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Who wins ?
Beck just runs away from the Destroyer and leads it to water where it'll sink to the bottom and be unable to get back up due to how heavy it is
gg
@mr_blobfish: Obviously Beck wins this match, the Destroyer is not fast enough to catch him
This needs to end. Destroyer.
Nah man Beck will never be tagged by the Slow Destroyer, he easily leads the machine to its doom
This needs to end. Destroyer.
Nah man Beck will never be tagged by the Slow Destroyer, he easily leads the machine to its doom
Beck doesn't have any speed lol. His illusions do. Destroyer doesn't need to get led anywhere when he can just blast everything around him from a distance until he destroys whatever building Beck is hiding in.
This really just depends on how good The Destroyer's sensors are and how it's being controlled.
If it isn't completely fooled by the illusion, it could easily just keep spamming face-lasers randomly and tanking attacks until all of the bots are dead.
@kingofwakanda: Beck can mislead Destroyer using his illusions and get the dumb machine to jump in a ocean or something lol, easy win for him
@diarrhearegatta: Whoever is piloting the Destroyer would have to be an idiot to let that happen. Also, a large body of water could be thousands of miles away for all we know, since this battle has no location.
Destroyer does a beam 360 degrees in any direction and obliterates wherever Beck is hiding. Lol at him being led into the ocean, you reaching bro.
@kingofwakanda: Please, the Destroyer has no host, it's a automated robot that is controlled via Odin's spear. It's a dumb robot that fires at anything living. Do the math.
Destroyer will be confused via illusions and lead away and trolled into the ocean, defeated forever, gg
@joker567892: there is no Odin Force stop confusing the comics with the movies it makes you look dumb
Beck has zero ways to deal with the destroyer
@joker567892: there is no Odin Force stop confusing the comics with the movies it makes you look dumb
Beck has zero ways to deal with the destroyer
Sinks it in ocean, win via incap.
@diarrhearegatta: Lol at this ocean you keep referencing. We talking Pacific or Atlantic?
Destroyer fires a few AOE Odin force blasts and destroys whatever drones are in his path. Beck couldn't even avoid friendly fire when an unarmed opponent was coming for him. He started shaking in his boots and got himself shot. He either succumbs to his own friendly fire again, gets hit by a Destroyer blast or whatever debris it sends flying or Destroyer just eventually destroys every drone Beck has because they can't do squat to him and he just blasts in whatever direction he's getting hit from.
@kingofwakanda: How will it AOE if it doesn't see the illusions, but rather, a bunch of images in front of it, like a fake Mysterio "flying" away from it?
Beck only got shot due to a lack of his drones (most of them were focused elsewhere on killing Peter's friends and whatnot) to protect him and the very small space that he and Spidey fought in (like, it was literally a hallway). Here, a open space (by the rules of CV, if the location isn't given, the battle happens in a generic city, so it is open space, potentially with a coastside not far off) means that'll never happen.
Again, illusions mean the destroyer will never go for a AOE, a single target means a single blast. It's a dumb robot and it'll never figure out that reality is fake. The Destroyer is a machine designed to kill living beings, and considering drones aren't living, it's likely that It will never go for them anyway unless by accident, which won't happen.
@diarrhearegatta: You do realize the illusions are created by a grid of drones projecting an image? When Spider-Man got inside of the illusion he was able to destroy them with electric volts. What do you think is going to happen when Destroyer shoots his beams at Beck's illusions? That's right, he's going to destroy the drones creating the illusion. When one of Beck's drones was offline the illusion started to go haywire.
Beck's only hope is that the Destroyer doesn't fire any shots and hit any of his drones. Good luck with that.
@kingofwakanda: The Destroyer will never destroy drones, it only hunts down organic beings.
Plus Beck can just put up a illusion of instant darkness which is one of his go to moves, and the Destroyer will be unable to see anything, thus it will never attack considering it sees nothing as a target. Easy win.
