MCU Luke Cage vs MCU Captain America

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@Nomar I don't think you have actually watched Jessica Jones. If you had you would realize how pathetic Luke Cage was portrayed.

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@abraham700:

You are nothing but a troll you probably have never seen Jessica Jones. So calling people fanboys when you have been proven wrong only makes you look childish.

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#154  Edited By abraham700

@billybickle said:

@abraham700:

You are nothing but a troll you probably have never seen Jessica Jones. So calling people fanboys when you have been proven wrong only makes you look childish.

Luke Cage and Jessica Jones beat normal humans effortlessly, so their struggles are slow and tiring. that's what happens when a woman who can lift a car faces normal humans.

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#155  Edited By abraham700

@billybickle said:

@nomar: yet couldn't tank a simple shotgun blast go figure.

1- Luke Cage was with the barrel of the gun in his chin.

- The shot of Bucky was realized from a long distance.

2- The shot of Jessica Jones was shot by a shotgun.

- The shot of Bucky was realized by a small gun

3- The shot of a gun shoots several bullets.

- The Shot of Bucky shoots just one bullet.

4- The shot of Jessica Jones was not able to perforate the skin Luke Cage.

- The shot of Bucky pierced the skin, bones and organs of Captain America ... he bled.

YOU'RE NOTHING, TRY AGAIN, FANBOY !!!!!

Captain America hates shots, is bad for your health.

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@abraham700: cap was hit by a grenade launcher that flew him off a bridge into a bus that was then hit by another vehicle that is beyond anything Luke cage received in Jessica Jones. Now ignore the facts FANCHILD you lost. Cap stomps

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@abraham700:

There's no excuse for that kind of hostility.

As for your argument: Cap wasn't overpowered by humans. He was overpowered by the electrical restraint, which pinned him to the elevator. If you want to go that route, Jessica was KO'd by a below-average human with a plank of wood... so... yeah, not a great showing there.

The guy who casually threw a motorcycle so hard that it crushed the front of a military jeep was not overpowered by humans.

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@abraham700: cap was hit by a grenade launcher that flew him off a bridge into a bus that was then hit by another vehicle that is beyond anything Luke cage received in Jessica Jones. Now ignore the facts FANCHILD you lost. Cap stomps

Steve had his shield, I saw the movie, fanboy.

Steve needs your shield to survive the fall of a building or against a clash of a bus, vibranium absorbs impact.

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#159  Edited By abraham700

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@abraham700:

As for your argument: Cap wasn't overpowered by humans. He was overpowered by the electrical restraint,

Previsible, you just used my second option. ''electrical chock''...fanboy.

which pinned him to the elevator. If you want to go that route, Jessica was KO'd by a below-average human with a plank of wood... so... yeah, not a great showing there.

Steve was overthrown by Batroc, yes, he was knocked.

Steve was on the ground at the beginning of the fight.

The guy who casually threw a motorcycle so hard that it crushed the front of a military jeep was not overpowered by humans.

This ridiculous argument has been refuted, the guy who threw motorcycles can not lift the rear of a car

Captain America and Bucky together can not move a car.

Sorry, but you are clearly confusing the characters,

We are talking about Jessica Jones and Captain America ... we're not talking about Superman.

Steve can be immobilized, Steve can feel an electric shock, Steve can have his arm moved by two men, Steve can be injured with gunshots and knives, Steve can go to the floor after taking a kick of Batroc, Steve can not lift cars or trucks, Steve can not knock steel doors, Steve can not break walls.

Jessica jones ????? The same situation, She can fell pain with plank of wood.

Spider Man, Jessica Jones, Captain America etc, etc ...

They may be hurt by humans.

In comics or MCU, no matter.

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#163  Edited By BillyBickle

@abraham700: he punched a wall made of sheetrock do you comprehend what that is? He headbutted a metal locker then was put in a coma by a shotgun blast which would of killed him if it wasn't for the help he received. His feats are a joke.

Cap jumping out the elevator landing on the concrete, taking a full speed uppercut from quicksilver, being flung off the bridge by a grenade into a bus, lol you have nothing to compare to any of those feats.

