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#1 Posted by CyberpunkCop (2935 posts) - - Show Bio

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the rules

  • Takes place on DCEU earth
  • Power stones only
  • Morals off
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#2 Edited by TonyMartial (8840 posts) - - Show Bio

Ronan solos, how are they supposed to do anything to someone who tanked a moon busting blast and has planet level power?

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#3 Posted by eri123 (355 posts) - - Show Bio

Ronan solos.

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#4 Posted by Subline (7024 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos / Ronan solos.

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#5 Posted by Adriusus (3230 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1 easily.

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#6 Posted by mrmonster (14690 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1

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#7 Posted by Amcu (16250 posts) - - Show Bio

Either Thanos or Ronan solo with the power gems.

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#8 Posted by EmmaFrostXmen (1145 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1 only due to the power stone, if they didn’t have it Team 2 would win.

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#9 Posted by ginman333 (2977 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1 only due to the power stone, if they didn’t have it Team 2 would win.

Did we ever see Thanos w/o a stone? How can we know?

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#10 Posted by EmmaFrostXmen (1145 posts) - - Show Bio

@ginman333: Exactly, thanos without a stone is marginally superior to the hulk. Zod scales to about Superman levels which is way above hulk. And Steppenwolf scales to be better then Wonder Woman And Aquaman which is better than Ronan.

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#11 Posted by GeorgeWBush (11589 posts) - - Show Bio

Steppenwolf doesn’t have any wan to hurt Ronan

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#12 Posted by ginman333 (2977 posts) - - Show Bio

@ginman333: Exactly, thanos without a stone is marginally superior to the hulk. Zod scales to about Superman levels which is way above hulk. And Steppenwolf scales to be better then Wonder Woman And Aquaman which is better than Ronan.

Not sure I saw anything that makes me thing "marginally," but I get what you are saying. No worries friend.

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#13 Posted by plotweapon16255 (7504 posts) - - Show Bio

Zod can solo.

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#14 Posted by Rajjar (1768 posts) - - Show Bio
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#15 Posted by Richubs (3778 posts) - - Show Bio

@rajjar: He has taken heat vision which is more than enough. Power stone blasts throughout Infinity War were not very impressive.

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#16 Posted by plotweapon16255 (7504 posts) - - Show Bio
@rajjar said:
@plotweapon16255 said:

Zod can solo.

No energy durability.

Any feat to say they can use any offensive attack before they get blized?

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#17 Edited by Rajjar (1768 posts) - - Show Bio

@plotweapon16255 said:
@rajjar said:
@plotweapon16255 said:

Zod can solo.

No energy durability.

Any feat to say they can use any offensive attack before they get blized?

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Uh, Power Stone forcefield. Power-Stone AoE. Zod isn't blitzing two at a time.

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#18 Edited by Rajjar (1768 posts) - - Show Bio

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@rajjar: He has taken heat vision which is more than enough. Power stone blasts throughout Infinity War were not very impressive.

Heat vision is comparable with Thor's small lightning bolts at best, based on their ability to melt steel. Not Power Stone attacks that blew up a ship's exterior that tanked a wormhole, nor an energy attack that fried Thor's face, nor an attack that surface busted a moon, nor an attack that when used at its max, is planetary. Sure, the blasts aren't impressive, but they wouldn't tag Zod to begin with - they'd be used against Steppy. As for HV, Thor has energy durability on Clark's level, and Clark only got staggered by DD's heat vision; it didn't actually damage him.

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#19 Edited by plotweapon16255 (7504 posts) - - Show Bio

@rajjar said:
@plotweapon16255 said:
@rajjar said:
@plotweapon16255 said:

Zod can solo.

No energy durability.

Any feat to say they can use any offensive attack before they get blized?

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Uh, Power Stone forcefield. Power-Stone AoE.Zod isn't blitzing two at a time.

