MCU Thor (IW) vs DCEU Superman (JL)

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#151 Edited by deactivated-5c531e53b02be (3640 posts) - - Show Bio

@plotweapon16255: for a nanosecond.

Standing in a star for long periods of time>>>Nuke in both heat and radation.

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#152 Posted by MOWJACK (1301 posts) - - Show Bio

The nuke achieves that kind of radiation for only a nanosecond not enough to feel,its average temperature is way lower than that even then Superman was still knocked out by it.

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#153 Edited by phillip33 (4584 posts) - - Show Bio

@temporal_shift: at least tell me this, did hulk get any feats that past incarnations couldn’t accomplish?

Just need a yes/no nothing more.

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#154 Posted by macleen (3705 posts) - - Show Bio

Ok ai clicked on some of the spoilers, Thor tanked moon busting hits. This seems ridiculous and I'll admit it lol, if what I'm reading is true he should be able to give his comic counterpart somewhat of a fight

Hey can you link me

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#155 Posted by deactivated-5c531e53b02be (3640 posts) - - Show Bio
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#156 Edited by MarvelandDCfan24 (7967 posts) - - Show Bio

How are you guys debating this when none of you have seen the movie... really ridiculous

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#157 Posted by phillip33 (4584 posts) - - Show Bio
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#158 Posted by blackpantherisb (7574 posts) - - Show Bio

Everyone says that a Nuke is only at 100000000 degrees for a nanosecond, but I’ve never seen any proof of that.

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#159 Posted by deactivated-5c531e53b02be (3640 posts) - - Show Bio

@marvelanddcfan24: there's a detailed spoiler on Reddit that's basically a book of the movie which is confirmed by people who have seen it.

And Thanos is a monster. So is Thor.

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#160 Edited by plotweapon16255 (7912 posts) - - Show Bio

@temporal_shift said:

@plotweapon16255: for a nanosecond.

But BVS nuke temperature didn't vanish instantly.

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It lasted more then 30 seconds.

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Standing in a star for long periods of time>>>Nuke in both heat and radation.

I haven't seen the movie but if it's a dying star like it was said in Ragnarok then the temperature of the core wouldn't be that hot it would be the opposite.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/dying-star-coldest-place-weve-found-universe-180953695/

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#161 Posted by MarvelandDCfan24 (7967 posts) - - Show Bio

@temporal_shift: yeah it said Thors axe has the power of the bifrost and heimdall sends Hulk to earth...

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#162 Posted by deactivated-5c531e53b02be (3640 posts) - - Show Bio

@plotweapon16255: yes but the peak temp did not.

It only stays that hot for an instant, standing in a star is like tanking nukes on rapid fire, way more radation and a constant amount of heat unlike a Nuke whick peaks and downgrades.

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#163 Posted by deactivated-5c531e53b02be (3640 posts) - - Show Bio
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#164 Posted by deactivated-5c531e53b02be (3640 posts) - - Show Bio
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#165 Posted by DrPepperMan (6288 posts) - - Show Bio

I'll wait for the movie but until then I'll say Clark still wins, I don't trust spoilers like THAT

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#166 Posted by blackpantherisb (7574 posts) - - Show Bio

@temporal_shift: Well according to this site the first wave of the most intense heat last 1/10th of a second: http://www.atomicarchive.com/Effects/effects7.shtml

And frankly whilst weakened tanking heat 7 times more powerful than the heat of the core of a Star is above tanking the heat of a core of a Star for a minute and then passing out.

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#167 Edited by deactivated-5c531e53b02be (3640 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackpantherisb:

Tanking the heat for a 1/10th a second is nothing to what Thor did which is more than a minute and it didn't turn him into a zombie.

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#168 Posted by blackpantherisb (7574 posts) - - Show Bio

@temporal_shift: One tenth and Superman was heavily weakened. Times matters to an extent, but the temperature matters much much more.

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#169 Edited by deactivated-5c531e53b02be (3640 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackpantherisb: No it doesn't you as a mere human with any kind of sickness can still your finger into fire for 1/10 a second no problem. Now stick your hand into a bowl of boiling water for a couple a minutes.

And no Clark wasn't heavily weakend, and Stars also contain more radation than nukes. There's a reason why 1 Nuke won't life wipe Earth but the core of a star would.

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#170 Posted by plotweapon16255 (7912 posts) - - Show Bio

@plotweapon16255: yes but the peak temp did not.

But it's way hotter.

It only stays that hot for an instant, standing in a star is like tanking nukes on rapid fire, way more radation and a constant amount of heat unlike a Nuke whick peaks and downgrades.

Nuke temperature>> average star temperature>>>> DYING Star.

