Cain has all of his film feats
WHO WINS
I'm afraid Quicksilver isn't strong enough to put a dent on Cain and the second he gets tagged he's done for
I'm afraid Quicksilver isn't strong enough to put a dent on Cain and the second he gets tagged he's done for
@mossbeard: Juggernaut. Quicksilver can't hurt him so he just outmaneuvers him for a while until Juggs gets one good hit in.
@lilbroomstick: I don't remember him confronting Tony. He moved Thor though but it's not like it's hard to move Thor in the MCU.
@lilbroomstick: He didn't do any damage to either of them. He pushed Thor a little and never fought Iron Man.
@lilbroomstick: I still doubt Quicksilver has the power to bring him down.
@gangorca: Fair enough, but he can hurt him probably considering even Spider-Man has strength feats that kind of dwarve his apart from breaking part of the bridge.
@lilbroomstick: He never punchef him though, he just pushed him at max speed.
Also like you said is far more difficult to move someone with a headbutt than with a bullrush(like QS did) so if even Iron Man could move him with a headbutt it's not that impressive to move him with a bullrush.
@danii79: That doesn't discredit anything though. It shows Iron Man(who could rip apart tanks and move multi-thousand ton helicarrier rotors with no strain in his arms) headbutts with less force than Quicksilver's bullrush. Your argument would only work if I was comparing how hard Iron Man could headbutt to how hard Quicksilver headbutts. Anyway Juggernaut struggled to swing a bus so that type of hit should rock him.
@lilbroomstick: So if you think Iron Man with the Mark VI is a multi-thousand tonner and he had to build an armor specifically to fight the Hulk because he would have got stomped in that armor I guess you think Hulk is like a 100k tonner.
@lilbroomstick: He has given Cap a nice toss. But he has nothing worth bringing for the two you mentioned.
He bumped Thor.
And he has smashed apart Ultron bots. Who should be more durable than they seem...
But nothing that Jugg should trouble with.
Quicksilver also has some calcs that can put him just short of mach 4. The actor weights 181lbs. Doing numbers to find what a full body strike at a speed round up from MCU QS tells us a likely max damage output for him. To see if his top known speed under his full body of force can manage Jugg.
Force= mass x acceleration (mps)
Mach 4 into Metres per second (MPS)= 1,372 mps
181(lbs) x 1,372(mps)= 248,332
Into metric tons. = 112.6415
This means that QS should be peaking a lower area of 100+ tons.
This is not enough to down Jugg. It should, however, be enough to do a nice hit.
This shouldn't be enough to deal with Jugg, even after several hits, as Jugg didn't seem bothered much by Colossus breaking Juggs fingers and stabbing Jugg in the eye. Even by the end of their fight Jugg was mostly fine.
QS could still get a win if the environment gives him some good enough means to win, as we have seen Jugg defeated by a relatively simple strategy. QS won't get the majority out of this though. And an argument can be made for how the strategy didn't even keep Jugg down.
@crimson_comet: Nice analysis, although I'd argue someone who has shown better strength than Juggernaut effecting Thor less than Quicksilver would allow Quicksilver to eventually put him down. That's just my opinion.
@lilbroomstick: For sure. Its honestly very possible that QS can output enough force to down Jugg. We just didn't get enough showings to really see what the mad-lad could do. Bumping Thor like that could really speak volumes for QS' potential.
Though consistently and from what we can quantify, QS should trouble [greatly] here.
Stalemate, QS isn’t putting him down and people are dreaming if they think Juggs will ever tag Quicksilver.
Both have like 3 minor feats each.
Quicksilver lacks the damage output to put Juggs down. The moment Juggs gets his hands on Quickie, game over.
Most likely a stalemate now that I think about it. Unless we scale Quicksilver off of Iron Man Mark IV
@lilbroomstick: It won't really make that big of a difference, when Juggs can't hit QS but QS can really do nothing to him
@authentical: How does QS hurt him?
@theone34gg: The Helicarier Rotor feat that Mark IV did shows a lot more strength than I've seen from Colossus or Juggernaut so far despite them being bigger than Iron Man.
Quicksilver can scale to hit harder than someone who can move thousands of tons, I think that would make a big difference.
@theone34gg: The Helicarier Rotor feat that Mark IV did shows a lot more strength than I've seen from Colossus or Juggernaut so far despite them being bigger than Iron Man.
fair. Yet what did we even get to see out of Juggs or Colossus?
Quicksilver can scale to hit harder than someone who can move thousands of tons, I think that would make a big difference.
Huh?
@theone34gg: Iron Man's headbutt should be even stronger than his push. Yet he ran up to Thor and his headbutt effected him less than Quicksilver's attack.
Colossus and Juggernaut can get stronger, but for now we can only use the feats they have. If Quicksilver doesn't scale off of Iron Man then it's a stalemate because he can't do anything to Juggernaut and Juggernaut can never tag him.
@lilbroomstick: So Quick Silvers Thor feat would be enough to take Juggernaut down?
@theone34gg: At least in theory it should.
@lilbroomstick: Possible, yet unlikely.
@theone34gg: Speedblitz.
@authentical: Not formidable enough to stagger a bridge busting Juggernaut
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