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#1 Edited by Wonderwomanfan3 (486 posts) - - Show Bio

Alright, so I know that comic book wise, Odin stomps this, but given that he has not many notable feats in the MCU, how would this one go?

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#2 Posted by Outside_85 (23518 posts) - - Show Bio

Who soloes Santa?

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#3 Posted by deactivated-5a35e2edd9c28 (1031 posts) - - Show Bio

Supes solos.

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#4 Posted by Wonderwomanfan3 (486 posts) - - Show Bio
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#5 Posted by MarvelandDCfan24 (7185 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman solos Odin is nigh featless lost his eye fighting frost giants Thor was stomping hundreds of them Odin also states Thor is stronger than him and he was stripped of his power and exiled by Loki

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#6 Posted by FedExDriver (136 posts) - - Show Bio

Clark solos

Diana solos

Wolf solos

DD solos

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#7 Posted by Amcu (16281 posts) - - Show Bio

Odin would most likely win. However, he is severely lacking feats. Because of that everyone on team two solos.

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#8 Posted by deactivated-5b2121a0a9a00 (10000 posts) - - Show Bio

By Statements : Odin

By Feats : Anyone from the team solos

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#9 Posted by deactivated-5a35e2edd9c28 (1031 posts) - - Show Bio

@all-father: By statements, Thor is more powerful than Odin, so team still wrecks.

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#10 Posted by tj849 (8569 posts) - - Show Bio

Anybody from team 2 solos

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#11 Posted by Ready_4_Madness (15448 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor is more powerful than Odin, Superman solos.

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#12 Posted by KanyeCosby (6974 posts) - - Show Bio

Anyone can solo from team 2.

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#13 Posted by Charan_ (1400 posts) - - Show Bio

Anyone can solo from team 2.

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#14 Posted by APEX_pretador (19729 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman solos

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#15 Posted by TheWatcherKing (18259 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman solos

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#16 Posted by deactivated-5abbc73944668 (1400 posts) - - Show Bio

Odin is featless and by statements weaker than Thor.

They all solos.

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#17 Posted by war of light_2814 (2694 posts) - - Show Bio

Clark put Odin to sleep and he won't wake up this time.

Actually, everyone can.

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#18 Posted by americanspeeddemon (7126 posts) - - Show Bio

@lfrankthetank27: Pretty sure Odin meant Thor had more potential. Odin is definitely more powerful than current Thor. Odin beat Hela and Thor even with help couldn't really hold a candle to Hela. Odin also defeated Prime Surtur.

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#19 Posted by MorbusGrav (1178 posts) - - Show Bio

By Statements : Odin

By Feats : Anyone from the team solos

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#20 Posted by Richard96 (5652 posts) - - Show Bio

Hannibal Lecter stomps

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#21 Posted by XLR87T3 (9714 posts) - - Show Bio

@lfrankthetank27: Pretty sure Odin meant Thor had more potential. Odin is definitely more powerful than current Thor. Odin beat Hela and Thor even with help couldn't really hold a candle to Hela. Odin also defeated Prime Surtur.

Scans?

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#22 Posted by Khael (15331 posts) - - Show Bio

Odin is featless and by statements weaker than Thor.

They all solos.

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#23 Posted by Sophisticated_Ignorance (2197 posts) - - Show Bio

Theres no on screen feats to prove it but Odin is more powerful than Prime Surtur since he beat him and depowered him, Prime Surtur was evidently more powerful than Hela who was CLEARLY more powerful than "Odin force" Thor and the rest of the "Revengers" combined.

By logic and statements, Odin. By actual on screen feats JL.

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#24 Edited by Khael (15331 posts) - - Show Bio

@sophisticated_ignorance: @americanspeeddemon: Uhmmm, Odin won by stealing his eternal flame IIRC.

Anyway, Odin CAN'T stop Ragnarok on his own. So no, he can't defeat this version of Surtur. Maybe he did through trickery or specific tools, we never know how he did it.

And if he's as powerful as you guys said, he wouldn't need to send those Valkyries to their death. This feats might be achieved through trickery, magic or prep (which don't work in random encounter), we never know since it happened off panel anyway.

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#25 Posted by FlashKnight (734 posts) - - Show Bio

Odin, in his prime, defeated both Hela and Surtur. He can take Diana and Steppenwolf. However, I think he loses to Superman and Doomsday unless he finds Kryptonite.

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#26 Posted by GeraltsOpinion (391 posts) - - Show Bio

Odin by what's happened in his history and legend. Superman by feats

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#27 Posted by DCEUDoomsdayown (9 posts) - - Show Bio

Odin > Surtur (Prime) =/= Superman (Post-Justice League) =/= Doomsday (DCEU) > Hela > Steppenwolf > Wonder Woman > Surtur (Weakened)

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#28 Posted by deactivated-5c8fd6cb3e4f4 (18365 posts) - - Show Bio
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#29 Posted by TheOneWhoPullsTheStrings (2746 posts) - - Show Bio

Any of team 2 solo featless Odin.

But by some of the transitive property logic (ie: fallacious logic that can't be used conclusively, just conjecture) - one can perhaps see Odin winning. But even if he is stronger than Surtur prime or Hela, we don't know by how much or anything else, and Supes might still solo.

So yeah, this is team in a godstomp.

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#30 Posted by DammeFavour (8292 posts) - - Show Bio

They all stomp odin individually

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#31 Posted by DCEUDoomsdayown (9 posts) - - Show Bio

Any of team 2 solo featless Odin.

But by some of the transitive property logic (ie: fallacious logic that can't be used conclusively, just conjecture) - one can perhaps see Odin winning. But even if he is stronger than Surtur prime or Hela, we don't know by how much or anything else, and Supes might still solo.