Radiation is no where near nuke level which is about 5000 Rad.

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#172 Posted by deactivated-5c531e53b02be (3640 posts) - - Show Bio

@plotweapon16255: No the radation in a star is much higher what part of constant don't you understand?

This is basic level of common Sense. Constant heat> burst of heat Constant rads > burst of rads.

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#173 Posted by deactivated-5c531e53b02be (3640 posts) - - Show Bio

@jayc1324:

https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelStudiosSpoilers/comments/8ei6tq/infinity_war_full_spoilers_via_uwesker6/

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#174 Posted by Ianosm (187 posts) - - Show Bio

@DammeFavour said:

I think we should wait till we all see the movie. Remember we used to have hela one shotting all the kryptonians and kurse stomping superman

Yeah I completely agree, pointless trying to debate for feats from a film you haven't seen yet. I wish this guy below had thought of that too.............

From this discussion thread: https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/dceu-superman-post-justice-league-vs-the-avengers--1909847/

Somebody arguing for DCEU char feats off spoilers when they hadn't seen the film. If only they had followed your advice....

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@DammeFavour said:

@rampagethefirst: naa.....the whole purpose of this thread is using established feats which is why no one mentioned freeze breath before jl showcased it

Have you seen the film?

#39 Edited by DammeFavour (6742 posts) - 5 months, 9 days ago - Show Bio

@the_fallen_lord: not yet, seen spoilers though

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#175 Posted by plotweapon16255 (7912 posts) - - Show Bio

@plotweapon16255: No the radation in a star is much higher what part of constant don't you understand?

Definitely not in a dying star.

This is basic level of common Sense. Constant heat> burst of heat Constant rads > burst of rads.

This doesn't apply for dying star.

Which runs on fumes.

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#176 Posted by DammeFavour (8602 posts) - - Show Bio

@ianosm: almost like you didn't read the actual argument. Taking stuff out of context is your thing heh?

See how I didn't actually use feats from the spoiler and stuck to his already established ones?

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#177 Posted by deactivated-5c531e53b02be (3640 posts) - - Show Bio

@plotweapon16255: dying stars are still hot, and in the movie it's still hot. And it's still vastly more intense than a Nuke.

Drop a dying star on Earth and what happens? A shit ton more than a Nuke going off.

Not to mention the force inside the star he had to tank.

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#178 Posted by NWName (5236 posts) - - Show Bio

@plotweapon16255: Their cores are still 10+ Million K iirc. And pressure is 100 Billion tons per m^2. Surviving in a stars core is like surviving 10000s of nukes per second + getting crushed by the weight of one of the largest mountains on earth.

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#180 Posted by Aquatic_Pianist (696 posts) - - Show Bio

Honestly, the battle forums and threads like this are one of the biggest reasons I’m so looking forward to Infinity War. I guess I’m like Joker, cuz I just want to watch the site burn.

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#181 Edited by plotweapon16255 (7912 posts) - - Show Bio

@temporal_shift said:

@plotweapon16255: dying stars are still hot,

Scientist disagrees.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/dying-star-coldest-place-weve-found-universe-180953695/

and in the movie it's still hot.

How hot??

Can u quantify it?

And it's still vastly more intense than a Nuke.

Except it.

Drop a dying star on Earth and what happens? A shit ton more than a Nuke going off.

That's Coz of earth's mass.

If u had any idea about Newton's Law of Universal Gravitation u wouldn't use this here.

Not to mention the force inside the star he had to tank.

But he is inside a chamber where he was only exposed to a fraction of core.

& Nothing is crushing him here to say the pressure exist.

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@plotweapon16255: Their cores are still 10+ Million K iirc.

Not for dying star.

And pressure is 100 Billion tons per m^2. Surviving in a stars core is like surviving 10000s of nukes per second + getting crushed by the weight of one of the largest mountains on earth.

in trailer Thor was inside the chamber when he forged the weapon.

Where he was just exposed to a fraction of core.

& Nothing is crushing him here to say the pressure exist.

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#183 Posted by Amcu (17363 posts) - - Show Bio

@jayc1324 said:
@amcu said:

Russo Force Thor. There. I'm the first that said it.

More like "slightly closer to comic Thor Thor" lol

Yeah I can't wait to see it in the theater.

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#184 Edited by deactivated-5c531e53b02be (3640 posts) - - Show Bio

@plotweapon16255: you know thats not a credited source right? And it's bogus lmao you DCEU fans are reaching now.

And that chamber he had to force open inside a star which is massively more massive than a planet.

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#185 Posted by Slade-Prime (1764 posts) - - Show Bio

@worldofthunder said:

How powerful is Thor in IW?

