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RULES

-No Superman

-No Stormbreaker or Mjolnir

- Battle to the death

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Thor solos.

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Valkyrie, Loki, and Bruce get murdered.

Thor and Hulk vs WW, Aquaman, Flash and Cyborg?

Thor’s lightning cloak has only damaged fodder everyone here has the durability to take it (besides Flash who can dodge it). WW has a direct immunity and feats to suggest she can time it.

Hulk will be dangerous though. But he can get beaten by WW. He can be stalled by the others if they work together.

6/10 DCEU mid diff. Possibly high.

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Lmao at thor soloing without sb.

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DCEU mid-high diff

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#9  Edited By MattyBoi

@kalkent said:

Lmao at thor soloing without sb.

Why? 4/5 of the league are fodder and Diana gets taken out in 1-5 punches.

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@mattyboi said:

Why? 4/5 of the league are fodder and Diana gets taken out in 1-5 punches.

It is a major reach that you think thor is going to land those punches considering Doomsday, someone who is faster than Thor, literally couldn't tag Diana without her getting her shield up. Thor's punches will easily be parried or absorbed by the shield, and eventually that sword is going to tag him, which will literally cleave right through any part of the body it hits.

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@kalkent said:
@mattyboi said:

Why? 4/5 of the league are fodder and Diana gets taken out in 1-5 punches.

It is a major reach that you think thor is going to land those punches considering Doomsday, someone who is faster than Thor, literally couldn't tag Diana without her getting her shield up. Thor's punches will easily be parried or absorbed by the shield, and eventually that sword is going to tag him, which will literally cleave right through any part of the body it hits.

Doomsday isnt faster than thor. Thor can tag iron man who casually reacts to a mach 2 tank shell. Diana's best reaction feat is mach 1 at best.

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@mattyboi said:

Doomsday isnt faster than thor. Thor can tag iron man who casually reacts to a mach 2 tank shell. Diana's best reaction feat is mach 1 at best.

And doomsday effortlessly catches Superman bullrushes which make Mach 2 act like fodder, but sure, let's just keep acting like your faulty scaling is correct. Iron Man reacting to Mach 2 blasts that travel in a straight line is much different than reacting to Thor, an unpredictable God.

I'm done with this conversation.

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#14  Edited By MattyBoi

@kalkent said:
@mattyboi said:

Doomsday isnt faster than thor. Thor can tag iron man who casually reacts to a mach 2 tank shell. Diana's best reaction feat is mach 1 at best.

And doomsday effortlessly catches Superman bullrushes which make Mach 2 act like fodder, but sure, let's just keep acting like your faulty scaling is correct. Iron Man reacting to Mach 2 blasts that travel in a straight line is much different than reacting to Thor, an unpredictable God.

I'm done with this conversation.

Feats for superman's bullrush that surpasses mach 2? And thats reaction speed not combat speed. And you can predict what a fighter in gonna do, like for example you can tell when they go for a punch when they raise their hand.

Alright.

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Diana hands Barry her sword and says “Go for their limbs” and he dismembers everyone. If you think that sounds ridiculous (which it doesn’t), just think about how it sounds saying Thor could solo with no weapon...

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#16  Edited By dark_globe

revengers solidly .

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@rijehu: thor was about to ko the hulk with punches so its not ridiculous.

Meanwhile barry in his current state is to much of a liability he will prob end up being super op couple films down. But for now he is likely to trip with the sword and cut himself

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DCEU mainly due to speed

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#20  Edited By CaptainSweatpan

Thor shoots down lightning at all of them at the same time one shotting (he momentarily koed Hela) and soloing

And Flash gets one shot by Thors lightning cloak if he somehow evades Thors lightning strike, the Asgardian zombies couldn't even get close to him

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Valkyrie can fight Aquaman on land and even beat him.

Loki can keep Batman busy and beat him.

Hulk destroys Cyborg, probably very easily.

Thor beats WW, who is the only real threat on her team, 7/10. That just leaves the Flash as extra interference but he is too inexperienced in combat and doesn’t have a lot of damage output yet that suggests he can do anything to Hulk or Thor.

Even if Thor can’t beat WW, he can fight her long enough for one of the other match-ups to end in MCU’s favour, most probably the Hulk will finish first.

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Everything would depend if Loki used his illusion properly or not.

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#23  Edited By Strike3

@rijehu:

Barry would do something like that vs techno creature fodder like Parademons, but not living beings, maybe as a last resort/seeing somebody die or something. With that narrow bridge and all, there's a much higher chances of him running, tripping, and falling off.

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Revengers.

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@rijehu: thor was about to ko the hulk with punches so its not ridiculous.

Meanwhile barry in his current state is to much of a liability he will prob end up being super op couple films down. But for now he is likely to trip with the sword and cut himself

Thor wasn't about to kill no Hulk bruh at best he was going to KO him. Don't do Hulk like that. And that took him a charged lightning punch which he isn't even going to have time do here with Diana nor AM and certainly not Flash. If you think Thor can solo base on his punch against Hulk, then Diana can solo with her sword and her feats against DD alone.

