nam ek would win in a shot put contest yes. But he has no striking feat that makes him better than hulk nor does he have the durability feats to survive many of thanos punches
He can handle Thanos's strength pretty well. Thanos is more skilled than Nam-Ek though but presence of Faora as a very skilled, fast and powerful distraction, negates that advantages
she doesn't have the damage output to harm him
. She packs enough punch to hurt Thanos considering she basically dominated Clark initially with superior skill and threw him like a mile away through multiple buildings, denting a vault which are normally very durable.
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She also carries a Kryptonian dagger with her which she doesn't hesitate to use and will come in handy in this fight.
Thanos wins. Can tank what they can throw at him and can probably break their mask off in one or 2 hits if we're being honest and then that just leads to a one shot KO.
The duo can win, but it depends. Thanos can’t beat Namek while Faora is attacking him, but if Thanos can manage to attack Faora and put her out of the battle for longer than 20 to 30 seconds, he can beat down Namek. The problem is doing that while Namek is attacking him.
Ultimately, the duo win if they don’t fight stupidly. Thanos cannot put one down while the other is harassing him, and he can’t tank their attacks in the rapid succession they’d be throwing them. But if they let Thanos divide and conquer, they don’t stand a chance of beating him 1v1. Namek can tank and Faora can evade, but they can’t fulfill each other’s roles without each other. But, naturally, it is hard to divide and conquer when you are the slowest person in the battle.
Swap one of the with adapted Zod, then you've a fight.
Thanos easily rips off Nano tech Iron Man's helmet which is durable enough to resist mortar cannons, and any high calibre bullets. As well as EG Thor's Mjolnir strike on his head didn't shatter Nano tech Ironman's helmet. Ironman is durable enough to resist a direct meteorite crash when Thanos throw a moon at him, and Thanos still rips his helmet with ease.
This simply ends with one of them gets KOed due to losing their mask, and Thanos stomps the other in one-on-one.
Do we watch the same movies? Thanos had trouble with worthy Cap in cqc. Now he is going to "stomp" 2 people that are stronger and faster than not only worthy Cap but Thanos himself.
Strength:
No MCU Iron Man suit can replicate this.
Faora and Nam are stronger and more explosive than IM yet a single punch from him could make Thanos bleed. Literally every haymaker they land is going to seriously damage him. They have already ko'd someone with durability superior to his.
Faora could potentially solo with her speed. I know people don't want to talk about it but speed kills. Thanos is stronger and more durable but I don't see him one shotting. With Nam-ek it guarantees the win.
@jashro44: I would agree with that if Thanos wasn't fast enough to react at super-sonic speed, but he can. What makes Thanos special and conquerer of the universe is his super-human reflexes.
He is easily on par with the likes of Spider-man who is a bullet-timer.
Also Faora isn't that fast, tagged by a fodder soldier before.
Do we watch the same movies? Thanos had trouble with worthy Cap in cqc. Now he is going to "stomp" 2 people that are stronger and faster than not only worthy Cap but Thanos himself.
Durability:
No MCU Iron Man suit can replicate this:
Faora and Nam are stronger and more explosive than IM yet a single punch from him could make Thanos bleed. Literally every haymaker they land is going to seriously damage him. They have already ko'd someone with durability superior to his.
@jashro44: I would agree with that if Thanos wasn't fast enough to react at super-sonic speed, but he can. What makes Thanos special and conquerer of the universe is his super-human reflexes.
He is easily on par with the likes of Spider-man who is a bullet-timer.
I haven't seen far from home but my understanding is spider-man got better with his spider-sense in that movie so we can't really scale thanos to far from home feats. Also I don't think there is enough evidence to say Thanos is on par with spider-man. Because there one interaction Peter landed more hits on Thanos (granted he was using stranges portals).
As for Thanos being a universal conqueror with his reflexes, he is skilled but I don't see any proof he has straight up super human reflexes. He certainly doesn't have anything like this:
This isn't reaction speed, but actual combat speed. Faora is blitzing soldiers at speeds Thanos cannot move at, and she is also blocking and countering superman with her skill and speed. She even created a shockwave with the last punch which according to Snyder is meant to show she can move at super sonic speeds. Thanos might have super sonic reactions, but the problem here is Faora actually fights at super sonic speeds rather than moving at those speeds for brief moments in a knee jerk type motion. If Thanos is about to tag her, she can just block the punch and parry it like she did to superman. And Faora is a lot stronger than the people Thanos fought on titan.
None of the worlds that we know of had warriors like Faora, with her level of speed. Also its not like Thanos was conquering whole worlds bare-handed. He's fought in many battles, but he has done so alongside his armies of chitarui and outriders.