Beck's tech will mean that the dumb Destroyer will be 2 slow and stupid to figure out reality from illusion.
@marvelanddcfan24: I was kinda joking, but it's true:
Gungnir was also stated to fire Odin-Force beams:
https://www.marvel.com/characters/odin/on-screen/profile
"Odin is a master Hand-To-Hand combatant who carries the magical spear Gungnir, which could channel the Odin-Force."
@diarrhearegatta: Nonsense. You've been saying all along The Destroyer will chase after illusions but now you're saying that he will only hunt organic beings. Is he too dumb to know the difference or will he just ignore all the drones until he hunts down Beck? Either way, it's a win. He can ignore the drones and illusions and uncover Beck (since he only hunts down organic beings according to you) or he will shoot at the illusions and destroy drones in the crossfire (since he's too dumb to know the difference according to you).
Let's go with your too dumb argument. Since Destroyer is just a big dummy, he'll shoot at anything he perceives to be a threat. When Mysterio engages in any way, Destroyer targets the illusion, drones get taken down just by being in the way and the illusion is destroyed. All it takes is one drone to go offline.
Shrouding Destroyer in darkness isn't a win for Beck. It's a stalemate at best since he has no way to put him down. Refusing to engage might as well be retreating. I'd consider it a loss by forfeit.
Mysterio one-shots Odin, solos the Endless and scarres Azathoth with his outerversal drones and omnipotent-plus tier illusions
@diarrhearegatta: Nonsense. You've been saying all along The Destroyer will chase after illusions but now you're saying that he will only hunt organic beings. Is he too dumb to know the difference or will he just ignore all the drones until he hunts down Beck?
The Destroyer is designed to fight organic creatures and enemies of Odin. It simply isn't designed to recognise non organic entities as a threat.
Either way, it's a win. He can ignore the drones and illusions and uncover Beck (since he only hunts down organic beings according to you)
The illusions still effect it fine. It'll be forced to waste time and follow Beck whenever he goes, even as a illusion, hopefully near a source of water.
or he will shoot at the illusions
Which based on the illusion might never happen
and destroy drones in the crossfire (since he's too dumb to know the difference according to you).
Why would he destroy the drones if the illusion it is being shown is a passive vision or is something simple like a flying Beck, which will trigger it to attack and miss due to the drone being faster and more lighter? Either way he win
Let's go with your too dumb argument. Since Destroyer is just a big dummy, he'll shoot at anything he perceives to be a threat.
Anything organic, smh. Way to strawman, I simply said that if there are no targets, the robot will be inactive.
When Mysterio engages in any way,
Which he will learn via Edith that the Destroyer was a dangerous threat that was beaten by Thor.....and he knows he has no chance, so he won't even engage offensively.
Destroyer targets the illusion, drones get taken down just by being in the way and the illusion is destroyed. All it takes is one drone to go offline.
Would happen if Beck was reckless, but as shown by the movie, he's clearly not and thinks ahead.
Shrouding Destroyer in darkness isn't a win for Beck.
Beck has physically caused the robot to became inactive, therefore he wins by incap
It's a stalemate at best since he has no way to put him down. Refusing to engage might as well be retreating. I'd consider it a loss by forfeit.
It's a loss for Destroyer, simple lol.
Mysterio one-shots Odin, solos the Endless and scarres Azathoth with his outerversal drones and omnipotent-plus tier illusions
You already said that joke in the last like three threads lol, at least change up the names a bit, maybe add a new sentence in
@joker567892: name a time it was mentioned in the movies
Those comics are losely canon
Mysterio one-shots Odin, solos the Endless and scarres Azathoth with his outerversal drones and omnipotent-plus tier illusions
You already said that joke in the last like three threads lol, at least change up the names a bit, maybe add a new sentence in
Ney, can't do that, the Mystero-cult could have trouble to cope with the changes.