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#20 Posted by APEX_pretador (19709 posts) - - Show Bio

Either solos. Thanos solos without stones.

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#21 Posted by Richubs (3778 posts) - - Show Bio

@rajjar: Not really. Heat Vision gives problems to Kryptonians.

Are yu implying small Thor lighting bolts are enough to hurt Kryptonians?

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#22 Posted by Rajjar (1768 posts) - - Show Bio

@rajjar said:
@plotweapon16255 said:
@rajjar said:
@plotweapon16255 said:

Zod can solo.

No energy durability.

Any feat to say they can use any offensive attack before they get blized?

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Uh, Power Stone forcefield. Power-Stone AoE.Zod isn't blitzing two at a time.

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Uh, Power Stone forcefield on Okoye's spear in the battle of Wakanda.

Power Stone AoE's throughout the MCU. Have you even watched GOTG or Infinity War? Lol.

You seem to think Zod can one-shot blitz them. He can't. He isn't a speedster to do so. Feats for Zod?

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#23 Posted by Rajjar (1768 posts) - - Show Bio

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@rajjar: Not really. Heat Vision gives problems to Kryptonians.

Just like how Thor's lightning gave problems to Thanos. Kinetic force is not worth quantifying when there is no visible damage.

Are yu implying small Thor lighting bolts are enough to hurt Kryptonians?

Fodder MoS Kryptonians? Maybe.

Faora and Nam-Ek, no. But his casual sky lightning can, since they have a scarce amount of energy durability feats.

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#24 Posted by plotweapon16255 (7504 posts) - - Show Bio

@rajjar said:
@plotweapon16255 said:
@rajjar said:
@plotweapon16255 said:
@rajjar said:
@plotweapon16255 said:

Zod can solo.

No energy durability.

Any feat to say they can use any offensive attack before they get blized?

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Uh, Power Stone forcefield. Power-Stone AoE.Zod isn't blitzing two at a time.

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Uh, Power Stone forcefield on Okoye's spear in the battle of Wakanda.

NLF.

Power Stone AoE's throughout the MCU. Have you even watched GOTG or Infinity War? Lol.

Featless Gets blized.

You seem to think Zod can one-shot blitz them. He can't. He isn't a speedster to do so.Feats for Zod?

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#25 Posted by Rajjar (1768 posts) - - Show Bio

@rajjar said:
@plotweapon16255 said:
@rajjar said:
@plotweapon16255 said:
@rajjar said:
@plotweapon16255 said:

Zod can solo.

No energy durability.

Any feat to say they can use any offensive attack before they get blized?

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Uh, Power Stone forcefield. Power-Stone AoE.Zod isn't blitzing two at a time.

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Uh, Power Stone forcefield on Okoye's spear in the battle of Wakanda.

NLF.

Power Stone AoE's throughout the MCU. Have you even watched GOTG or Infinity War? Lol.

Featless Gets blized.

You seem to think Zod can one-shot blitz them. He can't. He isn't a speedster to do so.Feats for Zod?

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You think the Power Stone will just deactivate during Zod's bullrush?

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#26 Posted by plotweapon16255 (7504 posts) - - Show Bio

@rajjar said:
@plotweapon16255 said:
@rajjar said:
@plotweapon16255 said:
@rajjar said:
@plotweapon16255 said:
@rajjar said:
@plotweapon16255 said:

Zod can solo.

No energy durability.

Any feat to say they can use any offensive attack before they get blized?

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Uh, Power Stone forcefield. Power-Stone AoE.Zod isn't blitzing two at a time.

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Uh, Power Stone forcefield on Okoye's spear in the battle of Wakanda.

NLF.

Power Stone AoE's throughout the MCU. Have you even watched GOTG or Infinity War? Lol.

Featless Gets blized.

You seem to think Zod can one-shot blitz them. He can't. He isn't a speedster to do so.Feats for Zod?

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You think the Power Stone will just deactivate during Zod's bullrush?

