Spider-Man

Wonder Woman

- Morals Off
- All gear allowed
- NWH Holland
- Fight takes place in downtown NYC
- Start 20m apart
Apparently this hasn't been done with NWH spidey
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You better edit out all gear allowed.. else he oneshots with magic webs.
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Spidey wins in any case.
I’m willing to do a feat comparison, dura, strength, scaling whatever.. Spidey just has the better feats.
Like we can start with speed.
Toms 20+ lightning feats including 2 slo mo perception feats
Plus Garfeilds 20+ instances of lightning timing.
Electro uses sky lightning from clouds on screen in NWH... We have tons of evidence that hes using lightning....The NWH script confirms Electro uses lightning.... the NWH VXF department say they modeled Electros CG off of IRL lightning, the VFX guys describe it as lightning and a electrical storm, The NWH VFX guys call it lightning again // TASM2 Electro also used lightning on screen and we have VFX statements from TASM2. // Raimi Spider-man is described as having lighting speed in guidebooks on novels. Electro himself can see bullets and electricity in slo motion.
Spider-Man moved body in astral form while 2 humans in the background are statued, Astral form has can perceive lighting in slow motion.
Dodged automatic gunfire from 8 drones, in a hallway, blind. - Dodged bullet from point blank range after its fired - Dodged shots from thousands of drones. - Swings around on a bridge and evades shots from Mysterio's drones- jumps out of bus and webs up drone before it can fire.
Dozens of reactions to energy blasts - reacts to Vultures energy blasts - reacts to Mysterios energy blasts - reacts to Chitari energy blasts - reacts to Starlords energy blasts - reacts to rain fire - and my personal favorite Pulls man out of the way of energy blast after it’s fired.
Dodges meteors while carrying Mantis- Pulls Drax away from meteor.
Dodges rocket from Falcon....In official canon tie in comics Spiderman makes after images while statuing bullet from Falcon
Keeps ahead of Ironman while webslinging.
Avoids cars thrown by Scarlet Witch....Dodges piece of ground thrown by Scarlet Witch and webs her hands together
Dodged blindside punch from Shocker then webs hims up. - Dodged another punch from behind - and another- and another- and another.
- again.
Speed feats for people Spideys fought - Thanos dodges lightning - Strange statues humans - Doc Ock grabs explosive razor bats out of the air while statuing Strange - Goblin dodges webs and blitzes the box out off Strange's hands - Electro can perceive bullets and electricity in slo motion
Both are considered lightning timers, however he can see lightning in extreme slow motion and has a precog edge.
If someone wants to debate it out I’m down (here or in a CAV).. if you tag me on this post be prepared to compare feats… I started with speed (I usually do to determine who gets first strike) so if you want to tag me and debate this….beat his speed/precog or concede speed and we can move on to the next stat.
Wonder Woman with ease.
Short version - Too strong, too skilled, too fast, gear is too good
Her sword cut off Doomday’s arm and he tanked a nuke. Spider’s ONLY saving grace is the environment. He could use it to hang with her for a while, but he can’t hurt her. His punches couldn’t hurt GG.
She also lassoed lightning and Supes, the latter statued everyone but Flash, and kept up with him in a fight. I don’t think Spidey would take a lasso seriously, and if he gets tangled in it, she decapitates him.
If Spidey can somehow use the environment to disarm her, I still don’t know what he can to to hurt her. She’s incredibly skilled, and could use her bracelets against her sword if he has it, and she also has a shield that she used to against one of DD’s legs to knock him up in the air.
Her speed also present a huge problem for Spidey.
Giving her all of her gear makes this a borderline mismatch.
@death4bunnies: Lmao, I just figured since this seems to be a hot topic why not let them go all out yk
@death4bunnies: Lmao, I just figured since this seems to be a hot topic why not let them go all out yk
In that case it’s a stomp in Spideys favor.
Magic BFR webs >>> magic lassoo that makes you tell the truth.
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Again if anyone wants to compare stats feat for feat here or in a CAV I’m down.
I already said Diana is also a lightning timer..showed 40+ lightning timing feats for Spidey .. plus his precog edge give him first strike.
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If someone wants to skip speed and compare strength I’d be down.