  • MFTL+ combat speed, he's capable of preforming luntillions of IMPs in less than a picosecond w/lowball. Rumor has it, he humiliated Pre-52 Wally West amped with the speed force.
  • Teleportation.
  • Invisibility.
  • Portal and Force-field creation.
  • Draining/Life force absorption (on an immeasurable level).
  • Can BFR his opponents to the microverse.
  • Ability to manipulate his size at will (he also can shrink his enemies down to the size of the smallest atom that exists).
  • Multi-Planetary strength at bare minimum.
  • Matter/Molecular manipulation (universal scale).
  • Telepathy (multi-dimensional range w/lowball).
  • Quantum/cosmic/Ki energy blasts.
  • Quantum manipulation or all kinds of energy manipulation.
  • Gravity manipulation.
  • Probability manipulation.
  • Luck manipulation.
  • Possibility manipulation.
  • Emotions manipulation.
  • Magnetism manipulation.
  • Insane level of healing factor (operates on a much higher level than 616 Sentry's), even if you erase him from history and all planes of reality, he'd still come back in less than a picosecond.
  • Supernova level lighting.
  • Multi-Solar Systems striking force.
  • His durability exceeds his striking force.
  • Immune to any kind of hax including reality warping.

He'd still lose to DCEU Superman, tbh.

WAIT.....multi solar system striking force? Make that Multi Galactic

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#186 Posted by deactivated-5c8fd6cb3e4f4 (18365 posts) - - Show Bio

@macleen said:
@_kingoflatveria said:

Ok ai clicked on some of the spoilers, Thor tanked moon busting hits. This seems ridiculous and I'll admit it lol, if what I'm reading is true he should be able to give his comic counterpart somewhat of a fight

Hey can you link me

link you what, I'm talking about the spoiler blocks in this thread lol.

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#187 Edited by EjorpSnruteR (916 posts) - - Show Bio

If the core of a sun is true, do people not realize that's a solid island level feat at the least?

Keep pandering off overrated "heat" (you'd think heat was hax or something), but gigatons is far past any nuke in existence.

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#188 Posted by dcuwins (348 posts) - - Show Bio

@nwgzsjuwhm96y2:

KRYPTONIANS HAVE THE DURABILITY TO SURVIVE BLACK HOLES.

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PG 283.

FIORA VANISHED FROM THE UNIVERSE,SUCKED BACK INTO THE ZONE FOR AN ETERNITY. official canon mos novel.

SUPERMAN STOMPS EASILY.

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#189 Posted by deactivated-5c8fd6cb3e4f4 (18365 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman can survive Black Holes, he solos 616 Thor and his MCU Counterpart

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#190 Posted by EjorpSnruteR (916 posts) - - Show Bio

Loki did too.

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#191 Posted by KanyeCosby (7452 posts) - - Show Bio

This has pretty much devolved into a troll thread.

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#192 Edited by ThEBeStOfTheBeST (12188 posts) - - Show Bio

This went from Thor surviving the heat of a Star to the power of a Star and then to tanking effing moon busting level attacks. Boi.. the power levels are rising as we write, the tension is getting more thicker and hotter, this thread is 'bout to blow up to smithereens.. the hype has officially reached its peak!

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#193 Edited by jagernutt (17805 posts) - - Show Bio

Current MCU Thor would give hell to pretty much any DCAU league member "excluding" Superman. At this point Superman still has him beat.

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#194 Posted by deactivated-5c8fd6cb3e4f4 (18365 posts) - - Show Bio

This went from Thor surviving the heat of a Star to the power of a Star and then to tanking effing moon busting level attacks. Boi.. the power levels are rising as we write, the tension is getting more thicker and hotter, this thread is 'bout to blow up to smithereens.. the hype has officially reached its peak!

LMAO

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#195 Posted by deactivated-5b728068f211c (7068 posts) - - Show Bio

WW still smiles and decapitates Thor.

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#196 Edited by ThEBeStOfTheBeST (12188 posts) - - Show Bio

@_kingoflatveria: And the movie hasn't even come out yet and look at the extreme hype it's getting. I can only imagine what it'd be like on the battle forums after it has been released. This is giving me goosebumps lul

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#197 Edited by destinyman75 (15748 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor can win so can Clark depends on the scenario not debatable

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#198 Posted by deactivated-5b728068f211c (7068 posts) - - Show Bio

Im about to get a heart attack with all this hype, lul.

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#199 Posted by deactivated-5b17f1b84ea5f (1752 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman beats both with prep time don't @ me

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#200 Posted by deactivated-5c8fd6cb3e4f4 (18365 posts) - - Show Bio