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#101 Posted by DammeFavour (8042 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheGrat1: right? That's what I've been saying for a long time now, the superman that fought post nuke doomsday was only charged for a couple of minutes and should be able to scale to scale to other kryptonians since they share similar physiologies.

Plus that superman had no problems with doomsday's electricity

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#102 Posted by Rebake (3800 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor, he's not as slow as people make him out to be either, has the skill edge, heat vision will do nothing, lightning can do some damage, and Stormbreaker will do massive damage.

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#103 Posted by Bayman007 (969 posts) - - Show Bio

Sill Zod. Thor is no match for Superman, so he will loose here.

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#104 Posted by ourmanuel (8366 posts) - - Show Bio

Star level Thor, with his Star level durability and ultimate cloak of sparks⚡️, solos all of live action.

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#105 Posted by xZone (9666 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor still stomps

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#106 Posted by TonyMartial (7953 posts) - - Show Bio

Could go either way

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#107 Posted by plotweapon16255 (7050 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor dies for sure.

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#108 Posted by CyberpunkCop (2059 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor

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#109 Posted by xZone (9666 posts) - - Show Bio

Holy.. I just realized Zod isn’t adapted here... Good lord Thor one shots

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#110 Posted by TheGrat1 (413 posts) - - Show Bio

@xzone:

OP says both at full power.

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#112 Posted by macleen (3002 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheGrat1: hats off to you bro. You dismantled their feats. People look at the size of Thor's lightning, the time he takes and the size of the objects he destroys without taking into account the durability of the things he destroys. The leviathan is best tank level since ironman blew it into pieces with a tank buster, a sensory overloaded kryptonian didn't get as much as a scratch from a tank buster.

Also scaling kryptonians is easy and legit simply because they literally have the same powers. The only argument that could be made to differentiate them is SM's experience and longer energy soak. But the latter was made invalid in bvs when a completely drained SM was back at full power without all those years he lost.

Thor's best energy attacks are infused with a weapon and pretty much all of them require an immobile target that allows him to charge his attacks to be effective.

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#113 Posted by LeonardSnart (2544 posts) - - Show Bio

@macleen: Ironman blew it into pieces from the inside, it was no selling his external attacks

Zod isn't a lightning timer

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#114 Edited by Essem (228 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor is too often portrayed very "human-like" in hand to hand. His fight vs Hela in the Palace. I see very little superhuman here let alone Kryptonian level. Or against Loki etc. I know its choreography and special effects, but all that counts into how we see them fight on screen. Except for lightning and extraordinary weapons. Hes very much lower than Zod imo.

Hard to say who takes it in an all out battle if Thor has Stormbreaker. 50/50.

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#115 Posted by macleen (3002 posts) - - Show Bio

@leonardsnart: IM hit it from the side, not inside, and it blew everything including the armor, cut the beasts head

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#116 Posted by RanaProGamer (1577 posts) - - Show Bio

Round 1: Thor

Round 2: Thor

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#117 Posted by ourmanuel (8366 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor solos DCEU with xzone-force

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#118 Posted by Lan_Fan (12666 posts) - - Show Bio

Zod blitzes Thor to death in round one.

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#119 Edited by DammeFavour (8042 posts) - - Show Bio

So...can we make xzone force Thor a thing?

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#120 Posted by The_Red_Devil (4039 posts) - - Show Bio

@lan_fan said:

Zod blitzes Thor to death in round one.

Zod gets turned into roasted ham.

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#121 Posted by Buckwheat (2116 posts) - - Show Bio

Round 1: full force of a star stomps

Round 2: full force of a star stomps in a match that lasts five seconds extra

Why would Round 2 take longer than 1? With full speed (on Round 1) Zod should have the ability to blitz Thor without much trouble.

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#122 Posted by Buckwheat (2116 posts) - - Show Bio
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Thor. Zod's speed advantage doesn't offset the fact that Thor has notable to massive advantages in every other category.

Speed equalized is a mismatch.

I think Thor's main advantage is his weapon, that could possibly cut Zod and has the ability to chase and hit him.

Strength I would argue in Zod's favor. Energy projection is probably Thor's.

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#123 Posted by Lan_Fan (12666 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_red_devil: No, Thor can't tag him. Lightning cloak would do nothing.

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#124 Posted by The_Red_Devil (4039 posts) - - Show Bio

@lan_fan said:

@the_red_devil: No, Thor can't tag him. Lightning cloak would do nothing.

Zod was barely at as fast as Superman and Superman was dropping way more punches than he did and they didn't even go supersonic (like there was no sonic-boom) and Thor has atleast supersonic reaction speed (@xzone speed respect thread just shows it).

Even if he is supersonic Thor can react to him and hasn't shown anything to suggest he is close to Superman's flight speed.

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#125 Posted by LeonardSnart (2544 posts) - - Show Bio

@macleen: you must have watched a different movie

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#126 Edited by Lan_Fan (12666 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_red_devil: Lmao, when Zod blitzed Superman to orbit in less than 3 seconds, there was no sonic boom either. Zod's bullrush speed is around mach 500. Thor's mach 2 reaction speed isn't going to do much here.

