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#1 Posted by Mrsportsguy13 (135 posts) - - Show Bio

MCU Rescue vs MCU Iron Monger, MCU War Machine, and MCU Whiplash.

Pepper gets a week of prep. Team also gets a week.

To make this fair, Rhodey only gets feats from Iron Man 2.

Battle takes place where Iron Man fought Iron Monger at the end of the first film.

Who wins?

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#2 Posted by Tony_Shark (2126 posts) - - Show Bio

We have to take two things into consideration:

- MCU Rescue was made in 2023. Which means that least the tech in the suit is probably similar to the nano-tech that Iron Man has. She uses detachable parts of her suit to amp attacks. This alone can put her above the older suits in previous movies.

- She has ONE really good feat. Shortly, after all the female members gather, a Leviathan waves comes for the team. She seems to charge a casual, two-hand repulse beam and ONE SHOTS on the Leviathans. Similar to how Thor one shotted one of them in the first Avengers movie (when he shoots lightning from the tower).

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#4 Posted by ANTHP2000 (28769 posts) - - Show Bio

There's no need for a handicap. Rhodey would lose to Pepper's suit even with his best showings. Whiplash and Iron Monger are legit fodder.

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#5 Posted by ScotticusRex (647 posts) - - Show Bio

Suit's way too advanced. Rescue wins handily.

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#6 Posted by Richubs (5909 posts) - - Show Bio

Rescue is basically bleeding edge it stomps.

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#7 Posted by Sy8000 (35756 posts) - - Show Bio

I literally can't remember Pepper doing anything standout.

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#8 Posted by LuminousHydra (1007 posts) - - Show Bio

@sy8000: she one-shotted a leviathan

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#9 Posted by Sy8000 (35756 posts) - - Show Bio

@sy8000: she one-shotted a leviathan

I just remember her blasting one. I honestly got the impression that was more about the leviathan being fodder than anything.

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#10 Posted by GeorgeWBush (12506 posts) - - Show Bio

Pepper blows them up

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#11 Posted by Ready_4_Madness (17223 posts) - - Show Bio

@sy8000: yeah Leviathan didn’t do anything significant in Endgame.

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#12 Edited by LuminousHydra (1007 posts) - - Show Bio

@sy8000: it scales from A1 iron man.

He couldn't penetrate the leviathan armor with his A1 suit. The same suit that could fight Thor. So by that logic, rescue should be able to fodderize the iron man villains.

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#13 Edited by NWgzsjUwhM96Y2 (4426 posts) - - Show Bio

@ready_4_madness: @sy8000: They are the same creatures. No reason to assume thay are weaker in EG. Heroes got much stronger over the years. Rescue stomps.

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#14 Posted by Ready_4_Madness (17223 posts) - - Show Bio

@nwgzsjuwhm96y2: yeah and they were one shotted by both Hulk and Thor, they were never all that powerful to begin with.

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#15 Edited by Noone1996 (12123 posts) - - Show Bio

Rescue was wrecking Leviathans, Outriders, and made Thanos grunt in pain. This is not close.

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#16 Posted by o0Deadman0o (568 posts) - - Show Bio

Potts takes out the trash for Tony.

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#17 Edited by NWgzsjUwhM96Y2 (4426 posts) - - Show Bio

@ready_4_madness: They were flying through buildings w/o problem. Their armor could not be damaged by iron mans weapons and earth metals can't break/cut their armor. They are low tier kaiju but still strong for MCU. Rescue wins.

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#18 Posted by TonyStark6999 (2713 posts) - - Show Bio
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#20 Posted by TonyStark6999 (2713 posts) - - Show Bio
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#21 Posted by Ready_4_Madness (17223 posts) - - Show Bio

@nwgzsjuwhm96y2: we’ve got to a point in comic book movies where flying through buildings isn’t really a big deal though. Any mid-tier character shouldn’t really have much trouble with them. And didn’t Iron Man blow up the Leviathan that Hulk one shotted?

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#22 Posted by o0Deadman0o (568 posts) - - Show Bio

@tonystark6999: i should've been more specific then. He definitely is beast.

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#23 Posted by FirstFirmament (433 posts) - - Show Bio

She shouldn't be that great with the suit considering her lack of experience, but that didn't seem to hinder her ability in EG.

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#24 Posted by Contingency (8776 posts) - - Show Bio

@firstfirmament: Common misconception, Pepper knows a not irrelevant amount of information about Tony's suits since Ironman 1 (Was his assistant duh and helped him with Arc Reactor once) and in Ironman 3 she actually uses one of his suits and even knows more about them than before (Being IRONMAN'S WIFE).

There's almost a decade since the start of the films to End Game for her to have learned how to effectively use the suits not including any A.I that may have been present in the suit, and so her lack of experience is pretty much a non factor considering she was probably one of the strongest female hero's in the battle and casually fodderized everyone except Thanos.

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#25 Posted by AndyKaplan1 (65 posts) - - Show Bio

Pepper one shots them

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#26 Edited by NWgzsjUwhM96Y2 (4426 posts) - - Show Bio

@ready_4_madness: But due to their large size leviathans would be destroying a much larger part of the buildings and would need to overcome much higher force.

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#27 Posted by RabumAlal (5318 posts) - - Show Bio

Whiplash solos, what a guy.