And we really have to stop low-balling Barry. I used to do the same but he actually has impressive feats. He tripped once when he was too busy being in awe of WW in the tunnels and again when he fought Superman after being surprised that his speed could be perceived. This is the same Flash who phased through Kyrptonian metal and one shot several Para demons to the point of vaporizing them. In a deleted scene, he also has a blitzing feat that would likely on shot half of the team while staggering the other half. He isn't as incompetent as people want him to be.

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@strike3 said:

@rijehu:

Barry would do something like that vs techno creature fodder like Parademons, but not living beings, maybe as a last resort/seeing somebody die or something. With that narrow bridge and all, there's a much higher chances of him running, tripping, and falling off.

If they're fighting to the death then Barry will obviously do the same. Its the context of the battle. And Barry isn't that incompetent. Using that logic, he can also just as easily knock off the member of the other team.

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Thor isn't soloing.

DCEU Team wins fairly easily.

Flash can move everyone around and even in his wildest dreams Thor can't tag him.

Diana kills Thor and Hulk gets stalled by everyone else.

Then Diana kills Hulk too.

She can outright tank Thor and Hulk's punches and practically no sell them if they're not their best.

She literally tanked punches from Doomsday.

On top of that she statues bullets.

Thor can't even hope to tag her and neither can Hulk.

Aquaman is a decent distraction for Hulk combined with Victor who can actually hurt the Hulk with his canon.

DCEU Team wins.

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The Revengers win

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#29  Edited By miekskywalker

@rijehu: when did I say thor would kill hulk? Read before you type you made false assumptions and went on a tangent

Yeah flash beat fodder everyone has. He needs feats of fighting stronger opponents he isn't up against Hawkeye and black widow

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#30  Edited By Rijehu

@miekskywalker: You right. I have no idea how I got Kill from KO. Sorry about that. But there was no tangent as everything I said still stands.

Exactly, everyone had fought fodder but we still use those feats to infer how they can be utilized against general opponents. Flash fighting fodder has literally no relevance to the sheer speed advantage he has here. Thors lightning cloak has ever only harmed fodder but people still think it will one shot everyone. Flash can rag doll both Loki and Valkyrie before they even know what happened and based upon his blitzing force that should definitely stagger Thor and Hulk at least. We also know that’s Flash can actually carry people with him and move opponents around so there’s nothing stopping him from doing that here.

He’s being backed by a team with weapons that can harm everyone on the team and tactical minds that can formulate a plan. So yes, WW can actually give him her sword and tell him to cleave, and he could

solo. Unless you think anyone on team

MCU can outmaneuver him. Again that’s one way for this battle to go.

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Revengers win Diana is really the only threat here...

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@rijehu: Flash may have pushed a truck and carried people but he is no where near enough to actually fight strong opponents. He did nothing against wolf that was 99% superman.

Let's say he gets the sword he doesnt have the strength to dismember hulk. Fenris only managed to sink its teeth into hulk. And a wolf that big would outweigh anyones strength on dceu team. (When it comes to bite force) So the sword isn't gonna do a great deal when fenris couldn't even bite off some flesh.

Loki would probably make flash run off the bridge and into the water with illusions (Smarter ones like batman/cyborg wont be able to warn him since they will be statues whilst hes running off the bridge to decoys with the sword.)

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#33  Edited By Nucleon

@kalkent: It is a major reach that you think thor is going to land those punches considering Doomsday, someone who is faster than Thor, literally couldn't tag Diana without her getting her shield up.

Doomsday was also dodged by Batman. Doomsday is neither hard to tag or to mangle with a blade. IMO Doomsday is about as fast as the Hulk, but nowhere as tough vs piercing attacks.

Thor's punches will easily be parried or absorbed by the shield, and eventually that sword is going to tag him, which will literally cleave right through any part of the body it hits.

The Valkyrie here more or less equals WW. I honestly believe the Hulk can take on the "rest of the JLA" alone and have 6/10 chances of winning it.

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Revengers win Diana is really the only threat here...

Aquaman's no slouch neither. I think he is stronger, tougher than WW. And his gear is at least as good.

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#35  Edited By Eri_Joni

Thor jumps in the water and activates lighting cloak.JL like nope.

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Revengers win Diana is the only threat

@richubs: You ahould start writing fan fiction it seems you’re particularly good at it

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#37  Edited By Eri_Joni

@richubs: Diana doesn't statue bullets dude.

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@richubs: Oh cute you actually thought you were someone worth arguing with if i were i’d stick to fan fiction

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@eri123:

It was an exaggeration. She still sees bullets in slo mo.

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@richubs said:

Thor isn't soloing.

DCEU Team wins fairly easily.

Flash can move everyone around and even in his wildest dreams Thor can't tag him.