So yeah, this is team in a godstomp.

Statements within a story are always true until contradicted, and what we do know is that Odin was capable of besting both Hela and Surtur, which leads us to conclude that he should be capable of defeating much lesser beings, such as Wonder Woman and Steppenwolf.

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#32 Posted by TheOneWhoPullsTheStrings (2746 posts) - - Show Bio

@dceudoomsdayown:

No it doesn't, not unless we know how he did it. He could have made some deals and got some temp boosts and help for all we know, and got lucky. Until we actually see what he did to beat them, trap them, etc (and if we did, it is possible we can see that he is actually the weaker one, but had X trump card for special situation), we don't know jack.

So no, it doesn't mean that automatically.

Featless Odin gets Godstomped.

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#33 Posted by tj849 (8569 posts) - - Show Bio

Even Mr. Blank would solo MCU Odin.

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#34 Edited by DCEUDoomsdayown (9 posts) - - Show Bio

@theonewhopullsthestrings said:

@dceudoomsdayown:

No it doesn't, not unless we know how he did it. He could have made some deals and got some temp boosts and help for all we know, and got lucky. Until we actually see what he did to beat them, trap them, etc (and if we did, it is possible we can see that he is actually the weaker one, but had X trump card for special situation), we don't know jack.

So no, it doesn't mean that automatically.

Featless Odin gets Godstomped.

Statements within a story are always true until contradicted unless you can provide a statement that shows why the narrator and/or character was lying, or even a feat to demonstrate otherwise. Unless you can do that then the statement remains true until contradicted.

Basic logic in fundamental basis of storytelling.

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#35 Edited by TheOneWhoPullsTheStrings (2746 posts) - - Show Bio

@dceudoomsdayown:

We know it is true; but we don't know HOW it is true, what about that don't you understand?

I am not contradicting it. I know he defeated them, because the story said so - as you said, and it wasn't contradicted. But not knowing HOW he did it makes them unusable feats. HOW can either set him up to be very awesome, or just a sly old dog, who knows?

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#36 Posted by war of light_2814 (2694 posts) - - Show Bio

Mismatch. The oldman didn't do anything except sleep and losing an eye.

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#37 Edited by shroudofsorrow (5778 posts) - - Show Bio

@dceudoomsdayown: Meh, I disagree with that, at least as an absolute. As he said, we have no idea how Odin did what he did, and he has virtually no concrete feats as it is. Ergo, he gets soloed by anyone on the DC team. Frankly, this thread is a nonsensical mismatch and in my opinion ought to be locked on the spot.

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#38 Posted by ASGARDIANBRONY (11629 posts) - - Show Bio

Odin by lore should win.

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#39 Posted by The_Fub (1690 posts) - - Show Bio

Hard, based on hype, I'd say Odin. He beat Surtur (whether prime Surtur or not is unknown) and it was implied that he beat Hela (who else could have banished her, also, said his power held her back). He also depowered Thor like it was nothing, but it's unlikely he could do that to just anyone.

His two best combat showings we're off screen though, soooo yeah, team takes it handily based on feats.

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#41 Edited by DCEUDoomsdayown (9 posts) - - Show Bio

@shroudofsorrow said:

@dceudoomsdayown: Meh, I disagree with that, at least as an absolute. As he said, we have no idea how Odin did what he did, and he has virtually no concrete feats as it is. Ergo, he gets soloed by anyone on the DC team. Frankly, this thread is a nonsensical mismatch and in my opinion ought to be locked on the spot.

It is absolute in all forms of storytelling. It is as factual as the very laws that govern the Universe.

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#42 Posted by RampageTheFirst (7363 posts) - - Show Bio

I can solo him.

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#43 Edited by RR79 (6761 posts) - - Show Bio

@dceudoomsdayown said:
@shroudofsorrow said:

@dceudoomsdayown: Meh, I disagree with that, at least as an absolute. As he said, we have no idea how Odin did what he did, and he has virtually no concrete feats as it is. Ergo, he gets soloed by anyone on the DC team. Frankly, this thread is a nonsensical mismatch and in my opinion ought to be locked on the spot.

It is absolute in all forms of storytelling. It is as factual as the very laws that govern the Universe.

No it isn't. There are many times a character will make a statement that they think is true based on the information that they have. That doesn't make the statement true. There have been many times the statement has been proven to be false and sometimes it is because the character is just a known liar, sometimes it is because they were intentionally being deceptive, and other times it was simply because they did not have the information needed to know the statement was false. At the same time, that doesn't mean all statements are disregarded. If a character would have access to all the information needed to make that statement, there is no reason to suspect it isn't true unless it is contradicted.

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#44 Posted by plotweapon16255 (7518 posts) - - Show Bio

Anyone can solo from team 2.

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#45 Edited by Itachus17 (3340 posts) - - Show Bio

Mismatch. The oldman didn't do anything except sleep and losing an eye.

This.

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#46 Edited by Wakel (826 posts) - - Show Bio

"Back in his day" Odin, when conquering worlds and defeating Prime Surtur, would likely manhandle them all.

The Odin we've seen is pathetic. :'(

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#47 Edited by Hermur (39 posts) - - Show Bio

By feat from the first Thor movie Odin will strip them of their powers and learn them a lesson in humility.

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#48 Posted by DammeFavour (8292 posts) - - Show Bio

@hermur: thor was the only person he could strip of power, he couldn't strip loki's power or hela's

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#49 Posted by Hermur (39 posts) - - Show Bio

Were is that stated? I’m looking at feats that actuall exist not opinions that can’t be proved.

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#50 Posted by macleen (3289 posts) - - Show Bio

@hermur said:

By feet from the first Thor movie Odin will strip them of their powers.

by the time he finishes his ceremonial declarations he will be long dead by feats too