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Feats to say it can work before getting blized?

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#27 Edited by Rajjar (1768 posts) - - Show Bio

@plotweapon16255 said:
@rajjar said:
@plotweapon16255 said:
@rajjar said:
@plotweapon16255 said:
@rajjar said:
@plotweapon16255 said:
@rajjar said:
@plotweapon16255 said:

Zod can solo.

No energy durability.

Any feat to say they can use any offensive attack before they get blized?

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Uh, Power Stone forcefield. Power-Stone AoE.Zod isn't blitzing two at a time.

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Uh, Power Stone forcefield on Okoye's spear in the battle of Wakanda.

NLF.

Power Stone AoE's throughout the MCU. Have you even watched GOTG or Infinity War? Lol.

Featless Gets blized.

You seem to think Zod can one-shot blitz them. He can't. He isn't a speedster to do so.Feats for Zod?

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You think the Power Stone will just deactivate during Zod's bullrush?

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Feats to say it can work before getting blized?

Feats to say blitz is one-shot? Clark didn't get one-shotted.

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#28 Posted by Richubs (3778 posts) - - Show Bio

@rajjar: There is visible pain and discomfort.

Thor's decent lightning strike on Iron Man didn't melt his armor.

Vibranium which probably doesn't have a massive melting point given it was being used for ages in Wakanda wasn't melted by Thor's lightning.

Thor's lightning had never been shown to be as hot as Heat Vision. One of the most powerful lightning blasts Thor had ever made only destroyed a balcony. Didn't even put a cent in the structure it was next to.

Power stone blasts were pathetic in IW and definitely not comparable to Heat Vision which gave Superman visible discomfort.

Even the power blast AOE's were pathetic because Superman had tanked Doomsday's massive AOE which makes anything Thor's lightning or Power Stone has done look chicken shit by comparison (barring the moon feat)

And that was pure energy.

Zod directly scales from Superman who he was dominating for a good portion of their fight.

He would solo both of these in a blitz and even if they would hit him (though they cannot because they cannot see them) he wouldn't be hurt.

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#29 Posted by plotweapon16255 (7504 posts) - - Show Bio

@rajjar said:
@plotweapon16255 said:
@rajjar said:
@plotweapon16255 said:
@rajjar said:
@plotweapon16255 said:
@rajjar said:
@plotweapon16255 said:
@rajjar said:
@plotweapon16255 said:

Zod can solo.

No energy durability.

Any feat to say they can use any offensive attack before they get blized?

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Uh, Power Stone forcefield. Power-Stone AoE.Zod isn't blitzing two at a time.

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Uh, Power Stone forcefield on Okoye's spear in the battle of Wakanda.

NLF.

Power Stone AoE's throughout the MCU. Have you even watched GOTG or Infinity War? Lol.

Featless Gets blized.

You seem to think Zod can one-shot blitz them. He can't. He isn't a speedster to do so.Feats for Zod?

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You think the Power Stone will just deactivate during Zod's bullrush?

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Feats to say it can work before getting blized?

Feats to say blitz is one-shot? Clark didn't get one-shotted.

Feats to say they can survive building busting blitz?

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#30 Posted by incursion2 (1885 posts) - - Show Bio

Team one stomps

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#31 Edited by Rajjar (1768 posts) - - Show Bio

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@rajjar: There is visible pain and discomfort.

Not enough to be a factor in this battle.

Thor's decent lightning strike on Iron Man didn't melt his armor.

Not big enough. Not the sky lightning I was referring too.

Vibranium which probably doesn't have a massive melting point given it was being used for ages in Wakanda wasn't melted by Thor's lightning.

That vibranium core of Sokovia melted just fine when Thor's energy got sealed into it instead of escaping through the bottom. It's all about high-end feats.

Thor's lightning had never been shown to be as hot as Heat Vision.