Diana kills Thor and Hulk gets stalled by everyone else.

lol at Diana killing thor

Then Diana kills Hulk too.

same as above

She can outright tank Thor and Hulk's punches and practically no sell them if they're not their best.

no she can't. She is massively lacking in physical piwer

She literally tanked punches from Doomsday.

no. It was her shield

On top of that she statues bullets.

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this disagrees

Thor can't even hope to tag her and neither can Hulk.

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yeah right. Lol at Thor not hoping to tag her

Aquaman is a decent distraction for Hulk combined with Victor who can actually hurt the Hulk with his canon.

so you think Valkyrie is going to stand there?

DCEU Team wins.

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@nucleon:

Doomsday was also dodged by Batman. Doomsday is neither hard to tag or to mangle with a blade. IMO Doomsday is about as fast as the Hulk, but nowhere as tough vs piercing attacks.

The Valkyrie here more or less equals

Aquaman's no slouch neither. I think he is stronger, tougher than WW. And his gear is at least as good.

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@darkthunder:

With her sword why can't she kill him or Hulk when she's much faster?

She has her shield here. And she's fast enough to dodge using shield with Doomsday who's much much faster than Thor and Hulk

How does that disagree. And I've already said I was exaggerating. She can see them in v slow mo. We saw that in JL back scene already.

What's that supposed to prove? That's Diana from the first movie. Its been hundred years since then and she's clearly faster. She can dodge and keep up With Doomsday and tag Clark atleast. She can also see bullets in slo mo. Thor and Hulk aren't in the same speed bracket even.

I don't see Valkyrie doing much.

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@richubs: With her sword why can't she kill him or Hulk when she's much faster?

Because the Hulk's too tough. If Fenris can't do it, WW cannot neither.

She has her shield here. And she's fast enough to dodge using shield with Doomsday who's much much faster than Thor and Hulk

No, he ain't. His striking power is also quite mundane, and nothing that is a game-changer; Name me one character Doomsday actually hurt.

How does that disagree. And I've already said I was exaggerating. She can see them in v slow mo. We saw that in JL back scene already.

No, WW doesn't "see them in slomo" - you are. You are because the directors chose to use slomo so you can be amazed and delighted; As for these characters, they are fast enough to cope with normal speeds - half of the time, in her case.

What's that supposed to prove? That's Diana from the first movie. Its been hundred years since then and she's clearly faster. She can dodge and keep up With Doomsday and tag Clark atleast. She can also see bullets in slo mo. Thor and Hulk aren't in the same speed bracket even.

Batman, undoubtely because of thousands of years of experience, can dodge Doomsday too. You know what? I think Doomsday's over-rated.

I don't see Valkyrie doing much.

Why?

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@nucleon:

Fenris hasn't cut anyone other than Hulk to begin with. Doomsday is much more tougher then Hulk and has taken a nuke to the face. Yet WW cut him. She'd cut through both of them like butter.

He literally hurts Clark multiple times. Clark gets winded by his hit. Clark gets slammed on by a statue by him and is down afterwards. Then thrown like a toy.

His striking is much better

Yes she does see them. Her eyes literally follow the bullets as we saw in WW. She sees them in slo mo and is a low level speedster.

Why do people keep bringing up travel speeds? Doomsday still didn't know how to blitz or fly.

WW dodged punches from him and puts up shields fast enough to dodge the blows. That's where it counts.

Valkyrie is useless against given we have Aquaman in here who can fairly easily kill her.

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@richubs: Fenris hasn't cut anyone other than Hulk to begin with. Doomsday is much more tougher then Hulk and has taken a nuke to the face. Yet WW cut him. She'd cut through both of them like butter.

You know that ships with 2 inches steel armor also resisted a direct nuke at the Bikini Atoll tests? And yet these ship can be pierced by a generic 4-unch gun, at any range. How do you explain that?

When all's said and done, DD has been maimed ny a mid-level brick wielding what's next to a generic sword. You won't see that happening to the Hulk - no way. There's no way an Asgardian being like Valkyrie is chopping off any part of the Hulk, hair included.

He literally hurts Clark multiple times. Clark gets winded by his hit. Clark gets slammed on by a statue by him and is down afterwards. Then thrown like a toy.

His striking is much better

His strikes didn't produce sht on either Superman or WW. Fixed.

Yes she does see them. Her eyes literally follow the bullets as we saw in WW. She sees them in slo mo and is a low level speedster.

No; She doesn't have a "switch" that enables her to stop time - and neither does supes; nobody does that out of speed, except maybe speedsters, if they are surnatural. The slomo you saw is one of the director's power, not WW's.

Valkyrie is useless against given we have Aquaman in here who can fairly easily kill her.

Peers is pretty much what they are.

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Huh. MCU team might actually have a shot at winning this one. Finally lol

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I’m failing to see how the DCEU doesn’t waltz through this.