This is not even on par with getting hit by a frigging meteor and resists its impact.
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Ironman is more durable.
Unless you believe Supes can hit as hard as a meteor crash, and his heat vision is equal to this blast;
Ironman's armor resisted to this while Faora's hand burned from Supes' heat vision.
Does Thanos hit as hard as a meteor? Because he was breaking Iron Man's suit with ease. The punches @ 4:30 in your video were not even driving Stark into the ground but were breaking his armor. Also, let us not act as though Stark was not incapacitated by this. He was out long enough for Thanos and Strange to have a good 1-on-1 and when we see him again he is bleeding. So he was at least injured and most likely knocked out by the impact.
Regardless, you actually inspired me to do some math.
Using this website I calculated the kinetic energy values for the meteor and Kal-El.
Kal-EL is canonically 215 pounds. He flew halfway around the world in Man of Steel in 65 seconds. This gives him an average speed (12,450 miles divided by .0180555556 hours) of 689,566.15384615 miles per hour ( Mach 915). Bear in mind that this is a lowball. It only takes his average speed into account, not his peak. It ignores the time it would take him speed up, slow down on final approach or recover from destroying the world engine. The timer starts as soon as the camera cuts away from him. It also assumes he flew at sea level (just based on his approach to the scout ship we know this is not true) the entire way and did not gain altitude to avoid obstacles or fly in anything but a perfectly straight line.
Plugging those values into the calculator we get a kinetic energy of 3,417,570,390,772 ft/lbs.
Kal-El has used flying into his enemies with his fists extended as an attack so he can indeed indeed use it as an attack.
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For the rock I assumed it was a perfect sphere with a radius of 100 feet and the density of basalt, a common type of rock that is also present on our moon.
Volume of sphere: 4188790 cubic feet. Density of Basalt: 187 pounds per cubic foot. Final mass : 783,303,730 pounds (3,916,518.65 tons). Speed: Low end: 300 mph. High end: 500 mph.
Low end kinetic calculation: 2,356,675,782,689 foot/lbs.
High end kinetic calculation: 6,546,321,618,581 foot/lbs.
This is the best I can do with the visuals presented. We never see Iron Man in relation to the entire rock so I had to scale it off of the broken Q ship in the background and it looks about 1/3 that height. The rock never underwent re-entry it was sucked into a portal. 300-500 mph seems reasonable based on how quickly it moved in relation to everything else.
Conclusion: On the low end Kal can hit harder than that meteor and on the high end he is still in the ball park. He is far beyond Thanos who was treating IM like a nuisance.
Now, let's see an IM suit withstand a nuke or something hotter than 3,000 degrees celcius. :)
FYI: I was talking about the throw. No suit Stark has ever created could throw Kal a quarter-mile away, let alone at that trajectory, and still have enough kinetic energy to do irreparable damage to a bank vault door. None of his suits could jump that distance either.
Faora's durability is barely relevant to me. Thanos is not laying a finger on her unless she allows it.
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Based on the performance of his other suits, heat vision would melt him quickly. Faora's hand was not burned. The heat vision did not even penetrate her suit. She cried out because it hurt/shocked her. Pain=/=injury.
She has already damaged material that no-sold a re-entry crash landing. So has Kal-El.
Getting through IM's suit would not be a problem. Drawing blood from Thanos would not be a problem.
@TheGrat1: way to downplay worthy cap. He was as powerful as pre -ragnarork thor.
Who was strong enough to do this
And thanos not only fought someone who could do this(worthy cap) but someone who was stronger than him(endgame thor) plus iron man.
1. Thor could only do that to Sokovia with prep. Cap did not have the time to charge an attack like that nor did he have a giant vibranium spire to hit. Vibranium seems to amp Thor's strikes. In the forest in Avengers hitting Cap's shield knocked Thor back and flattened some trees. In the Dark World he did the same thing to the ground and it was not nearly as impressive. Early in Age of Ultron he used Cap's shield to destroy some Hydra soldiers. The impact on the shield could not make Cap move an inch but the shock wave obliterated a tank.
Conclusion: The output of Thor's attack was amped by the spire and he can not do that whenever he pleases.
2. Thanos never fought Mjolnir wielding Cap, Thor and Iron Man at the same time. The closest he ever came to that was when Cap jumped on his back and tried to pull Stormbreaker to his throat. That lasted about 4 seconds.
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I am not downplaying anything. Cap made Thanos work for it in hand to hand. We know from CIvil War that Cap punches at 74 miles per hour. The punches from the kryptonians would be coming in at a bare minimum of 756 mph (the speed of sound). 10 times faster. If Cap could briefly overwhelm Thanos then Nam and Faora will knock him out like they did to Kal-El.
