MCU Revenger trio vs Endgame trio

Nobody is throwing that term around to make sense. Being large doesn't mean anything, it didn't touch Thor, so what you are saying is irrelevant. Hela was the focal point, so almost, if not all, of it's power was focused on her.

Yes, Thor can his control lightning and he would want it to hit his future-self and Cap. Lol, it's like saying 616-Thor can't hurt Ultimate Thor or any other Thor with lightning because they control it.

@tonystark6999: Prove it didn't hit Thor then. You are in fact throwing that term around in an attempt to sound like you have an argument.

You sound as if you seek attention. Are you blind or are you an alt of isocom79? or both?

@tonystark6999: Where in that picture does it show Thor not getting hit?

Save the petty attempt at insulting.

You are blind. The reason my eyes can see Thor but can't see Hela is that Thor wasn't hit by the lightning because he isn't blind like you, despite having a single eye he can still see better than you and knows who he has to attack and who he has to not.

You don't care? Is that why you are responding to an argument that was made several days ago?

@tonystark6999: This is a debate website I'm here debating. Better question why are you so sensitive?

Secondly I'm the scan (you're saying you can see Thor but not Hela) yet the lightning is hitting the person in that scan so why can't 2 other characters with the exact same powers replicate that? I mean the Lightning is clearly touching Thor in that scan

@tonystark6999: This is a debate website I'm here debating. Better question why are you so sensitive?

Secondly in the scan you're saying you can see Thor but not Hela yet the lightning is hitting the person in that scan so why can't 2 other characters with the exact same powers replicate that? I mean the Lightning is clearly touching Thor in that scan.

I don't think so.

Nobody is sensitive. You started it first.

They can't, one is weaker and the other is inexperienced + weaker. The lightning isn't touching Thor, it pretty much seems like it's touching him because of the angle and clearly see Thor, but not Hela.

@tonystark6999: I started what? A debate? Duh. You're the one who got upset and started using Ad Hominem if that isn't being sensitive then I don't know what is.

So your argument for it not touching Thor is a scan that shows it touching Thor and then the excuse that the angle is off? Ah I see.

You started it first, you said I am bringing that word to show everyone I have an argument and make sense.

It isn't touching Thor, you are just too blind and that's not being sensitive, that's speaking the truth.

@tonystark6999: Saying you're throwing a term around isn't Ad Hominem which is what you've been doing. And I've already proven you had been using that term incorrectly.

Calling your argument "facts" changes nothing my last post still stands.

No, it doesn't. Thor clearly wasn't hit by the lightning. You started it first. You haven't proven anything. Thor's target was Hela, hence she was the focal point.

@tonystark6999: repeating what you've failed to prove doesn't make it fact either.

I showed you evidence, but you are ignoring it because you can't disprove it. Take the L.

@tonystark6999: You showed a scan that shows the lightning touching Thor which proves me right.

Keep the L it belongs to you.

No, it isn't touching Thor, you are too blind to see it. It doesn't belong to me, it belongs to you.

Where is it touching Thor? You are just another low-post attention-seeker.

@tonystark6999: In that circle you so conveniently placed for me.

No, he isn't touched. As I said, you just sound like another low-post attention-seeker. Are you doing this to increase your post-count?

@tonystark6999: Like I said stop whining. It's clearly touching him.

@tonystark6999: that's not even the first time his own lighting has touched him which hurting others he's clearly not effected by his own electricity.

I don't care. What matters to me here is that he wasn't hit, otherwise, you would not have seen him, just like Hela.

No, the contrast is clear there. It's not touching him. Go and ask anyone.

@tonystark6999: He was hit it was a massive attack and he was within a couple feet of the target. And like I said he has numerous attack where his lightning is covering him or on him in some way and it doesn't nothing because it doesn't effect him.

@tonystark6999:

She was definitely hurt by it?? Based on what? There is no enough evidence to draw that conclusion. The force of the lightning threw her off the balcony and she slams her body on the floor and the scene is immediately cut so where did you get definitive proof she was harmed by the lightning.

No, he wasn't. The picture clearly shows that. Stop tagging me, if you can't even see properly. People like you particularly create accounts on forums to seek attention from others or for time-pass aimlessly.

Because she appeared to be unconscious, it would have not happened if she wasn't affected, she would have instantly gotten up, but the script doesn't say that; it says something else.

@tonystark6999: You're wrong. If you don't want to debate get of this site. If you don't want me to tag you don't try and debate with me just admit your wrong and quit.

@tonystark6999: Secondly you didn't post a single counter for the numerous other times he's unaffected by his lightning.

