MCU Scarlet Witch Vs Darth Vader

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  • Morals off
  • No BFR
  • Speed equalized

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Bump

Also Canon or legends?

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#3 mossbeard  Online

Vader rips her head off

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Whether it's canon or legends Vader stomps

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Feat spam time I guess

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Feat spam time I guess

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I don't see what's impressive about the first thing.

The second feat is struggling to support a part of a small building, so not impressive.

The third feat is meh, compared to Vader

The next two are EG feats, and this is Wanda as of IW feats.

And The last one is her bending vibranium, that had just been melted by Thor's lightning, the mind stone, and Iron Man's repulsor. Before being pummeled by the Hulk, so again not impressive.

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@achillesspawn: Sorry I didn't respond, tags not working yk

What feats does Vader actually have? The only one I know of which is definitely superior is the feat that may or may not be telepathy with the giant monster. Besides that, nothing that is directly better than Wanda's feats.

The next two are EG feats, and this is Wanda as of IW feats.

It's CV. Emma only said "IW Wanda" because when the Phase 3 movies came out, people treated them like whole new characters every new movie. Why, I don't know.

And The last one is her bending vibranium, that had just been melted by Thor's lightning, the mind stone, and Iron Man's repulsor. Before being pummeled by the Hulk, so again not impressive.

That vibranium was still solid and intact, plus that was AoU Wanda.

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Kanan easily moves two large asteroids, with a mass of around 200 000 tons( ship they are compered to is 60 meters big) at high hypersonic speeds, much faster than space ships that were racing through space at full speed :

Kanan is an insect to Vader. Vader overpowered and slammed down at hypersonic speeds the galaxy's greatest predator. Summa-Verminoth. Creature, 7,4 km big

Easily pushed guy tens of thousands of km into the atmosphere of a gas giant in just a few seconds, at sub rel speeds:

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Overpowers 6 full power portion torpedoes from Rebel ships at once, each of them is large town level

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Overpowers Kaiju Ender

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Note: Based on size alone this would be in 500 000+ ton range, when you factor strength it had, it jumping into space and yanking great warships from the sky and baiting them in half, becomes a multi-million-ton feat:

Vader stomps

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@achillesspawn: Sorry I didn't respond, tags not working yk

What feats does Vader actually have? The only one I know of which is definitely superior is the feat that may or may not be telepathy with the giant monster. Besides that, nothing that is directly better than Wanda's feats.

The next two are EG feats, and this is Wanda as of IW feats.

It's CV. Emma only said "IW Wanda" because when the Phase 3 movies came out, people treated them like whole new characters every new movie. Why, I don't know.

And The last one is her bending vibranium, that had just been melted by Thor's lightning, the mind stone, and Iron Man's repulsor. Before being pummeled by the Hulk, so again not impressive.

That vibranium was still solid and intact, plus that was AoU Wanda.

It's fine

The summa verminoth was probably TK, at least imo. Casually lifting and ripping apart an AT AT, casually lifting an AT ST and throwing it around like a toy, lifting to AT DPs that fell on him, casually collapsing a tower, casually pulling an AT AT walker towards him, making a force barrier that resisted millions of tons of water, did the same thing again, made a force barrier that no sold the explosion of the biggest imperial weapons factor, casually pulling ships out of the sky, etc. Scaling above Maul's hyperdirve feat, scales above every jedi before ROTJ, scales above every sith except Palpatine.

His force push ripped the flesh of of Lyleks, these were durable enough to no sell blaster bolts, and more importantly they scale above Vader's armor, which was durable enough to tank AT AT fire, survive an explosion that destroyed the sith temple on Malachor, and survive a huge Kyber crystal explosion.

I get that, but it still says IW so using EG feats doesn't make sense

Yes but it was clearly weakened drastically.

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Vader solo the verse

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This fully depends on if Wanda is as angry as she is when she attack Thanos. That would crush Vader, otherwise. Vader bodies her.

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Vader

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@achillesspawn: i updated the OP

With WandaVision feats and speed equalized, unless Vader kills her the second the battle starts, he'll probably loose.

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#18 frozen  Moderator

@heiqn said:

Vader

Vader might honestly have superior TP. He TP'd Luke who was able to resist city level TP.

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@frozen: When?

TLDR - A Death Star destroyed a city from Rogue One which left behind an area of death in the Force that attempts to corrupt any sentient being in the area. It was a city-ish population that created the dark side power there.

Chulco took “one step” towards the dark side and was driven to rage to try and kill Luke, and even peaceful worms were being driven mad by the area. All sentient life within the city scope was corrupted yet Luke could resist. Scans in below link:

https://imgur.com/a/DtOV77q

ROTJ junior novel says Vader briefly probes Luke's mind:

Luke closed his eyes. I’m sorry, Leia and Han. I’d do anything to save you, but I must resist the dark side. Suddenly, Luke felt a dull ache in his head, and sensed that Vader was using the Force to probe his mind.