@jashro44: I would agree with that if Thanos wasn't fast enough to react at super-sonic speed, but he can. What makes Thanos special and conquerer of the universe is his super-human reflexes.
He is easily on par with the likes of Spider-man who is a bullet-timer.
I haven't seen far from home but my understanding is spider-man got better with his spider-sense in that movie so we can't really scale thanos to far from home feats. Also I don't think there is enough evidence to say Thanos is on par with spider-man. Because there one interaction Peter landed more hits on Thanos (granted he was using stranges portals).
As for Thanos being a universal conqueror with his reflexes, he is skilled but I don't see any proof he has straight up super human reflexes. He certainly doesn't have anything like this:
This isn't reaction speed, but actual combat speed. Faora is blitzing soldiers at speeds Thanos cannot move at, and she is also blocking and countering superman with her skill and speed. She even created a shockwave with the last punch which according to Snyder is meant to show she can move at super sonic speeds. Thanos might have super sonic reactions, but the problem here is Faora actually fights at super sonic speeds rather than moving at those speeds for brief moments in a knee jerk type motion. If Thanos is about to tag her, she can just block the punch and parry it like she did to superman. And Faora is a lot stronger than the people Thanos fought on titan.
None of the worlds that we know of had warriors like Faora, with her level of speed. Also its not like Thanos was conquering whole worlds bare-handed. He's fought in many battles, but he has done so alongside his armies of chitarui and outriders.
Thanos was actually focused on Dr.Strange's cloak in the first two hits of Spider-man, and even then Spidey was using Strange's magic portals to gain advantage against Thanos. Once Thanos decided to deal with Spidey instead of Strange's cloak Spidey only hit Thanos once, then Thanos caught Spidey in the second move despite the magic portal advantage.
Even in Avengers IW, Spidey was able to dodge from Peter Quill's dual blaster bolts, And Peter is a skilled sharp shooter.
As for Faora's combat speed, that's really useless against someone as big as Thanos or Hulk, just look at the size of this punch;
Thor is 1.90, he is clearly a very skilled fighter that he can even beat special agents in H2H combat when he had no super powers, and his superior skills are almost irrelevant against Hulk's giant size. Comparing that fight wouldn't be accurate, Supes is regular size, as well as his punches are regular, thus Faora can use her skills against him in close combat, but when it comes to Hulk /Thanos size giants, it literally means nothing. And Thanos is no different than Hulk.
Obviously the extra size doesn't mean extra strength, but it's an advantage, not sure if you follow One Piece but it's like the difference between Luffy's regular punch and his G3 punch, his strength doesn't change when he uses G3, he only increases the size of his punch, but his destructive powers increases a lot in comparison with his regular size punch. And martial art skills means nothing against G3. Faora can use that close combat skills on a regular size person such as Supes, but not against giants like Thanos whose fist as big as her whole body.
The only important thing is reacting to that super-sonic speed and aiming at her body when he hits. Thanos blocked Carol's photon blast, caught flying Stormbreaker in midair which flies at super-sonic speed, deflected Ironman's blasts while dealing with Cap (a bullet timer) and Thor (who also reacted at super-sonic speeds), he also moved faster than Hulk who can catch a super-sonic aircraft while flying and caught an ejection seat while sitting on an aircraft, Thanos also dodged from Strange's lightning blast, caught Spider-man who is a bullet timer. As far as Thanos can react at those speeds and react at the sight of Faora's body image, they are simply toast due to Thanos' superior strength and durability, he can even potentially one-shot due to the ability to ripping of their helmet/mask thing.
They clearly implied that Thanos conquered those alien planets due to his own strength, of course he needs an army for other things, but the main point was ''Thanos was the most powerful being'' in the whole universe.
thanos 0 chance due to the speed factor, plus one of the kyrptonians striking strength is beyond thanos's durability level when combined like this 'run' 'speed' 'punch'. and both of them via feats are clearly skilled enough to perform that combo. thanos gets god-solo stomped (despite the fact that I actually wanted him to win here). (but he only loses if he doesn't have the gems/stones)
This is not even on par with getting hit by a frigging meteor and resists its impact.
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Ironman is more durable.
Unless you believe Supes can hit as hard as a meteor crash, and his heat vision is equal to this blast;
Ironman's armor resisted to this while Faora's hand burned from Supes' heat vision.