Heat Vision melted steel. Thor's lightning melted Vibranium and the cloak around Stormbreaker caused explosions in ships designed to tank re-entry. No upper limit quantifiable since there aren't numbers provided in either universe. Regardless, even regular lightning is five times the temperature of the sun's surface at high-end temperatures.

One of the most powerful lightning blasts Thor had ever made only destroyed a balcony. Didn't even put a cent in the structure it was next to.

Perhaps because it was homed in on Hela?

Regardless, if you want to lowball that, scale the Asgardian construction metals off the other high-end feats of the lightning the same way you scale Zod off of Superman. By the destructive capabilities of Thor's high end feats, Asgard isn't Earth's level of building material. And even Mjolnir takes several hits to destroy material like the Rainbow Bridge. Independently, MCU Nidavellir outclasses literally all of DCEU Earth's (and regular Earth, too) materials when it comes to durability. The energy durability of Asgardian materials is rather consistent.

Power stone blasts were pathetic in IW and definitely not comparable to Heat Vision which gave Superman visible discomfort.

Never have I used or ever will use those IW blasts against Superman as an argument.

Even the power blast AOE's were pathetic because Superman had tanked Doomsday's massive AOE which makes anything Thor's lightning or Power Stone has done look chicken shit by comparison (barring the moon feat)

He tanked the kinetic force, not the energy bolts. Only Diana actually got tagged by them, and they only hit her shield and made it slightly glow. Doomsday's attack isn't concentrated, so AoE's don't really apply here since Zod isn't tanking one that blew up the Statesman ship.

Thor's high-end lightning feats > DD's AoE in potency because they are surprisingly consistent when Thor is blowing up rock/metal.

Eson the Celestial's Power Stone feat is planetary, and the whole reason GOTG Ronan is scaled off of him.

Zod directly scales from Superman who he was dominating for a good portion of their fight.

And Thanos scales from Hulk who he beat in less than ten shots. That's also MoS Superman who is substantially weaker and slower than BvS/JL Superman by far.

He would solo both of these in a blitz and even if they would hit him (though they cannot because they cannot see them) he wouldn't be hurt.

Zod has no energy durability feats. Independently, composite MCU Thanos will get blitzed and then activate the Power Stone that one-shot Hulk in the Prelude.

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#32 Posted by Rajjar (1768 posts) - - Show Bio

@rajjar said:
@plotweapon16255 said:
@rajjar said:
@plotweapon16255 said:
@rajjar said:
@plotweapon16255 said:
@rajjar said:
@plotweapon16255 said:
@rajjar said:
@plotweapon16255 said:

Zod can solo.

No energy durability.

Any feat to say they can use a

ny offensive attack before they get blized?

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Uh, Power Stone forcefield. Power-Stone AoE.Zod isn't blitzing two at a time.

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Uh, Power Stone forcefield on Okoye's spear in the battle of Wakanda.

NLF.

Power Stone AoE's throughout the MCU. Have you even watched GOTG or Infinity War? Lol.

Featless Gets blized.

You seem to think Zod can one-shot blitz them. He can't. He isn't a speedster to do so.Feats for Zod?

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You think the Power Stone will just deactivate during Zod's bullrush?

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Feats to say it can work before getting blized?

Feats to say blitz is one-shot? Clark didn't get one-shotted.

Feats to say they can survive building busting blitz?

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Just because you cut through a building and cause a single floor to collapse on a building that is covered by GLASS doesn't mean you are a building buster. I'm sure Thanos can definitely survive a building bust. Ronan can too, because Hadron particles.

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That is the Hadron Enforcer.

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Ronan's weapon is less durable than Ronan because if you watched the movie, you should know what destroyed the weapon (it was the Hadron Enforcer, but I couldn't find a gif)

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And Ronan's weapon can store this much energy without exploding at minimum by feats.

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The Dark Aster is couple miles long.