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#164  Edited By Tayssti

@nomar said:

Things that would have Cap exerting some effort to avoid taking damage Luke Cage just tanks. Things that would have cap exert some amount of effort, Luke Cage does effortlessly. If people are so blind that they can't realize this or at least realize what is implied. They are lost causes. Fanboying is a terrible thing. Heck most of us already agree cap wins in a fight with his shield. Without it, he has 0 hope of dishing out damage to put LC down.

You'd have to be a rabid fanboy to think Cap could survive a point blank explosion without a scratch and unharmed or a shotgun to the head without his head being blown clear off. Some of you have cancerous opinions.

What blunt force damage has Luke tanked that Cap couldn't?

What feats has Luke done that Cap would have to put effort to do?

Can Cap survive a point blank explosion? Yeah. Can he do it without a scratch ? No very unlikely because he doesn't have the high skin durability that Luke has. Cap would suffer from skin wounds and burns.

Can Cap take a head shot from a shotgun with out his head blowing off? Extremely unlikely because Cap doesnt have the high piercing durability that Luke has thanks to his highly durable skin. The shot gun shell pellets would very likely pierce Cap and rip threw his head, something that Luke doesn't have to worry about because of his skin. However, Luke does have to worry about blunt force trauma seeing as how he almost died from the muzzle energy coming out of the shotgun that gave him some heavy brain swelling/trauma. If Cap had the same skin as Luke, he wouldn't have to worry about that aspect. He would tank shot gun shots to the head because his ability to take blunt force's is higher then Luke's. Its backed up by many feats.

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@abraham700: he punched a wall made of sheetrock do you comprehend what that is?

Captain America can not topple even a sheetrock do you comprehend what that is?

He headbutted a metal locker then was put in a coma by a shotgun blast which would of killed him if it wasn't for the help he received.

Captain America was wounded by a lower weapon do you comprehend what that is?

His feats are a joke.

Captain America was overthrown by Batroc, his arm can be moved by two ordinary men. This is pathetic do you comprehend what that is?

Cap jumping out the elevator landing on the concrete, taking a full speed uppercut from quicksilver

Hawkeye was struck by Quicksilver, Hawkeye is more durable than Luke Cage ... I ... I ... I can see ... I understand.

being flung off the bridge by a grenade into a bus, lol you have nothing to compare to any of those feats.

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Explosion of a bar >>> explosion of a grenade.

Luke Cage has a good relationship with the fire.

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Captain America and the fire did not get along well.

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@abraham700: the fire cap was jumping over still greater than any of LC feats do you comprehend.

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#167  Edited By abraham700

@abraham700: the fire cap was jumping over still greater than any of LC feats do you comprehend.

Sure! Captain America is much more agile than Luke Cage, is obvious, Luke Cage does not have a feat of agility comparable, Steve really had to use all the power of his legs, Steve would turn BBQ.

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@abraham700: so would LC insides they would of been cooked. Do you comprehend right now til Luke Cage actually gets worthy feats he is no match for Captain America.

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@abraham700: so would LC insides they would of been cooked. Do you comprehend right now til Luke Cage actually gets worthy feats he is no match for Captain America.

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#170  Edited By HAMMER_OF_J2

@billybickle:So your saying Cap could punch as hard as a shotgun? Because depending on distance that makes no sense (because velocity inertia blah blah blah you get the point). Plus Luke was able to tank blows from Jessica.

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#171  Edited By BillyBickle

@hammer_of_j2: Cap destroying punching bag proves you wrong. LC and Jessica's fight was a joke you might want to rewatch it. Until Lc gets better feats he loses badly

Just read one of your early replies you state that lc was only knocked out by shotgun blast wrong he was put into coma because his brain was swelling and was about to die if Jessica didn't get him help .You clearly never watched the show.

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#172  Edited By abraham700

@billybickle said:

@hammer_of_j2: Cap destroying punching bag proves you wrong.

Bruce Lee and Mike Tyson and ordinary heavyweights can destroy punching bags, you comprehends how this feat is ridiculous? this is a joke.

LC and Jessica's fight was a joke you might want to rewatch it. Until Lc gets better feats he loses badly

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA After Luke Cage 1 season, the Possibility to put Steve in h2h against Luke Cage will be impossible, but the season 1 is not necessary.

Luke Cage already has enough feats to treat Steve like a little bitch in h2h.