Tower lift...., notable he saved the orphanage by dragging the tower away from the orphanage through another building, and was busting pillars with his webs… This is lifting a small building on its face, you can really see how much weight he was holding in this gif when the let’s go and it falls.
Ferry hold... Why I think this is impressive is.. as each web broke weight was added to him, and he held it for a good bit after the final web broke.
Debris lift.... the concrete ceiling, and the HVAC units.
Spiderman has casually caught a car that going 30 mph and weighs 3000 lbs, caught a SUV with one hand, caught another SUV, redirected a half a taxi thrown by Cull into him, kicked over a bus, lifted a car 100s of feet with one hand , caught a falling elevator, Pulls 2 cars into the air hard enough to rock a highway sign.
Pulled out dozen of electric tower cables
Has conversations whilst holding around 27 tons of airport bridge.(Holland endorses 27 ton weight)
Hits Molten Man with 2 boulders.
Hits Molten man with small building.
Spidey overpowers Doc Ocks arms…Hits Doc Ocks arm off his chest.. Ironspider arms are are stronger than Doc Ocks Arms.. Doc Ocks arms throw cars, rip off bank vault doors, and can bust through highway overpasses, andrip up Stark Nanotech.
Catches Humans Punch,1,2,3,..Catches Vultures Punch..Catches Winter Soldiers Punch
Catches Culls jumping slam in IW - Notable Cull was beating on IM in the same scene.
Overpowers Cull in Endgame.- Notable Cull was beating on IM again, and SM saved him again.
Pulls down Thanos arm.Grabs Thanos head and bends him over.
Ties Giantman's legs together. (Giantman can kick a bus so hard it splits in half on vision.)
Punches through a giant shield.
Punches Goblin's arm blade in half.
Busts Goblin through concrete floor with a jumping stomp.
Busts into Goblin's glider with 2 elbows - Notable the glider has took explosions and busted Doc Ocks arm.
Kicks Lizard into wall - Kicks lizard again and it takes lizard a bit to get back up- Notable the second kick seemed to keep lizard down longer than a giant crane falling on lizard.
Kicks and punches apart Stark Drones - another one busted with a kick - kick - kick - punch, and he even just rips the drones apart.
Cracks 4 inches of ballistic glass by landing on it, and breaks through it when provided with more momentum
Staggers Thanos with a kick - Staggers Thanos 3 more times
Rocks Giantman with a kick, (Giantman was tanking Warmachines missiles to the face in the same scene)- Tobey has rocked Giant Sandman with a kick.
Accidentally busts Sandmans hand. Tobey busted Giant Sandmans hand.
I doubt anyone on Diana’s side will actually compare feat for feat here.. they will probably just say her outlier scaling is super valid even tho her best non scaling strength feat is lifting a tank and that Spideys is invalid even tho he has better feats all around… but again if someone wants to prove me wrong we can go feat for feat... like gentlemen..here or in a CAV… open invite.
WW is fast enough to swing on lightning, lasso a bullets whilst weakened, strong enough to stop an overhand punch from DD with the tip of her sword etc. Spider-Man broke a few ribs getting slammed through a few floors. WW bodies.
Wonder Woman definitely takes a W
Dude. Spiderman was bloodied while facing goblin, diana took hits from superman, doomsday, ares and steppenwolf and came out unscathed. They are on completely different scales no matter how much d4b tries to wank spiderman
She just blitzes and cuts him in half
Dude. Spiderman was bloodied while facing goblin, diana took hits from superman, doomsday, ares and steppenwolf and came out unscathed. They are on completely different scales no matter how much d4b tries to wank spiderman
She just blitzes and cuts him in half
Diana struggled with Ludendorff and Cheetah, came out scathed against men, required their muscle power to boost the strength of her shield bash, struggled dragging them through water, and almost got killed by Parademons.
If Steppenwolf feats are legit, it means Steppenwolf telling the Parademons to finish her is also legit. A Pyrrhic victory, methinks!
@rajjarsalt: um.....what?
@rajjarsalt: um.....what?
Oh yeah, I forgot, Spider-Man taking a bullet in NWH would prove fatal to Wonder Woman!
How much times has this been done? Spidey wins.
