When you see "MCU" Iron man, that means it's all clear and simple. He wins. MCU Iron man does not lose. He fought Thor with one of his regular suit and Thor couldn't put him down for more than 3 minutes. Then he fought Hulk and smashed him. He fought Ultron. He was also destroying Cap and Bucky 2v1 with damaged suit. Now he fought Thanos 1v1 in a very chivalrous way, so...
MCU Rematch: Iron Man vs Hulk
When you see "MCU" Iron man, that means it's all clear and simple. He wins. MCU Iron man does not lose. He fought Thor with one of his regular suit and Thor couldn't put him down for more than 3 minutes. Then he fought Hulk and smashed him. He fought Ultron. He was also destroying Cap and Bucky 2v1 with damaged suit. Now he fought Thanos 1v1 in a very chivalrous way, so...
Thor crushed his arm with his bare hands. He used the same method which he would later use to fight Cull- bullrushing and flying around. Anyways, I get your point.
When you see "MCU" Iron man, that means it's all clear and simple. He wins. MCU Iron man does not lose. He fought Thor with one of his regular suit and Thor couldn't put him down for more than 3 minutes. Then he fought Hulk and smashed him. He fought Ultron. He was also destroying Cap and Bucky 2v1 with damaged suit. Now he fought Thanos 1v1 in a very chivalrous way, so...
See, but he did lose..........against the guys in your last two sentences...
All these posts using Thor and Cap as excuses to why Thanos can't be used as a measuring stick is pure bullsh*t.
We don't know if Thanos beat Thor himself. He had a city sized ship, an army and a bunch of mid-high tier henchmen. For all we know he could have blasted Thor from space using his ship and have the Black Order finish him off.
Cap was casually one-punched by Thanos. So was suited up Panther. Hulk took at least a dozen punches. It scales up perfectly.
Finally, all the crap Iron Man tanked in New York and then on Titan puts his durability at least on par with Hulk, if not higher.
I think they lowballed hulk badly to show hype for Thanos.
If we use pre infinity war feats i dont see why hulk doesnt body him.
I still don’t understand how people can reasonably believe that Tony could legitimately beat Hulk. His Hulkbuster had 11 power cores IIRC and it still couldn’t beat hulk without lots of context that isn’t applicable in a battle forum fight as well as multiple repairs.
Yes, Tony did well against Thanos. Important narrative context is that Hulk was used to big Thanos up, Tony was in the last ditch effort fight, and Thanos fought him MUCH more efficiently than he fought Tony.
I still don’t understand how people can reasonably believe that Tony could legitimately beat Hulk. His Hulkbuster had 11 power cores IIRC and it still couldn’t beat hulk without lots of context that isn’t applicable in a battle forum fight as well as multiple repairs.
Yes, Tony did well against Thanos. Important narrative context is that Hulk was used to big Thanos up, Tony was in the last ditch effort fight, and Thanos fought him MUCH more efficiently than he fought Tony.
What is stopping Stark from cutting off the Hulks head? He literally put the beat down on Thanos, who is basically Hulk + Kung Fu, for a few moments.
People you have to remember this is a movie, not a real life documentation of events
Seeing Hulk "strongest Avenger" get his ass whooped in the first five minutes quickly asserts Thanos's physical threat. However, if, as the movie went on, everyone kept losing to him it would be boring
Cool fight scenes >> powerscaling in terms of importance for filmmakers
At first I thought Iron Man was being exaggerated but on rewatch I'm actually thinking Iron Man will win this.
Tony, rather comfortably too.
Thanos toyed with the Hulk without the use of any stones. Tony made a 4 stone Thanos bleed.
That's not even impressive. Especially when you consider he didnt use 1 stone to kill or to amp his durability
Even if you ignore their respective confrontations against Thanos, Tony is still on the same tier. The shit he tanked throughout Infinity War is EASILY on par with Hulk's very best durability feats, and his repulsors and physical strength have also gotten huge upgrades
Hulk shreds the suit to pieces. He couldn't do anything to Cull, let alone Hulk. Using Thanos as a measuring stick to his power is faulty when Tony didn't really do anything to Thanos to begin with... other than get badly rag-dolled and made fun of by Thanos who in comparison put in effort to take out Hulk with clear visible struggle when trying to overpower Hulk with raw strenght.
People really think Ironman is beating Hulk? L M A O
Hulk is literally the only person Thanos went all out on throughout the entire movie so you can't use ABC logic to determine who's stronger, especially when Thanos is the jobbing Titan too. I love how he can crush the tesseract but repeatedly gets his arms and hands held open by shit like a piece of cloth or webbing or is Spiderman hulk tier now since he can stop attacks from the alleged Hulk level Cull Obsidian?