STRENGTH:

Best feat of Captain America is throwing a harley davidson 450 lbs (220 kg), pathetic, this feat is a joke.

- The vehicle weighing 5x less than 1 ton.

The best feat of Luke Cage is to move the car of 2 tons occasionally with a slight push.

NOTE: Moving the car just as a side effect of the fight.

DURABILITY:

The best feat of the Captain America is surviving against grenades, (with shield) without the shield Steve will turn Ground beef.

The best feat of Luke Cage is surviving an explosion that destroyed your bar.

Just read one of your early replies you state that lc was only knocked out by shotgun blast wrong he was put into coma because his brain was swelling and was about to die if Jessica didn't get him help .You clearly never watched the show.

You never Practiced martial arts, you never entered in a gym, you're so childish, you think that destroy a punching bag is a superhuman feat.

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@abraham700: LC gets raped you are delusional. Oh and weren't you the one who thought punching through sheetrock was impressive get out of here lol child.

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#174  Edited By abraham700

@billybickle said:

@abraham700: LC gets raped you are delusional. Oh and weren't you the one who thought punching through sheetrock was impressive get out of here lol child.

Cap fanboys live in an imaginary world, In the world of cap fanboys Steve is impressive, lift motorcycles and destroy punching bags is Superhuman. hahahahahahahahahaha

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@abraham700: dude seen you on other threads with cap vs LC. You are practically the only person thinking a character with crap feats can beat a character with multiple movie feats. Get a freaking life

I'm done with you

CAPTAIN AMERICA BENDS LUKE CAGE OVER THEN BUYS HIM MCDONALD'S.

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#176  Edited By Hypester

Cap takes this.

Luke cage is probably stronger, and definitely more durable, but not so much that he's out of Cap's weight class. Cap is such a superior fighter, it's really a matter of time until he brings down Cage down. A shame, I like Cage more, but he doesn't have a way in to stop Cap and he goes down before Cap gets tired of beating on him. Cap takes 7/10 at least.

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@abraham700: I've actually seen the movie from which the third gif was uploaded.. It's an Indian Movie called Force. The actor John Abraham actually lifted that bike

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#178  Edited By deltahuman

So from all the arguments I've figured out the following-

Luke cage has unbreakable skin so he doesn't have to worry about getting wounded or cut or burnt but he is as vulnerable to blunt force trauma as a normal human being.

Cap on the other hand can be cut or injured but due to the serum his body is insanely durable. Probably his body is much denser than normal human beings..his bones stronger etc.this is backed by all the crazy durability feats he has in MCU. Also cap is probably stronger faster more agile and has much better endurance/stamina compared to Luke Cage and Cap is among the most skilled fighters in MCU.

So if these guys square off..Luke cage could stop cap if he had high calibre guns provided he can shoot cap in vital areas but then again cap has already dealt with guns repulsors plasma weapons etc already. Advantage Shield.

If this goes full on h2h then Luke could win if he manages to injure cap quickly. But also remember how bucky punched cap on the face in bloodlust several times in WS movie end and cap walked it off. Cap has insane durability. If cap figures out Luke Cage's weakness then maybe he can knock him out by hitting him in vital areas..clearly cap is the better fighter.

So maybe this fight ends with Cap taking it 8/10

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#179  Edited By abraham700

@deltahuman said:

I've actually seen the movie from which the third gif was uploaded.. It's an Indian Movie called Force. The actor John Abraham actually lifted that bike

Thank you.

cap is probably stronger faster more agile and has much better endurance/stamina compared to Luke Cage and Cap is among the most skilled fighters in MCU.

I agree with everything ... except the physical strength ... Steve has no feats of strength that put it above Luke Cage, he is below Luke Cage, far below.

Captain America have internal organs and better metabolism that Luke Cage.

EXAMPLE: Steve can not can get drunk, Luke Cage can... even thor can get drunk. Steve's metabolism is better than Luke Cage, it was what allowed him to survive agaisnt shots and punches of Bucky.

But having a better metabolism is not enough, Steve rogers have internal organs, breath, endurance/Stamina and a much better health than Tony Star, way better, yes, he has, Tony Stark is an alcoholic, but Tony Stark is stronger and more durable than Captain America, even though Tony is drunk, tired with poor health and rotten liver ... no matter, Tony Stark is stronger and more durable than Steve when he dons his armor ... Luke Cage also ... Luke Cage is not Iron Man, but he is stronger and more durable than Steve.