Does Thanos hit as hard as a meteor? Because he was breaking Iron Man's suit with ease. The punches @ 4:30 in your video were not even driving Stark into the ground but were breaking his armor. Also, let us not act as though Stark was not incapacitated by this. He was out long enough for Thanos and Strange to have a good 1-on-1 and when we see him again he is bleeding. So he was at least injured and most likely knocked out by the impact.
Thanos ripped off the mind stone from Vision's vibranium skull. And he crushed the Tesseract barehanded, an object that even a Flerken can't damage it after eating it. Thanos snapped Loki's neck with no visual effort and Loki is durable enough to survive a fall from the atmosphere when he fall from the Bifrost and took only a minor damage from the Destroyer armor prototype gun blast.
Thanos also one-shotted Doctor Strange's magical barrier with a kick, and Strange was able to block even some of Dormammu's energy blasts with those magical barriers. Thanos is insanely powerful, and I would say yes, it's possible for him to hit as hard as that, both due to super-strength and size advantage.
Regardless, you actually inspired me to do some math.
Using this website I calculated the kinetic energy values for the meteor and Kal-El.
Kal-EL is canonically 215 pounds. He flew halfway around the world in Man of Steel in 65 seconds. This gives him an average speed (12,450 miles divided by .0180555556 hours) of 689,566.15384615 miles per hour ( Mach 915). Bear in mind that this is a lowball. It only takes his average speed into account, not his peak. It ignores the time it would take him speed up, slow down on final approach or recover from destroying the world engine. The timer starts as soon as the camera cuts away from him. It also assumes he flew at sea level (just based on his approach to the scout ship we know this is not true) the entire way and did not gain altitude to avoid obstacles or fly in anything but a perfectly straight line.
Plugging those values into the calculator we get a kinetic energy of 3,417,570,390,772 ft/lbs.
Kal-El has used flying into his enemies with his fists extended as an attack so he can indeed indeed use it as an attack.
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For the rock I assumed it was a perfect sphere with a radius of 100 feet and the density of basalt, a common type of rock that is also present on our moon.
Volume of sphere: 4188790 cubic feet. Density of Basalt: 187 pounds per cubic foot. Final mass : 783,303,730 pounds (3,916,518.65 tons). Speed: Low end: 300 mph. High end: 500 mph.
Low end kinetic calculation: 2,356,675,782,689 foot/lbs.
High end kinetic calculation: 6,546,321,618,581 foot/lbs.
This is the best I can do with the visuals presented. We never see Iron Man in relation to the entire rock so I had to scale it off of the broken Q ship in the background and it looks about 1/3 that height. The rock never underwent re-entry it was sucked into a portal. 300-500 mph seems reasonable based on how quickly it moved in relation to everything else.
Conclusion: On the low end Kal can hit harder than that meteor and on the high end he is still in the ball park. He is far beyond Thanos who was treating IM like a nuisance.
Now, let's see an IM suit withstand a nuke or something hotter than 3,000 degrees celcius. :)
FYI: I was talking about the throw. No suit Stark has ever created could throw Kal a quarter-mile away, let alone at that trajectory, and still have enough kinetic energy to do irreparable damage to a bank vault door. None of his suits could jump that distance either.
Faora's durability is barely relevant to me. Thanos is not laying a finger on her unless she allows it.
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Based on the performance of his other suits, heat vision would melt him quickly. Faora's hand was not burned. The heat vision did not even penetrate her suit. She cried out because it hurt/shocked her. Pain=/=injury.
She has already damaged material that no-sold a re-entry crash landing. So has Kal-El.
Getting through IM's suit would not be a problem. Drawing blood from Thanos would not be a problem.
That meteor has not only the speed, and it has the melting heat, and it's also gigantic, it has the weight, and it exploded after hitting the ground.
And Nano tech Ironman took this directly.
Shook the ground and created a gigantic shockwave. Not even the best shockwaves that when Supes and Zod clashed at bullrush super-sonic speed can be compared to this.
We've never seen Faora or Nam-ek took something as powerful as that. I would say not even Zod took it. Nano tech Ironman is clearly more durable, he also took Thanos' power stone blast and still continued to fight, no matter how I look it, they are not even close in terms of durability.
Ripping off Nano tech Ironman's helmet means Thanos is far above of the likes of Faora or Nam-ek, it really a one-shot for Thanos.
Very simple question: Can Thanos replicate the damage that rock did with his best punch?
If you are talking about the rock that fell on iron man? No he cant. The rock hits iron man with bigger range of Ares and most of it does not even target Iron man, also there was alot of sand which minimses the impact.
Thanos punch has much lesser area which means his punch could break the armor despite not being anwyhere near the impact level of that boulder.
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