MCU Spider-Man vs DCEU Nam-Ek and Faora

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Poll MCU Spider-Man vs DCEU Nam-Ek and Faora (90 votes)

Kryptonians 70%
Spider-Man 29%
Stalemate 1%
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Conditions

  • Peter is as focused as he was against the drones.
  • Peter starts off in his FFH suit with his standard gear and AI Karen, but has access to his Iron Spider suit should he need it.
  • Random encounter
  • In Character
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He dies

He wins!

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And we all know how powerful trains are!

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WTF? ...

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Both blitz and solos

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random bullet kills all 3

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Their physicals are way beyond MCU Peter.

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Either solos.

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The Kryptonians stomp.

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@david_searlie: They are much stronger than him and more durable. The only thing that Peter has above them is reaction speed.

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Spider-Man gets squashed

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#17 death4bunnies  Moderator  Online

@david_searlie: What makes you think that mid-tier Spidey is a match for these two? He can't throw a train a mile distance which weighed 165 tons, smh. Nor can he survive the punch that Nam-Ek took that toppled other train cars. This is a spite match, or you're seriously overrating Spider-Man.

Mile? He threw that train a mile? How do you know it was a mile?

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OT:

As others have said he has better speed and reactions.. the smallvile kryptonians don’t have reaction/speed feats on the level of his hallway scene.

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And a huge huge factor are those webs.. 2 strands can support a belltower without ripping.

Im not convinced the kryptonians can hold that tower so I’m not sure they can rip out of 2 strands of webbing.

4 strands should have the tensile strength to support 2 towers.. 6 strands should be able to hold 3 towers.. 8 strands should be able to hold 4 towers.. etc etc.. my question to you all is how many strands to incap the kryptonians? Infinite?

Web homing missiles probably incap, even if people think they won’t be outright incapped It should slow them down a lot right?

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Spiderman should be able to take a few hits in the rare occasion he does get tagged.

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He didn’t even feel that hit from Cull without the IronSpider..and with the Ironspider he can take hits from Thanos.

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IronSpider doesn’t carry lowends, and in it pete took hits from Thanos, and gave some out.

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Nam Ek and Faora also have a fatal flaw.. their masks keep them from being downed via sensory overload.. Zods mask was busted in 7 hits from SM.. Faoras mask was busted by a missile.. Spider-Man can rock Giantman, bust RPG proof glass, and with the IronSpider rock Thanos.

How do the Spidermen know that the energy mask is a weakness?

Karen. :)

Karen: An artificial intelligence designed by Tony stark. She can analyze the environment to inform Parker about his surroundings and Enhanced Reconnaissance Mode: Allows Spider-Man to see infrared radiation and hear beyond walls from a distance.

She has provided Pete with some hard numbers and quick battle field analysis.

Peter is also very very smart by him self, thinking up inventive ways to defeat opponents along with a strong science background.

Karen will inform him, "this guy is really strong and your assault did no substantial damage"

"What do I do"-Pete

"Analyzing....." Karen

Id give Pete the knowledge of the suits basic functionality with 5-10 minutes.

"Its providing the alien a otherworldly atmosphere"-Karen

"lets break it"-Pete.

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Both Kryptonians together might be a hard sell, but by feats I think it’s pretty clear he can beat either.

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Come on now either of them punch a hole through his chest

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#19  Edited By death4bunnies  Moderator  Online
@satanishki said:

Come on now either of them punch a hole through his chest

That’s funny, Thanos couldn’t punch through him.. Cull couldnt..

The IronSpider has no real lowends… and has rocked Thanos…plus he has better speed feats and very strong webbing.

Can i ask you if you think the kryptonians can break out of 2 strands of webbing?

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^^ 2 strands can support a belltower.

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^^ 4 strands held CW Giantmans legs together and he could kick through planes.

Do you think the kryptonians can bust out of 4 strands? How about 6? 10? Infinite?

Do you think homing web missiles slow them down at least?

OT: I think Ironspider can web incap and probably bust thier helmets.

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#21  Edited By death4bunnies  Moderator  Online
@graysonblake said:

@death4bunnies: I have no idea why you think Spidey even has a remote chance in this fight. Karen helping him through the fight, will accomplish nothing. Faora and Nam-Ek KO'ed MoS Superman, who would wipe the floor with Peter. This simple scaling alone helps them stomp this. Also, Faora sent Supes into a bank safe a block away and completely crushed the metal. The duo stomps and Faora can blitz.

Lol, you answered zero of my questions, addressed zero of my points.. then said you have no idea why I think what I think?

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You also claimed Nam Ek threw a train a mile.. I asked you to prove it was a mile, can you?

Let’s go step by step.. show me the faora speed feat that says she can blitz please.

I’ll wait.

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#23 death4bunnies  Moderator  Online

@death4bunnies said:

@graysonblake said:

@death4bunnies: I have no idea why you think Spidey even has a remote chance in this fight. Karen helping him through the fight, will accomplish nothing. Faora and Nam-Ek KO'ed MoS Superman, who would wipe the floor with Peter. This simple scaling alone helps them stomp this. Also, Faora sent Supes into a bank safe a block away and completely crushed the metal. The duo stomps and Faora can blitz.