@alsimmons77: Come on man, you gotta spell the name of the guy right first, this is unprofessional, what exactly is a "Mystero", it sounds like my old hoover
@alsimmons77: Come on man, you gotta spell the name of the guy right first, this is unprofessional
I don't want him to know that i'm talking about him, he could come out of my tft and kill me with omnipotent-plus tier illusions.
@marvelanddcfan24: Those aren't comics, that's a character encyclopedia and the other is from the Marvel website, they say Odin-Force is how he removed Thor's powers on the site.
Mysterio speedblitzes and throws the Destroyer into the sun.
@diarrhearegatta: Bruh, just stop.
Now Beck wins by not engaging because the Destroyer is too dangerous? Wow. I gotta hand it to you, that's pretty creative. Not an incap in any way, but ok. That sounds more like tactical retreat to me.
Just so we are clear you are saying Beck's only means of winning are to A) do nothing or B) somehow lure the Destroyer into a large random body of water.
@diarrhearegatta: Bruh, just stop.
Lol
Now Beck wins by not engaging because the Destroyer is too dangerous?
Actually Beck wins by recognising that the Destroyer can't be defeated in a physical battle and uses his tech to physically inactivate the robot by removing the need for it to continue fighting. It's called being creative, and trust me, seeing what Beck managed to pull off in terms of his illusions, he seems to have plenty of it.
Wow. I gotta hand it to you, that's pretty creative. Not an incap in any way, but ok. That sounds more like tactical retreat to me.
Not really, I could easily say that Beck uses his drones to distract the Destroyer while he runs away, but that's not in character for him. He wants to have the glory of beating a Thor level villain, so by using his "magical" powers to freeze the machine in place with his illusion tech, he defeats it and gets the attention of a very big crowd. Sounds in character to me.
Just so we are clear you are saying Beck's only means of winning are to A) do nothing
Obviously I never said this, another strawman
or B) somehow lure the Destroyer into a large random body of water.
Which is basically plan B, and considering plan A with EDITH's access to SHIELD databases and all of the information they have on the Destroyer, Beck knows he can't beat it head on and will use the best thing he invented to defeat something that Thor struggled with.
Actually Beck wins loses by recognising that the Destroyer can't be defeated in a physical battle
There, fixed it for you. Everything else was unnecessary. Arguing that a stalemate is a victory, making up out nowhere that Destroyer only attacks organic material, Mysterio using illusions that Destroyer won't see as threats because... it's detrimental to your argument? The mental gymnastics involved are just mind boggling.
Destroyer
Actually Beck wins loses by recognising that the Destroyer can't be defeated in a physical battle
There, fixed it for you.
Nice, don't address anything from before because that would require effort, lol
Everything else was unnecessary.
Did you actually read it or just the parts that suit you?
Arguing that a stalemate is a victory,
Erm, using the abilities of the character to force the other character into a situation where they can't attack or react is a "stalemate"? Rubbish.
making up out nowhere that Destroyer only attacks organic material,
Nice, you say I make it up but provide no reasoning or facts to prove your claim.
Mysterio using illusions that Destroyer won't see as threats because... it's detrimental to your argument?
Because Beck has access to a database where a organisation literally deconstructed the Armour and analysed the material, capabilities, energy source, and history of the machine and using that info to logically figure out that it's obviously beyond guns and lasers is illogical, and clearly is done to halfass a argument.
I'm having a feeling you aren't actually going to say anything of worth here.
The mental gymnastics involved are just mind boggling.
Not a argument
@diarrhearegatta: Lol I'm giving your arguments the attention they deserve.
He can't win, so he doesn't engage, therefore he wins. Lmao wut my dude. Waste of time.
@diarrhearegatta: Lol I'm giving your arguments the attention they deserve.
So none, basically. You basically gave up after the first proper response and then just went to "muh his argument is bad, look how bad it is!!" which, despite being so terrible, you can't debunk properly.
He can't win, so he doesn't engage, therefore he wins. Lmao wut my dude. Waste of time.
Concession accepted.
@diarrhearegatta: Lol try harder.
@kingofwakanda: I thought you were done?
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