MCU Odin vs the MCU/DCEU verses

Odin, mighty All-Father of Asgard, realizes that the moment he stopped spilling blood across the realms was the same moment everybody stopped giving him respek. To prevent his self-esteem from degrading as well (atleast relative to the reign of Bor), Odin goes macho and calls out every power in the universe.

Prime Odin.

Round 1: The MCU

Odin has exiled the Asgardians to Earth, and now is the only one on Asgard.

The opponents are every character that appears on-screen in the MCU from Iron Man 1 to Thor 3. Everyone is at their best during this period, with all their amps/weapons present.

Prime Odin gets Gungnir, Hofund, the Tesseract , the Destroyer, the Casket of Ancient Winters, a newly molded Stormbreaker, his right-handed Infinity Gauntlet, the Aether, and the Eternal Flame. He is composite, having all statements, from all MCU tie-ins, as valid regardless of canonicity issues. He gets 6 months, 5 weeks, 4 days, 3 hours, 2 minutes, and 1 second of preparation, and can use/manipulate his devices in any way he chooses fit. Odin is bloodlusted enough to use the Bifrost as a lazer beam, to great effect on the target, be they person, or planet.

The Tesseract allows teleportation.

Oh, and the Dark World Convergence happens 1 hour, 23 minutes into the fight. Everyone is bloodlusted except for Frigga and Thor.

Round 2: The DCEU

All conditions for Odin as above, Asgard is the same distance relative to DCEU Earth as it is to MCU Earth

MoS to Shazam, flashback characters included.

Only caveat being that Odin gets Mjolnir, the Warlock's Eye and the Lifeline Tablet as well. Due to the lack of established canon over what exactly they do, being 616 references for dead Asgardians and shadowy parasite-gods more than anything, they retain their 616 properties.

Warlock's Eye - Device with a TP enchantment

Lifeline Tablet - Stone tablet with a formula for regeneration/evolutionary enhancement.

Speedmode turned on for DCEU characters. Everyone is bloodlusted.

Hela solos. GG.

How so?

@rajjar: By existing. She is more closely tied to Asgard then Odin...it's why he sealed her. They share the same power source (Asgard) and she get's more of it.

@paytience:

But... she's not on Asgard?

By statements, Thor is stronger than Odin.

But Thor doesn't get statements ;D

@rajjar: ok, by statements Odin is weaker than Thor

@rajjar said:

Odin, mighty All-Father of Asgard, realizes that the moment he stopped spilling blood across the realms was the same moment everybody stopped giving him respek. To prevent his self-esteem from degrading as well (atleast relative to the reign of Bor), Odin goes macho and calls out every power in the universe.

Round 1: The MCU

Odin has exiled the Asgardians to Earth, and now is the only one on Asgard.

The opponents are every character that appears on-screen in the MCU from Iron Man 1 to Thor 3. Everyone is at their best during this period, with all their amps/weapons present.

Prime Odin gets Gungnir, Hofund, the Tesseract , the Destroyer, the Casket of Ancient Winters, a newly molded Stormbreaker, his right-handed Infinity Gauntlet, the Aether, and the Eternal Flame. He is composite, havingall statements, from all MCU tie-ins, as valid regardless of canonicity issues. He gets 6 months, 5 weeks, 4 days, 3 hours, 2 minutes, and 1 second of preparation, and can use/manipulate his devices in any way he chooses fit. Odin is bloodlusted enough to use the Bifrost as a lazer beam, to great effect on the target, be they person, or planet.

Oh, and the Dark World Convergence happens 1 hour, 23 minutes into the fight. Everyone is bloodlusted except for Frigga and Thor.

Round 2: The DCEU

All conditions for Odin as above, Asgard is the same distance relative to DCEU Earth as it is to MCU Earth

MoS to Shazam, flashback characters included.

Only caveat being that Odin gets Mjolnir, the Warlock's Eye and the Lifeline Tablet as well. Due to the lack of established canon over what exactly they do, being 616 references for dead Asgardians and shadowy parasite-gods more than anything, they retain their 616 properties.

Warlock's Eye - Device with a TP enchantment

Lifeline Tablet - Stone tablet with a formula for regeneration/evolutionary enhancement.

Speedmode turned on for DCEU characters. Everyone is bloodlusted.

AHA, you almost got me!

Anyone could stomp this featless dude.

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@rajjar: And unless he leaves, the only way to fight him is for them to get to Asgard.

Whiich means this fight takes place on Asgard...

By Odin’s non existent feats-

Wanda Solos

Hela Solos

Thor Solos

Thanos Solos

Superman Solos

Wonder Woman Solos

Hulk Solos

Hell even Black Widow could shoot him because he actually has no feats at all

By hype-

Wanda still Solos (he’s not fast enough to avoid TK and he doesn’t seem to have any ranged attacks)

Hela “could” solo

Thor technically should solo

Superman still Solos

Wonder Woman still Solos

By scaling and statements Odin stomps

Well, he can leave. I'd imagine he'd want to figure out who he's fighting atleast. Maybe disguise as Anthony Hopkins to investigate Earth. And I'd imagine he'd want Hela to be off Asgard, too.

The hell? He actually beat Thor and sealed his power into a hammer with a few years waiting death. He ripped off parts of Thor's armor with his bare hands, and Gungnir literally shoots energy beams - it disintegrated Laufey, and a Dark Elf. And you're like, Black Widow solos?