Lol, you answered zero of my questions, addressed zero of my points.. then said you have no idea why I think what I think?

Let’s go step by step.. show me the faora speed feat that says she can blitz please.

I’ll wait.

Spidey isn't busting those masks, and does it state they start off with them? Faora blitzed some military soldiers in seconds, displaying such speed that Spidey wouldn't be able to rep. I know why you think Spider-Man, but I don't understand why. I'll answer your questions: I have no idea how many it would take to restrain a Kryptonian, maybe like 10 or something. And answer me this: Do you think Spider-Man can survive those hits from Superman to Nam-Ek, where he punched him a few times and knocked him into the station?

Faora and Nam Ek are unadapted Kryptonians, they are not Zod, and they are generally restricted to their unadapted form and masks as they were shown on screen.(if this was 2 Zods I’d side with the kryptonians, but it’s not)

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I don’t think blitzing humans(that we’re shooting her.. is better than the Spider-Man feat I showed.

Is this the feat your talking about?

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You think this feat.. where she’s getting tagged by bullets shot by humans is better than the Spiderman feat I just showed?

You think 10 strands of webbing to incap a unadapted kryptonian? Seems a bit high, but fair enough; 10 is very doable by SM.. as his speed feats are way way better than Faoras or Nameks.

Yes I think the IronSpider that took hits from Thanos and has no real lowends is plenty to take those specific hits, it won’t feel good, but nosold took Culls hit outside of the Ironspider and with it took hits from Thanos... I think that’s plenty, but honestly I don’t think the Kryptonians tag him..

I think SM is faster, and that ever web attack slows them down substantially… as you said it would take 10 strands of web for a incap(I think it might take less) but I think 10 is very doable, especially with his homing web missiles.

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#24 Alphamon  Online

Kryptonions probably beat regular suit Pete but might lose to iron spider

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Spider man wins

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@death4bunnies:

Dude…no.

Yes, Peter has some impressive feats; some high end ones at that. But Kryptonians are on a different level. They’re way stronger, way more durable, and way more brutal. The only thing that’s hard to quantify is how Peter’s web would do since it’s strong and has held a lot of weight/restrained a lot in all his showings. But even with that, he’d have to tag them with enough to truly incap them; they’re not just going to stand there and be cocooned by Peter.

By your logic, barring the usage of energy attacks, he can beat any pairing of duos from the list of Captain Marvel, Wonder Woman, Vision, Thor, Steppenwolf, Zod, Kurse, Superman, etc, which isn’t true. There’s too much raw strength and durability amongst those high tier’ers.

I’ll give you that it may not be a 5sec stomp, solely because of Peter’s senses, webbing, and agility being a nuisance initially. But the moment they do lay a hand on him, they’ll crush him…literally.

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#28  Edited By death4bunnies  Moderator  Online

@dre_savage:

I dont know how they would just crush him when he took repeated attacks from Thanos.

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And speed feats say they won’t be able to tag him very easily.
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I don’t see any speed feats from them that beat Spidermans speed feats, and they legit just let humans shoot them.

Plus he has web homming missiles… do you agree that would at least slow them down? I agree the web has shown extreme tensile strength, feats shown above, plus Tony said it’s tensile strength is “off the charts” and Tony himself has made some high tier materials.

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I dont think the unadapted kryptonians from MOS are anywhere near the strength of some of the people you mentioned(especially the likes of Thor and CM), and yes without ranged attacks a brute must beat the strength of the webbing… and it’s not exactly “my logic” it’s just logic.. you’d agree that 2 strands of webbing are twice as strong as 1 strand..right?

(also not that it matter much, but I think SM is plenty brutal when he needs to be, he killed dozens of aliens by stabbing them through the brain)

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#30  Edited By GangOrca

With the Iron Spider, he might be able to get one restrained. Both of them is a stomp, and either solo without the Iron Spider suit.

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Both solo stomp literally better at everything

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Delusions be damned.

Faora blitzes and one shots.

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Spider-Man can definitely win against either in a 1v1 due to superior strength, durability and speed feats.

After reading D4B's posts, I do believe that Peter can actually win this fight.

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@qualitea said:

Spider-Man can definitely win against either in a 1v1 due to superior strength, durability and speed feats.

After reading D4B's posts, I do believe that Peter can actually win this fight.

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mcu fans stupidity never ends. Either one shots.

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Lol... Mcu Spiderman is not winning against any dceu kryptonian.

He might lasts a while because of his agility, reflexes and spidersense but let's face it he's out of his depth.

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Why has this not been locked…

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Can their masks handle his webbing

Lol... Mcu Spiderman is not winning against any dceu kryptonian.

He might lasts a while because of his agility, reflexes and spidersense but let's face it he's out of his depth.

Duo

Rajj and D4B telepathy doesn’t work on me.

mcu fans stupidity never ends. Either one shots.

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He wins!

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And we all know how powerful trains are!

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Peter stomps. These fodders aren't doing anything to him

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Delusions be damned.

Faora blitzes and one shots.

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Both literally 1 shot surviving Thanos hits means nothing cap has done it on numerous occasions

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Mismatch

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Either solos Peter

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Duo

Rajj and D4B telepathy doesn’t work on me.