true since we see him operate/ move his body normally while perceiving a time( note how his head and eyes turn down at normal speed etc) that fast, showing us that is his operational level, not just perception level

He died to bullet since he chose to, to protect them. To act as the meat shield. As for Whedon, problem is that we don't know which bullet, rail gun can be considered a bullet, it could also be one Tony Stark made as well, we know for fact his RPGs in the verse are faster than any in RL, hence why using feats shown in the movie is the best way to judge his speed

@clarkkent10:

So Ultron Bots are Peak Human aswell? Since he was Destroying them with no problem.

that is striking thanks to speed amped momentum, but his lifting is very weak and that is what he would have to use to stop such strong bullets

Mach 20 who got shredded by Mach 2.5 Bullets

Since he chose to take them, to act as a meat shield, not because of lack of speed on his part