@tonystark6999:

"Appears to be unconscious" was from the script-a text. Visual representation trumps written text. Superman fell from high altitude and crashed into the top of a mountain and fell into snow, was he hurt because he couldn't get up instantly? No. Also Cap marvel fell also from high altitude and crashed into a store was she also hurt because she didn't get up instantly? No. If the scene had shown her unable to get up after a couple of seconds then you can reasonably say she was hurt and perhaps unconscious but she didn't even last 2seconds before the scene was cut to Thor surfing lightning. The only way she could have gotten up instantly from such a force throwing her from that balcony was if she's a rubber ball which unfortunately she isn't.

The low ball for Valkyrie is Preety badThe low ball for Valkyrie is Preety bad

Do people forget she is faster that Ragnarok Thor who is faster than worthy cap who faster than endgame Thor

She Has a weapon which can cut any of the team here,and is more than durable to hits from anyone here

Ragnarok Thor beats endgame Thor, endgame thor was a disgrace,slow as hell and show no single worthy skill using his hammer or SB, while Ragnarok Thor is faster, skilled, and way better use of lighting offensively and defensively

Cap vs hulk goes 50-50 for me , hulk as taken hits from the hammer and taken lighting, as soon as he gets hold of cap he done,but if caps goes for the thanos combo I doubt hulk is taking that

Iron man is dying to val,his repulsure is doing Jack shit to val and the moments she goes cqc he dies, to fast and one shot weapon

@tonystark6999:

As opposed to a high post count attention seeker?

Do you still not recognize that Thor himself seconds later when asked by Loki to "hit her with a lightning blast" Thor said "I just hit her with the biggest lightning blast in the history of lightning"..."it did nothing"...I'm pretty sure the "it did nothing" is absolutely unequivocally positively completely and totally evidence that she was not Ko'd or even hurt by it.

Yes, but none of them appeared to be unconscious. And no, Visual representation is made according to what is written in the text.

Even, Comics Thor, who is a way better lightning manipulator has been hurt by his own lightning and MCU Thor has never been hit by his own lightning. You are the one who responded to me.

I will not take words seriously from someone, who left the scene and was unaware of her situation.

@tonystark6999: I stand by what I've said you haven't countered it Thor coats himself in his own lightning all the time and is just fine.

This is 616 or Ultimate comics this is the MCU and the MCU is different and from what we've seen you have zero evidence that Thor's lighting would hurt himself.

@tonystark6999: I responded to you yes because no engaged in an debate. You on the other hand have done nothing but whine about it. If you don't like it stop replying I have no problem continuing it's you who doesn't want to.

There is absolutely no way for the Revengers to win.

@tonystark6999:

According to the avengers script, thor dropping his hammer shaked a mountain so did that also happen visually?

Hela may have been unconscious or not, there isn't any reliable way to tell because the text wasn't definitive like you are claiming.

@tonystark6999:

Right, so you accept part of the script that mildly supports your positions, despite not being verified by anything on camera, to part of the script that is explicitly stated on camera completely dismantling your assumption?

Boy, you said Thor's lightning can't hurt him, show me GiFs to prove it can't.

Where was it shown? It's definitive enough, if she appeared to be unconscious, then it means it hurt her.

Kid, most of what's written in the script is shown on-screen. The scenes are made according to what's written on the script.

@tonystark6999: he's literally covered in it half the time "boy".

So? That doesn't mean shit. I guess Attack Potency equates to durability because the energy blasts cover their hands and come from inside of there bodies. What you see are some lightning sparks moving around his body, not bolts of lightning, which he summons from the skies.

@tonystark6999: He summons them from the skies and then absorbs them at times too lmao.

In Ragnork he literally strikes himself with lighting to change into his battle armour and don't tell me it wasn't actually lightning because it burt the ground.

I'm backing the Revengers.

Thor's fighting would basically end up being a stalemate. Gungir should be every bit as powerful as Stormbreaker in combat - and even moreso outside of it.

So it would all come down to Valkyrie and the Hulk against Iron Man and Captain America. I don't see what Steve showed wielding Mjolnir that suggests he can down Banner. He landed his best, clean hits on Thanos but could not deal any amount of lasting damage whatsoever. And it is not like Thanos' superiority over the Hulk is purely physical, not to any important degree. As for Tony, I think him fighting Val could go either way, but I don't think he has the firepower to drop an elite Asgardian before ending up in close range for a majority, where he cannot win. I'd take her, esspecially with her winged steed in play.

Revengers win. Gungir 2 shot Luffy it will definitely one-shot Tony and can 2 shot everyone else

Where? Show me any GiF or at least send a link.