Iron Man. Hulk's only real advantage is raw lifting strength IMO.
Really, you think so? I feel like Iron Man doesn't really have an answer to Hulk just pounding on him like he did Thor in Ragnarok
Iron Man is stronger than Thor(or at least than Thor was there). He has far greater versatility as well and a limited healing factor. Most importantly he has higher striking than Thor did without lightning. Thanos is just a much better version of Hulk IMO. If Iron Man uses the same attacks he did on Thanos than its going to do a lot more to Hulk.
His durability feats are really good too. The meteor along with Cull's strike are pretty significant. I think he can eat a lot of Hulk's regular strikes. He'd only really put Stark in a very bad position quickly if he used that move he did on Surtur. That would mess up the suit. But I doubt that will happen.
Iron Man is stronger than Thor(or at least than Thor was there).
I'm pretty sure Thor was massively weakened from being beat up at that point in time. And Tony only hit harder through a combo he can't pull off in most fights.
He has far greater versatility as well and a limited healing factor.
I don't think his versatility can do a hole lot to Hulk. The only reason he tagged Cull with the repulsors was because Cull was slowly walking forward. Compare that to Hulk's run or how he leaped at Thor in Ragnarok. Iron Man is just completely outmatched in strength and I can't imagine Ironman withstanding this
That's like Thanos's beating to me, except the constant pounding from that angle would hit maybe harder and would destroy the armor faster.
Most importantly he has higher striking than Thor did without lightning.
I don't see that tbh
Thanos is just a much better version of Hulk IMO. If Iron Man uses the same attacks he did on Thanos than its going to do a lot more to Hulk.
They're different in certain ways tho. Hulk is far more likely to abuse his speed and especially leaping as well as manhandle Iron Man with raw strength, something Hulk wouldn't do. I would also add that if Thanos fought Iron Man the way he fought Hulk, Iron Man would be dead in seconds, instead he stalled, allowed Iron Man to fly, etc. Something that gives him more of an advantage then just grapping him and pounding on him like Hulk would
His durability feats are really good too. The meteor along with Cull's strike are pretty significant. I think he can eat a lot of Hulk's regular strikes. He'd only really put Stark in a very bad position quickly if he used that move he did on Surtur. That would mess up the suit. But I doubt that will happen.
His durability feats are good, but I don't think they are good enough to take a barrage of hits from Hulk. Feats like sending Ultron flying and the Leviathan punch are very impressive imo, much more so then Iron Man's durability feats.
@kevd4wg: The only differences I can think between Thanos and the Hulk is that the former is far more skilled, not mindless and physically superior. He gave Banner a much worse beatdown beacuse he could, IIRC the Russos stated that he was not holding back against Tony because he considered him a real threat to his plan. Tony just didn't allow him to lay such a beatdown.
And the hulk punched him repeatedly and didn't make him bleed. Tony did.
@anthp2000 said:
@kevd4wg: The only differences I can think between Thanos and the Hulk is that the former is far more skilled, not mindless and physically superior. He gave Banner a much worse beatdown beacuse he could, IIRC the Russos stated that he was not holding back against Tony because he considered him a real threat to his plan. Tony just didn't allow him to lay such a beatdown.
And the hulk punched him repeatedly and didn't make him bleed. Tony did.
I don't think so. I mean, Thanos is for sure stronger, more durable, and more skilled then Hulk, but he lacks the leaps that can make Hulk so formidable. Just one kick or punch like this is going to put Iron man way off balance
Then if you factor in that unlike Thanos, Hulk can leap on to his opponents for a blitz of sort(think Surtur, Thor). There's no reason he can't do the same to Iron Man and just start tearing him to pieces. Iron Man may be good at range, but if he engages in CQC, he's going to get torn apart. As for making Thanos bleed, that was with a very specific maneuver that he can't just replicate in any fight, plus that's all it did, make Thanos bleed a little.
I'm siding with hulk. I feel like the reason he was taken out of the movie was because thanos was the only one who could beat him and go toe to toe with him. While Tony did do better against thanos I don't think that proves iron mans dominance as neither did much to thanos. The difference being is Tony had more to offer than strength and durability whereas that is all hulk had to offer, so since thanos was both stronger and more skilled than hulk this allowed him to steam roll hulk. Tony's versatility allowed him to land the combo he landed, but overall he only go a drop of blood from thanos which isn't much.
I don't think Tony is a peer to Thor in terms of strength or power. The hulk has gone toe to toe with Thor on two occasions. I don't see Tony as that powerful or being able to drop the hulk.
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