Exactly
@lightordark: lassoing superman isn’t impressive,Considering he wasn’t using super speed, we know he wasn’t because Diana is one of the people he statued and therefore doesn’t scale and he immediately overpowered her with one arm.
wonder woman would definitely kill him with her sword. but he’s definitely hurting her with his punches, thanos was grimacing from them. And goblin felt them too based on all the grunts he was doing, he’s just insane so he powered through. And he had goblin crying out in pain at times during the final battle, when morals off.
speed wise, Peter is likely superior, he reacted to electricity at a much closer range Than Diana. lifting strength wise Pete is vastly superior, and it’s what will allow him a web incap win. And a bfr win
Peter wins 6/10
WW is fast enough to swing on lightning, lasso a bullets whilst weakened, strong enough to stop an overhand punch from DD with the tip of her sword etc. Spider-Man broke a few ribs getting slammed through a few floors. WW bodies.
Wonder Woman is also slow enough to get tagged by regular men, get tagged by bullets while weakened, weak enough to get overpowered by a breeze. Spider-Man on the other hand defeated the Sorcerer Supreme and resisted the power of the Infinity Stones. He webs her apart.
I'm giving it to Spiderman for this one here because this guy has immense strength and speed. While I can see Diana giving trouble with Spiderman in hand to hand combat (if the speed was equalized) Spiderman would be able to react to most of Diana's attack speeds. Spidey has reacted to drones that were shooting lasers at him (several drones at him during Far from Home) and reacting to lightning to Electro in No Way Home, then chances are he would be reacting to Diana several times. Not only that but Spidey can attack within a far distance within that location and would take advantage of the area that he's in into consideration. If Spidey can outsmart strange with the dimension that he took advantage in a short amount of time, then I can see Diana doing the same thing. Spidey hold his own against Cull Obsidian by himself so chances are his attacks might do some damage to Diana. Spidey wins with low to mid difficulty.
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It’s always hilarious when the same people bring up weakened WW feats. I can play that game too. Spider-Man had trouble with three normal human beings robbing an ATM. He also got smoked by a construction worker and his nemesis was a construction foreman.
@rajjarsalt: Spider-Man didn’t defeat strange. That’s PIS strange is never going to actually fight another super hero. Come on raj, 10 year old Diana would beat Spider-Man.
@rajjarsalt: Wong is SS btw. Might wanna edit that post.
Diana one hand strangles him. Armored Batman could've took the spine buster and other hits from Goblin no problem considering it withstood throws and pushes from Superman, yet we know Diana could crush that armor like a tin can. The high tier street leveler won't be any different.
@the_gaurdian: highly doubtful considering Superman’s attacks on Batman didn’t do anything that impressive to Batman, at most they broke a wall with the force of one hit. And he was pretty hurt by just those, While goblin went through 6 floors with a single throw. Not to mention the pumpkin bomb that would have definitely killed Bruce.
And based on there actual strength feats, no way is she strangling him one handed. Her best lifting strength feat is lifting a tank, which took noticeable effort.
I swear this has been done before
Different I guess because OP is giving Diana and Spidey all their gear, iron spider(bringing stabby Spider arms, and homing web missiles) etc… and OP said even magic BFR webs.. people seem to be ignoring that tho I guess.
I swear this has been done before
Different I guess because OP is giving Diana and Spidey all their gear, iron spider(bringing stabby Spider arms, and homing web missiles) etc… and OP said even magic BFR webs.. people seem to be ignoring that tho I guess.
If that's the case Peter should stomp IMO
I swear this has been done before
Different I guess because OP is giving Diana and Spidey all their gear, iron spider(bringing stabby Spider arms, and homing web missiles) etc… and OP said even magic BFR webs.. people seem to be ignoring that tho I guess.
If that's the case Peter should stomp IMO
That’s what I said in post 11
@spongegar: There was a 3 spidermen vs Diana thread, and a FFH spidey vs Diana thread. This one's different but you get the gist.
@lightordark: lassoing superman isn’t impressive,Considering he wasn’t using super speed, we know he wasn’t because Diana is one of the people he statued and therefore doesn’t scale and he immediately overpowered her with one arm.
The JL Buster Supes was on an entirely different level. He wasn’t holding back at all. Since he statued WW, who can lasso lightening without precog ability, then I’ll argue all day that the lasso of Supes is a WW feat.