Plus, their sonic booms were destroying buildings around them.

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#127 Posted by The_Red_Devil (4039 posts) - - Show Bio

@lan_fan: Mach 500 without sonic boom , Synder got 0 brains , even Ironman made a sonic boom when going supersonic.

IDK if that is really Mach 500.

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#129 Edited by Lan_Fan (12666 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_red_devil: Well, in fiction people don't create sonic boom every time they move above the speed of sound, at least not all the time. I mean, DCEU kryptonians have created sonic booms in combat before, but the movie doesn't really have to show it every time.

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#130 Posted by The_Red_Devil (4039 posts) - - Show Bio

@lan_fan said:

@the_red_devil: Well, in fiction people don't create sonic boom every time they move above the speed of sound, at least not all the time. I mean, DCEU kryptonians have created sonic booms in combat before, but the movie doesn't really have to show it every time.

Maybe , but still he gets fried or cut like chicken.

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#131 Posted by LeonardSnart (2544 posts) - - Show Bio

@lan_fan: if the movie has made a point to show it then must do it consistently

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#132 Posted by ourmanuel (8366 posts) - - Show Bio

So...can we make xzone force Thor a thing?

I already did in my post above yours.

Thor solos DCEU with xzone-force

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#133 Edited by Lan_Fan (12666 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_red_devil said:
@lan_fan said:

@the_red_devil: Well, in fiction people don't create sonic boom every time they move above the speed of sound, at least not all the time. I mean, DCEU kryptonians have created sonic booms in combat before, but the movie doesn't really have to show it every time.

Maybe , but still he gets fried or cut like chicken.

Nah.

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@lan_fan: if the movie has made a point to show it then must do it consistently

Well, not really. Otherwise I can make the same point about Thor getting tagged by slow characters like Kurse and Ultron. Why are they slow? Because they didn't create sonic boom like Malekith's projectiles did... Neither did Hela's projectiles, btw.

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#134 Posted by RuthlessKiller (975 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor destroys zod here.

Thor solos DCEU with xzone-force

Don't be a coward. Quote those you intend to insult.

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#135 Edited by LeonardSnart (2544 posts) - - Show Bio

@lan_fan: what does Kurse, ultron and Hela have to do with sonic booms? Are you saying they're super sonic?

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#136 Posted by Lan_Fan (12666 posts) - - Show Bio

@ruthlesskiller: Lol, it's an inside joke from Off-Topic forum. They're buddies (not really, but they're certainly not enemies), even if they disagree on a lot of things.

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#137 Posted by Lan_Fan (12666 posts) - - Show Bio

@leonardsnart: No, but they could easily tag Thor who seemingly has "supersonic reaction speed", which is the thing I was arguing against The_Red_Devil. Hela's projectiles are evidently very fast by feats, btw.

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#138 Posted by ourmanuel (8366 posts) - - Show Bio

@ruthlesskiller: I’ve tagged him numerous times to let him know what I think about ✨⭐️🌟💫Level Thor and his supposed speed/reaction feats.

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#139 Posted by LeonardSnart (2544 posts) - - Show Bio

@lan_fan: Mcu have never showed sonic booms for reactions, I don't see how that translates to DCEU when they specifically show sonic booms to display a characters speed

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#140 Edited by Lan_Fan (12666 posts) - - Show Bio

@leonardsnart: Well, they have. Thor reacted to Malekith's projectiles (created sonic boom) after it was fired. I don't see the point of showing sonic boom every time they move tbh, that'd be pretty silly.

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#141 Posted by LeonardSnart (2544 posts) - - Show Bio

@lan_fan: when was this? The last fight? I guess Thor has super sonic reactions now

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#142 Posted by RuthlessKiller (975 posts) - - Show Bio

@lan_fan: oh.

@ruthlesskiller: I’ve tagged him numerous times to let him know what I think about ✨⭐️🌟💫Level Thor and his supposed speed/reaction feats.

My bad. Thor isn't star level though. His speed and reaction feats don't matter as long as he has his lightning cloak

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#143 Posted by Lan_Fan (12666 posts) - - Show Bio

@leonardsnart: Is that really new to you? Still, he wouldn't be if we're only purely relying on sonic boom to determine speed.

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#144 Posted by LeonardSnart (2544 posts) - - Show Bio

@lan_fan: yes, it is

You just said he reacted to something that created a sonic boom? How is that not a super sonic reaction?

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#145 Posted by xZone (9666 posts) - - Show Bio

@lan_fan: Dude, Zod is not consistently Mach 500 and you know that

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#146 Posted by ourmanuel (8366 posts) - - Show Bio

Was wondering where he was.

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#148 Posted by Lan_Fan (12666 posts) - - Show Bio

@leonardsnart: Because he's been tagged easily by things that didn't create sonic boom as well. That's silly, don't you think?

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#149 Posted by Lan_Fan (12666 posts) - - Show Bio

@xzone: He's as fast as Superman :)

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#150 Posted by xZone (9666 posts) - - Show Bio

@lan_fan: You know for a fact you can’t prove that. Also, Superman isn’t even mach 500 lmao

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