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Poll: MCU Ronin vs CW Al Sah Him (66 votes)

Clint 21%
Oliver 79%

Sword Battle only

No morals

This is Post-Ra's Al Ghul's Training Oliver

To the death

Take place in Tokyo, 30 feet apart

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What did he do???

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#2 BladeOfFury  Online

@superarrow: He held off Black Panther in cqc for over a minute

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@superarrow: SoloingYakuza in Japan and cut few Outriders in half

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idk but Arrow was moping the floor with all his former allies and even wounds doesn't bother him

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He basically became punisher with swords and shuriken minus the tanking part . . from what rhodey said he created a bloodbath in mexico killing all the cartels and a scene where he is hunting down yakuzas and stomp their boss in a sword fight . . In the war he survived the explosion of the avengers hq . . Outrun the outriders and cut them in half clean

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@superarrow: SoloingYakuza in Japan and cut few Outriders in half

@lgh0stl said:

He basically became punisher with swords and shuriken minus the tanking part . . from what rhodey said he created a bloodbath in mexico killing all the cartels and a scene where he is hunting down yakuzas and stomp their boss in a sword fight . . In the war he survived the explosion of the avengers hq . . Outrun the outriders and cut them in half clean

U think it suffice to beat Oliver ? He can be suprising like suprising Eobard Thawne or stomping non jobbing Nyssa or moping the floor with John and even incapitation don't bothers him

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@lgh0stl: U know Oliver b4 GA career survived worse

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@davidharewood14: i don't know . . thing is he still didn't fight anything noteworthy . . but base on his feats he is freaking agile . . he was keeping his distance when the outriders started chasing at him and manage to dodge every one who try to tackles him until Black Panther ask him to carry the burden he was carrying reason why he is being chased.

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@lgh0stl: u know his s1 comicbook feats are insane. Ollie is better at parkour and gimnastic. But this would be a fight. Taking hits from ray palmer or constantly handling cap america lvl mirakuru soldiers with enhanced durability etc. He easily mopped the floor with non jobbing Nyssa ( Mia's teacher )

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@davidharewood14: if his fight with Ra Al Ghul is what your talking about and falling in the cliff i don't know how can i compare it to being inside of an exploding building . . To be fair he was only sent underground without much injury.

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@lgh0stl: u know team arrow members also were surviving being inside exploding car and Khushu idols enhanced strikes also are insane. + clash with the shark is very brutal

Ollie is casual bullet or energy blast timer from closer distance and even without seeing projectiles

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@davidharewood14: not trying to debate on who wins just listing out feats for Clint . . And as i said it's hard to debate for Clint since he still didn't fight anyone aside the four outriders that was chasing him . . now ask yourself if Oliver can defeat 4 outriders with 3 explosive arrow for slowing them down and a sword . . If you think that Oliver can replicate that feat with ease then you know the answer.

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@lgh0stl: Not lowballing but he easily stomped Nyssa who is already casual arrow slasher and post Al Sahim easily has beaten Malcolm. In s1 comic book he with normal not sharp medalion can slash human's neck. Is casual neck snapper or back breaker. s4 flashback survived clash with shark and s3 already has outsmarted mind controlled Flash. + in fight against Nyssa he can even performed combo attacks with sword and bow. Not lowballing or wanking but i think Clint must do more on screen as u said.

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@davidharewood14: might be better if you watch it . . most of Clint feat is off screen and the ones that are shown are killing outriders.

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@lgh0stl said:

@davidharewood14: might be better if you watch it . . most of Clint feat is off screen and the ones that are shown are killing outriders.

? What do u think which aliens are superior in stats outriders or dominators ?

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Honestly, this is pretty typical post-movie hype. As absolutely badass as Clint was, he gained absolutely no new feats other than the fact that he's equally good as before but now with a sword and throwing stars.

So just think Clint's level before, now with a sword.

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Seriously?

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He was good not THAT good

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@davidharewood14: Dominators are inconsistent, they could trade blows with Kara but later on iirc Diggle can hang with them

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He didn’t really do anything he couldn’t do before except use swords, which is just not enough tk beat Oliver.

But idk, through scaling, Widow, Okoye and Clint are all relatively on the same tier, and Okoye killed Corvus who Captain America lost to. Going this route, Clint can take Oliver. ?

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@davidharewood14: Dominators are inconsistent, they could trade blows with Kara but later on iirc Diggle can hang with them

Or we can assume that Earth-1 dominators are much weaker than Earth-38 ones. Because Earth-1 were easily one shoted by Kara's heatvision

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Al Sah Him stomps

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Oliver

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I am glad movie hype calmed down. Clint is badass but not THAT badass like Oliver, John or Malcolm

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#30  Edited By mexcomics2078

Still Oliver but Clint will make him work for it

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Oliver stomps.

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Oliver wins

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Oliver

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Al Sa Him.

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Oliver but barely

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#37  Edited By DanielDaRipper

Oliver still stomps. Clint's best feat was cutting down Outriders which Oliver can easily replicate.

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Oliver bodies.

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Oliver for now. Clint's swordsmanship understandably wasn't explored much.

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Pfft. Stop it lol. Clint didn't do a damn thing to suggest he can take Oliver in any sort of melee encounter, be it H2H, swords, or any other weapon. He barely did anything to narrow the gap. Oliver 10/10.

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@undefined: It’s a toss up. Stalemate in a very entertaining fight.

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Oliver

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Clint was cooler, that’s about all Endgame did for him besides bisecting Outriders

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@danieldaripper: Cutting them in half? That’s a pretty ridiculous feat. What makes you think Oliver can do it? Not disagreeing with you necessarily, but I don’t recall any feat for Oliver to suggest doing it.

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@danieldaripper: Cutting them in half? That’s a pretty ridiculous feat. What makes you think Oliver can do it? Not disagreeing with you necessarily, but I don’t recall any feat for Oliver to suggest doing it.

Outriders didn't have much in terms piercing durability to begin with so I don't see why he couldn't. Also swordsman of similar caliber to Oliver have cut straight through metal so flesh shouldn't be an issue.

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Oliver stomps

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Could go either way

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#48  Edited By Slade-Prime

Oliver still stomps.

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The skill gap between Oliver and Clint is probably more than the skill gap between a toddler and Clint.

Make it 3 Clints and Oliver would still likely win.

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Clint better hope this ends in sex cause there is no other way he’s winning.