“Yes, your thoughts betray you,” Vader spoke, confirming Luke’s suspicion. “Your feelings for them are strong. Especially for …”

Luke tried to block his thoughts — and failed. (p.244/284)

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@frozen said:
@eredin12 said:

@frozen: When?

TLDR - A Death Star destroyed a city from Rogue One which left behind an area of death in the Force that attempts to corrupt any sentient being in the area. It was a city-ish population that created the dark side power there.

Chulco took “one step” towards the dark side and was driven to rage to try and kill Luke, and even peaceful worms were being driven mad by the area. All sentient life within the city scope was corrupted yet Luke could resist. Scans in below link:

https://imgur.com/a/DtOV77q

ROTJ junior novel says Vader briefly probes Luke's mind:

Luke closed his eyes. I’m sorry, Leia and Han. I’d do anything to save you, but I must resist the dark side. Suddenly, Luke felt a dull ache in his head, and sensed that Vader was using the Force to probe his mind.

“Yes, your thoughts betray you,” Vader spoke, confirming Luke’s suspicion. “Your feelings for them are strong. Especially for …”

Luke tried to block his thoughts — and failed. (p.244/284)

The population is unconfirmed therefore the feat is incalculable to my knowledge. I just read through all the scans. Not sure how you so quickly scaled it to city level

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@emmafrostxmen: It was Jeddha City, which had millions of inhabitants.

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Vader murders

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scarlet witch puts vader under mind control and makes him see illusions.

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Wanda morphs Vader into a clown, literally

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Lord Vader without much trouble. Wanda can't react to him.

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Lord Vader without much trouble. Wanda can't react to him.

Wanda would take over his mind. No counters for that so I guess it's a stomp.

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Vader unless he gives wanda time to reality warp

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@eternalsage: She won't have the chance to do that. Besides, Vader himself has formidable TP abilities. For all we know he can take over Wanda's mind as well. Does Wanda have TP resistance?

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WV Wanda is too powerful.

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Neither is stomping lol. This is a pretty evenly matched fight that can go either way.

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@eternalsage: She won't have the chance to do that. Besides, Vader himself has formidable TP abilities. For all we know he can take over Wanda's mind as well. Does Wanda have TP resistance?

Wanda has TK too. She would take over his mind within minutes.

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Vader blinks the verse before Wanda can think

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Lord Vader without much trouble. Wanda can't react to him.

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Why can’t Wanda just turn him into a circus performer?

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Why can’t Wanda just turn him into a circus performer?

The Speed gap is significant , before Wanda can do that she gets blitzed and decapitated

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Wanda.

/cast "no more Siths"

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@heiqn said:

Vader blinks the verse before Wanda can think

Bruh i can name you atleast 10 MCU characters who body Vader

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@ratniknasjeveru: Don't tire yourself, WI Ultron & Strange & Watcher & Dormammu and Celestials. That's it. Others die before they can react. Surtur and Wanda included.

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@heiqn: Surtur destroys him, Odin, Thor, Ikaris, Makkari, Thanos, Ancient One, Dweller In The Darkness, Captain Marvel, Ego, Star Lord with powers, Wanda, Electro, Sandman, Wong, Worthy Cap and they still have yet to introduce Doctor Doom, X-Men, Galactus and whole lot of characters, oh and Living Tribunal too bodies Vader

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@ratniknasjeveru said:

@heiqn: Surtur destroys him, Odin, Thor, Ikaris, Makkari, Thanos, Ancient One, Dweller In The Darkness, Captain Marvel, Ego, Star Lord with powers, Wanda, Electro, Sandman, Wong, Worthy Cap and they still have yet to introduce Doctor Doom, X-Men, Galactus and whole lot of characters, oh and Living Tribunal too bodies Vader

Lol all of these guys are fodders.

Vader literally TP's surtur before he can move his arm. Canon Vader TP'd a creature who is bigger than Surtur.

Makkari is slow for Vader. Others are too slow that they can't see Vader nor tag him. Lol at Thor, Captain Marvel, Wong, Wanda and Dr. Strange beating him. They are sooooo slow for Vader. Vader can just choke them instantly before they can start to think.

Only maybe Ego has a chance, but he didn't show any feats except summoning tentacles which is fodder for Vader. He can literally make force field around himself and call it a day because those tentacles can not pass fodders like Star-Lord and Yondu so I don't believe they can pass Vaders Force Field which can no sell Nuke level attacks.

Galactus, DD, X-Men and most of these guys are not in the MCU, talk after they are introduced.

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@heiqn: A: If you say fodder i don't take you seriously.

B: You can't be serious when you say Makkari is too slow for Vader, Surtur literally destroyed a small planet, Thor would BFR him with Bifrost and electricity is Vader's weakness and Thor is a God Of Thunder and he took a full power of a star how is force choke gonna do anything to him, Captain Marvel can simply just grab him and fly him into core of planet like she did to Ultron, Wong is sorcerer supreme and has more experience than Strange does due to Strange being away for 5 years, Wanda can just rip him apart like she did to Thanos, also y'all always say force choke this force choke that why didn't he force choke Obi Wan, why didn't he force choke Sidious, why didn't he force choke Luke?