The strength doesn’t make a difference considering that version of Supes would stomp just about any MCU or DCEU hero or villain.
wonder woman would definitely kill him with her sword. but he’s definitely hurting her with his punches, thanos was grimacing from them.
Please, those punches weren’t hurting Thanos, not even close. You’re ignoring the context. He was fighting multiple people, and he caught Spidey and and legit stomped him.
And goblin felt them too based on all the grunts he was doing, he’s just insane so he powered through. And he had goblin crying out in pain at times during the final battle, when morals off.
Okay, but I’m definitely not putting GG on WW’s durability or strength level. GG would get obliterated by Doomsday or Steppenwolf, and WW stood toe to toe with both of them.
speed wise, Peter is likely superior, he reacted to electricity at a much closer range Than Diana. lifting strength wise Pete is vastly superior, and it’s what will allow him a web incap win. And a bfr win
Arguing that Spidey is faster is fine, and if he is (which I disagree with), then it’s negligible at best. He is nowhere near WW in skill, her gear is magical and can hurt Kryptonians.
Peter wins 6/10
Diana 9/10 - Pete might get lucky once
@lightordark: “The JL Buster Supes was on an entirely different level. He wasn’t holding back at all. Since he statued WW, who can lasso lightening without precog ability, then I’ll argue all day that the lasso of Supes is a WW feat.“
How is it a ww feat if we know it doesn’t mean she scales in any relevant way? He statutes her right after this, they aren’t the same speed. She wasn’t even able to bring her brackets together before he could move like 10 feet.
“Please, those punches weren’t hurting Thanos, not even close. You’re ignoring the context. He was fighting multiple people, and he caught Spidey and and legit stomped him.“
Idk what you would describe as hurting, but he made him flinch back and grit his teeth with every hit. He hurt him and having Multiple people around doesn’t make thanos less durable. He couldn’t beat thanos but Wonder Woman can’t beat doomsday or steppenwolf
“Okay, but I’m definitely not putting GG on WW’s durability or strength level. GG would get obliterated by Doomsday or Steppenwolf, and WW stood toe to toe with both of them.“
Spidey took on hulk level fighters just as well as Wonder Woman took on character like doomsday and steppenwolf. Took hits from thanos, and stopped full on attacks from cull several times
Spidey wins 6/10 times.
@lightordark: “The JL Buster Supes was on an entirely different level. He wasn’t holding back at all. Since he statued WW, who can lasso lightening without precog ability, then I’ll argue all day that the lasso of Supes is a WW feat.“
How is it a ww feat if we know it doesn’t mean she scales in any relevant way? He statutes her right after this, they aren’t the same speed. She wasn’t even able to bring her brackets together before he could move like 10 feet.
It's a feat because with Supes speed, he could have easily moved out of the way.
“Please, those punches weren’t hurting Thanos, not even close. You’re ignoring the context. He was fighting multiple people, and he caught Spidey and and legit stomped him.“
Idk what you would describe as hurting, but he made him flinch back and grit his teeth with every hit. He hurt him and having Multiple people around doesn’t make thanos less durable. He couldn’t beat thanos but Wonder Woman can’t beat doomsday or steppenwolf
Gritting your teeth can be a sign of frustration. I am not saying he was less durable. I am saying that he wasn't just thinking about Spidey in that moment. He was trying to get the Cloak of Levitation off the gauntlet.
When he did focus entirely on Spidey, he caught him, called him and insect, implying heavily that he was nothing more than an irritation, and slammed him into the ground and effortless threw him aside.
“Okay, but I’m definitely not putting GG on WW’s durability or strength level. GG would get obliterated by Doomsday or Steppenwolf, and WW stood toe to toe with both of them.“
Spidey took on hulk level fighters just as well as Wonder Woman took on character like doomsday and steppenwolf. Took hits from thanos, and stopped full on attacks from cull several times
The hits he took from Thanos was in the IronSpidey suit. Are you claiming he is just as durable without it because he isn't wearing it in the OP's picture. WW uses her kit well and avoids taking direct hits.
Wonder Woman no-sells the six story slam by GG. Spidey was down.
Spidey wins 6/10 times.
Without IronSpidey Suit - WW stomps 10/10. They aren't even in the same league. With it, he might pull off a round with an insane amount of luck due to homefield advantage.
@lightordark: Clark was definitely holding back in that fight against the JL.
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