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#33 Edited by plotweapon16255 (7504 posts) - - Show Bio

@rajjar said:
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Feats to say they can survive building busting blitz?

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Just because you cut through a building and cause a single floor to collapse on a building that is covered by GLASS doesn't mean you are a building buster.

Hmm.

I'm sure Thanos can definitely survive a building bust.

So, featless.

Ronan can too, because Hadron particles.

Another featless.

That is the Hadron Enforcer.Ronan's weapon is less durable than Ronan because if you watched the movie, you should know what destroyed the weapon (it was the Hadron Enforcer, but I couldn't find a gif)

Another featless weapon destroying featless weapon.

And Ronan's weapon can store this much energy without exploding at minimum by feats.

So, it's already in critical breaking point.

The Dark Aster is couple miles long.

Let it be.

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#34 Edited by Rajjar (1768 posts) - - Show Bio

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Hmm.

So Zod's best feat is breaking through a glass building? You sure you want to say glass building buster solos a surface buster by feats and a planet buster by hype?

So, featless.

You didn't refute my two feat evidence for Thanos.

Another featless.

You still didn't refute my two feet evidence for Thanos.

Another featless weapon destroying featless weapon.

IF we use your level of highballing, the first weapon is moon-buster and the second one is planetary. That's a fair interpretation, since Zod is somehow building level even though he never busted a building on his own.

So, it's already in critical breaking point.

Fan fiction. Head canon. You didn't watch the movie, did you?

Let it be.

Good.

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#36 Posted by plotweapon16255 (7504 posts) - - Show Bio

@rajjar said:
@plotweapon16255 said:
@rajjar said:

Hmm.

So Zod's best feat is breaking through a glass building? You sure you want to say glass building buster solos a surface buster by feats and a planet buster by hype?

Hmm

So, featless.

You didn't refute my two feat evidence for Thanos.

Coz it's trash.

Another featless.

You still didn't refute my two feet evidence for Thanos.

Coz it's trash.

Another featless weapon destroying featless weapon.

IF we use your level of highballing, the first weapon is moon-buster and the second one is planetary. That's a fair interpretation, since Zod is somehow building level even though he never busted a building on his own.

So, it's still featless.

So, it's already in critical breaking point.

Fan fiction. Head canon. You didn't watch the movie, did you?

Rocket disagrees.

Let it be.

Good.

Hmm.

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#37 Posted by godzilla44 (7182 posts) - - Show Bio

DC team wins Zod MVP

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#38 Posted by Dabalya (174 posts) - - Show Bio

With stones team 1 wins.Without stones Zod solos.

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#39 Edited by Rajjar (1768 posts) - - Show Bio

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Coz its trash

Why is it trash? All of those attacks are big enough to blow up buildings. Power Stone Ronan is more durable than his weapon, and Thanos tanked that attack by Stark.

Rocket wasn't even there when Ronan blew up those ships. Zod has featless energy durability and will crush into paste the moment he hits Thanos, who one-shot Hulk with Power Stone in comics, 9 shot him with h2h without it. Your featless argument makes as sense as this. Zod gets ripped in half by Power Stone amped Thanos, who actually has real muscle strength feats, and not Zod.

Trash feats are still feats, and compared to yours, they are treasure. Where is Zod's feats that he won't squash himself by hitting someone who no-sold Hulk's blows.

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#40 Posted by DammeFavour (8292 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2. Just power stone isn't going to help, even iron man tanked it and he's not as durable as these guys. Plus team 1 lacks the durability

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#41 Edited by plotweapon16255 (7504 posts) - - Show Bio

@rajjar said:
@plotweapon16255 said:
Coz its trash

Why is it trash? All of those attacks are big enough to blow up buildings. Power Stone Ronan is more durable than his weapon, and Thanos tanked that attack by Stark.

Nope, it wasn't even powerful enough to scratch glass wall.