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#28 Posted by eri123 (1967 posts) - - Show Bio

Pepper didn't one shot a Leviathan,it was a Necroship.

Pepper wins.

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#29 Posted by deactivated-5cf823e3012e8 (449 posts) - - Show Bio

Pepper would vaporize all three. There's no contest.

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#30 Posted by FirstFirmament (433 posts) - - Show Bio
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#31 Posted by darthvaderrocks (1848 posts) - - Show Bio

@noone1996: When did Rescue ever make Thanos scream? She, Shuri and Hope all blasted Thanos back and all he did was grunt which proves nothing.

OT: When did Rescue one shot a Leviathan?

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#32 Posted by darthvaderrocks (1848 posts) - - Show Bio

@ready_4_madness: Iron Man blew up the Leviathan's exposed skin. He couldn't penetrate it's armor by himself though. Even when he himself ends up blowing a Leviathan to pieces (again) laster in the movie it's due to him destroying it from the inside.

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#33 Posted by Tony_Shark (2126 posts) - - Show Bio

@darthvaderrocks: Find a video of the female Avengers moment during Endgame.

Theres a moment where you see a wave come at them and she casually shoots a repulsor blast that destroys one.

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#34 Posted by darthvaderrocks (1848 posts) - - Show Bio

@tony_shark: Just watched it and she shoots at it but there was never an indication she one shot it. In fact, when she shoots at it it continues to maintain it's flight. Only ships she one shot were the Necrocrafts.

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#35 Posted by EternalDarkFury (2703 posts) - - Show Bio

Rescue.

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#36 Edited by Noone1996 (12123 posts) - - Show Bio

@darthvaderrocks: Yes, I'm sure Hope and Shuri's combined energy made a huge impact on Thanos screaming grunting.

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#37 Posted by darthvaderrocks (1848 posts) - - Show Bio

@noone1996: Why did you reply to this 12 days later?

Anyway that wasn't a scream. Thanos screaming is him getting his arm chopped off.

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#38 Posted by Iron_Tiger (929 posts) - - Show Bio

This is the first time I'm seeing Pepper's Hero name as Rescue. Was this stated in the movie and I missed it? Also, she fodderizes her opponents handily.

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#39 Posted by Noone1996 (12123 posts) - - Show Bio

@darthvaderrocks: Fine, grunting. I'm going to edit my comment. Point is, her blasts were hurting him.

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#40 Posted by Oraculi (3921 posts) - - Show Bio

@iron_tiger: It was never stated in the movies but we all assume it is rescue since well she looks like MARVEL RESCUE and is MARVEL Rescue in every way but name.

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#41 Posted by darthvaderrocks (1848 posts) - - Show Bio

@noone1996: I think "hurt" is giving all 3 of them too much credit. But that wouldn't really be a Rescue feat as Hope and Shuri fired at the same time and hit him at the same time as Rescue did. So I'm not sure you can really call that a feat for any of them individually.

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#42 Posted by Noone1996 (12123 posts) - - Show Bio

@darthvaderrocks: It was a shared feat, but come on. I think we know who made him grunt in pain.

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#43 Posted by The_Red_Devil (5075 posts) - - Show Bio

Pepper should win , if Rhodes got feats from other movies , then team might have won.

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#44 Edited by stumerica (243 posts) - - Show Bio

@anthp2000: Pepper most certainly needs this handicap, because she's not beating Rhodes with his best feats.

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#45 Posted by darthvaderrocks (1848 posts) - - Show Bio
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#46 Edited by Noone1996 (12123 posts) - - Show Bio

@darthvaderrocks: So you think without Hope's and Shuri's beams Thanos would have no-sold the attack?

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#47 Posted by darthvaderrocks (1848 posts) - - Show Bio

@noone1996: Pepper's best solo feat is destroying a Necrocraft. Thanos has tanked much better attacks.

I mean what they did isn't even impressive. They fire and he immediately is able to stop Carol from reaching the van. And I don't take a little grunt seriously since the man grunts when he himself punches people. It's cool they knocked him back but that's all they did.

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#48 Posted by IndomitableRegal (16601 posts) - - Show Bio

Whiplash and Iron Monger are essentially fodder. With Rhodes being limited, he's not gonna give the team the win. Potts wins.

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#49 Posted by MattyBoi (1198 posts) - - Show Bio

Rescue was wrecking Leviathans, Outriders, and made Thanos grunt in pain. This is not close.

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#50 Posted by Noone1996 (12123 posts) - - Show Bio

@darthvaderrocks: Thanos does not always grunt in pain when he's hit and Pepper's best feat was actually wrecking a Leviathan. But hey man, if you think that Shuri's blasts (which were casually deflected by Corvus) and Hope's blasts (which were mainly used for KO'ing humans) are high enough to also make Thanos grunt in pain, then I guess we can agree to disagree. Either that or you can show me clips of practically anybody doing it. Off the top of my head, a weakened Thor at the beginning of Infinity War couldn't hurt him with a piece of metal that he hit Thanos in the head with, Spider-Man could not get him to grunt, Iron Man's explosions didn't make him grunt, Starlord's blasts were no-sold, Dr. Strange's energy sword was caught and no-sold, Bucky's bullets were no-sold, etc. Also, I know you probably think I'm making a big deal out of nothing, but the way he grunts in pain seems louder and longer than usual.