@rajjar: Yea, none of that sounds like durability feats to me lmao. MCU Odin by “feats” has never beat Thor, he just depowered him which is far different

You asked for feats. Not durability feats.

Depowering still counts as a win. He used hax and put those powers in Mjolnir. Thor had human stats afterward.

Wasn't it implied that Odin beat Prime Surtur?

@rajjar: Yes I was mostly trolling about Black Widow being able to shoot him (Although he has no durability feats)

Depowering Thor isn’t impressive, and it’s unquantifiable

@rajjar: What tier would u give to Odin via increasing luminosity of star ? Like planet tier or moon tier ? Remember this was specific object.

Cap solos

Odin starts spewing some hate speech then Ms. Marv.... I'm sorry CAPTAIN gender fluid MARVEL blasts him with his/hersSJW powers and banish's him with his sister.

He turned the cup into a cup-shaped constellation. He doesn't get any of those tiers, he just has impossible levels of hax. But considering the fact that the more stronk forms of Asgardian magic require devoting your own personal energies to the task at hand, it means that Odin had enough to convert those pieces into white stars and move them into place. I mean, it's not like Odin hasn't violated the laws of physics before.

That doesn't matter, because unless you can prove that he can't depower Thor, the feat remains relevant when we are talking about Thor.

To be fair, he does have the Tesseract. Maybe she'll recognize it and steal it from him.

@rajjar: It does matter because they only person he can depower is Thor potentially, And Odin said in Ragnarock that Thor is more powerful that him

Well, I agree that it is in context to Thor, hence "the feat remains relevant when we are talking about Thor."

And I wouldn't trust Odin's statements, since Thor wasn't able to banish Hela under his own power alone in the movie, choosing instead to forsake Asgard to Surtur in order to free his people. Odin was referring to Thor being able to accept Ragnarok, when Odin was scared $hitless of it and did everything he could to prevent it.

@rajjar: I still don’t see any feats from Odin that allow him to survive Scarlet Witch’s TK or Captain Marvels Blasts

In his Prime, and has the Aether to enhance durability, same way it did Malekith. He can teleport with the Tesseract/Space stone in right gauntlet. He can use hax, or he can use Gungnir, either through the Destroyer or directly. Outside of comics, he defeated Surtur and took his power away as well.

@rajjar: The Tesseract has never been used in combat when referring to teleportation, and Wanda has crushed Thanos with her TK who is > Malekith

No need for combat, teleportation is to escape. Refer to Endgame Loki.

Wanda didn't crush Thanos with her TK, she overpowered him, but that's a stretch. And Malekith's regen is good, since he can full-on regen limbs. I was also talking about energy durability in relation to the photon blasts, as Malekith couldn't even tank Thor's lightning before, but with the Aether he easily could.

You don't seem to address any of the offensive feats that Odin could wipe the verse with. I did say he was composite. And since he is Thor's dad, guess who scales in the Prime of their youth.

@rajjar: No don’t lowball Wanda, she ‘definitely’ overpowered Thanos as shown by the screaming, pushing him back while he was directly pushing down against her with two hands, destroying his sword (which is > vibranium), Rag dolling him, and preventing the use of his arms. Wanda can definitely overpower Malekith or Odin, and they have no way of possibly escaping her TK if she grabs them because Wanda’s TK after Endgame is stronger than anyone’s physical capabilities

You are saying she crushed him. You're not speaking literally, are you?

And teleportation escapes TK, along with a 2 stone infinity gauntlet. Independently, Odin can do this as well.

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@rajjar: Wanda can easily overpower Thor physically too, and Odin has no lightning to escape. Also Wanda can TP Odin while the others distract him which no one in the MCU has any defense against so Odin likely doesn’t either.

This entire thread is built upon assumptions, and fan fiction lol

@rajjar: Nope Wanda’s TK > Thanos’ physicals > Odin’s physicals. Wanda prevented Thanos from moving his hands and as we know if you can’t close you hand you can’t use the gauntlet

@rajjar: Also no im not speaking literally, Wanda was metaphorically “crushing him”

Just to be clear, this isn't on-screen Odin fighting here. The OP makes that perfectly clear.

Look at his hands. She was about to lose the raw strength contest when he was pressing his sword.

@rajjar: Wanda wasn’t losing thebraw strebgth contest at all. Thanos was using two hands, then Wanda hold him back with one hand, and with the other she pushes him off of her

Sorry I didn’t realize were using fan fiction Odin here

@rajjar: What is this nonsense that the reality stone amped Malekeith's durability?

Well, Malekith tanked Thor's lightning with the Aether. He didn't when Kurse killed Frigga. I;d call that a durability amp.

Prime Odin banished Hela and beat Eternal Flame Surtur and took it away from him. He may be featless, but there's no reason to doubt the statements of his power. Based on those, he'd clear all of the MCU except Ego and Dormammu.

@rajjar: And who says Thor's lighting wasn't that much stronger when he did it to Malekeith the first time? He literally just witnessed his mother get stabbed which sent him into a rage. And even then Thor's lighting was freezing Malekeith in place when he did it in the final fight.

Well, the bolt burned half his face off the first time, while it didn't appear to damage the skin the second time. I dunno if I can quantify the potency with rage, though. If Thor went all out with his lightning and channeled that into Mjolnir, he could have leveled the entirety of Asgard based on Jotunheim and Sokovia.