Rocket wasn't even there when Ronan blew up those ships. Zod has featless energy durability and will crush into paste the moment he hits Thanos,

Gets blized.

who one-shot Hulk with Power Stone in comics, 9 shot him with h2h without it.

Irrelevant.

Your featless argument makes as sense as this. Zod gets ripped in half by Power Stone amped Thanos, who actually has real muscle strength feats, and not Zod.

Lol.

Trash feats are still feats, and compared to yours,

Building busting >>>> ur trash feat.

they are treasure. Where is Zod's feats that he won't squash himself by hitting someone who no-sold Hulk's blows.

Lol.

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#42 Posted by Rajjar (1768 posts) - - Show Bio

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it wasn't even powerful enough to scratch glass wall

The Mirror Dimension is a BFR, you troll. Blunt force and energy durability are split, you troll. Are you saying Zod > Mirror Master? Are you implying that you actually watched Infinity War?

Because even Zod comes from re-entry, he still didn't smash that building. He only smashed that glass window. Glass level Zod and glass level Power Stone lmao gtfo with your lowballing

Gets blized.

Thanks for conceding that when Zod blitzes him, Zod will crush himself into paste. You got played!

Lol.

Trash feats are still feats, and compared to yours,

Building busting >>>> ur trash feat.

What trash feat? Are you trying to say that Ronan's blasting a three mile wide length of ships and that structure Tony slammed on Thanos couldn't destroy that building Zod "busted?"

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#43 Edited by Rajjar (1768 posts) - - Show Bio

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Team 2. Just power stone isn't going to help, even iron man tanked it and he's not as durable as these guys. Plus team 1 lacks the durability

Zod and Steppenwolf have moon-surface level durability now? Morals ARE off, so there is no reason for Thanos to job. He didn't even kill any of the heroes, when those blows he KO'ed Hulk with would have turned Stark into paste right when Thanos got his hands on him.

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#45 Posted by Lord_Doom159 (322 posts) - - Show Bio

Zod can solo

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#46 Posted by Helloman (28585 posts) - - Show Bio

Team one wins.

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#47 Posted by SexyBayonetta22 (1074 posts) - - Show Bio

Either solos. Thanos solos without stones.

I see thanos wank still exist. Zod curbs, Steppenwolf in canon comic stalemated Doomsday lool

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#48 Posted by APEX_pretador (19709 posts) - - Show Bio

@sexybayonetta22: oh steppenwolf lmao. Can I see the scans of him "canonically stalemating doomsday"?

And nice argument you have for zod there. Thanos gives them the hulk treatment only worse since they don't have the Hulk's strength.

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#49 Posted by SexyBayonetta22 (1074 posts) - - Show Bio

@rajjar said:
@DammeFavour said:

Team 2. Just power stone isn't going to help, even iron man tanked it and he's not as durable as these guys. Plus team 1 lacks the durability

Zod and Steppenwolf have moon-surface level durability now?

ok and how big was this moon huuh ? To me it was bilions of times smaller than our moon. Shards instantly goes to surface in seconds and they weren't even mach 500 or SoL but to me they were mach 3 at best. Our Moon is so far from surface ( 1 light second ) to reach. So nope. Hadron device is more powerful if object is bigger. It doesn't work as u think. same as power gem hit. it is more powerful if object is bigger and when it is organic matter

Morals ARE off, so there is no reason for Thanos to job. He didn't even kill any of the heroes, when those blows he KO'ed Hulk with would have turned Stark into paste right when Thanos got his hands on him.

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#50 Posted by SexyBayonetta22 (1074 posts) - - Show Bio

@sexybayonetta22: oh steppenwolf lmao. Can I see the scans of him "canonically stalemating doomsday"?

And nice argument you have for zod there. Thanos gives them the hulk treatment only worse since they don't have the Hulk's strength.

I have seen it somewhere but i would have to find it. Btw Zod is too versatile and thanos has no feats against heat vision and Zod strikes harder

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