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@hypester said:

Cap takes this.

Luke cage is probably stronger, and definitely more durable, but not so much that he's out of Cap's weight class. Cap is such a superior fighter, it's really a matter of time until he brings down Cage down. A shame, I like Cage more, but he doesn't have a way in to stop Cap and he goes down before Cap gets tired of beating on him. Cap takes 7/10 at least.

ahh! finally someone got it !!!!

feel free to pick a winner, Luke Cage or Captain America.

Each have the right to have an opinion, but I hate it when anybody try increase or decrease the power of a character.

arguments for Captain America ??? No problem, feel free...but using speed, agility, fighting skills, your shield, your brain etc, etc ...

Strenght ??? Durability ??? No, that's ridiculous, Steve will never defeat Luke Cage using only their strength and durability, no chance.

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@abraham700:

Strenght ??? Durability ??? No, that's ridiculous, Steve will never defeat Luke Cage using only their strength and durability, no chance.

Would you be willing to do a CaV?

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@abraham700:

Strenght ??? Durability ??? No, that's ridiculous, Steve will never defeat Luke Cage using only their strength and durability, no chance.

Would you be willing to do a CaV?

What is this?

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@buildhare said:

@abraham700:

Strenght ??? Durability ??? No, that's ridiculous, Steve will never defeat Luke Cage using only their strength and durability, no chance.

Would you be willing to do a CaV?

What is this?

It's like an actual debate with turns, rebuttal and at the end the people vote who they think debated/made the best case.

Basically this

One of these

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@abraham700 said:
@buildhare said:

@abraham700:

Strenght ??? Durability ??? No, that's ridiculous, Steve will never defeat Luke Cage using only their strength and durability, no chance.

Would you be willing to do a CaV?

What is this?

It's like an actual debate with turns, rebuttal and at the end the people vote who they think debated/made the best case.

Basically this

One of these

I accept

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@buildhare: T4V please too lol this ought to be good.

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@abraham700: ok i agree with some stuff you said too but metabolism is the process of buring food to release energy.. Steve does that much faster than normal human beings...that allows him to drink asgardian wine..or eliminate fatigue toxins and not get tired or effected by poisons and stuff. Yeah all that is true...but dude that ability doesn't have to do anything with the fact that he can survive being punched or beaten by much stronger guys. This is a feat of durability and the fact that he has a healing factor that allows him to shrug off even major injuries.

So yes...Steve can take whatever luke cage can throw him...all his punches. He is superhumanly durable. This doesn't have to do anything with his superior metabolism

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@abraham700: ok i agree with some stuff you said too but metabolism is the process of buring food to release energy.. Steve does that much faster than normal human beings...that allows him to drink asgardian wine..or eliminate fatigue toxins and not get tired or effected by poisons and stuff. Yeah all that is true...but dude that ability doesn't have to do anything with the fact that he can survive being punched or beaten by much stronger guys. This is a feat of durability and the fact that he has a healing factor that allows him to shrug off even major injuries.

So yes...Steve can take whatever luke cage can throw him...all his punches. He is superhumanly durable. This doesn't have to do anything with his superior metabolism

Right! Steve has a healing factor, Luke Cage not, but healing factor and durability are different things, I do not know if the term ''durability'' would be right, Steve is more durable than a normal man, but I do not know if it is in superhuman levels, your healing factor is superhuman, no doubt, Steve is not Wolverine, but he has a superhuman healing factor.

HULK: Do you remember? Emil Blonsky survived a Hulk kick, but he paid a high price, Blonsky was unconscious and had all his broken bones, he recovered some time later, incredible, Luke Cage could not do it but ...

...That hability of Blonsky can be called durability ??? I do not know, maybe the term ''regeneration'' or ''healing factor'' is more accurate.

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@deltahuman said:

@abraham700: ok i agree with some stuff you said too but metabolism is the process of buring food to release energy.. Steve does that much faster than normal human beings...that allows him to drink asgardian wine..or eliminate fatigue toxins and not get tired or effected by poisons and stuff. Yeah all that is true...but dude that ability doesn't have to do anything with the fact that he can survive being punched or beaten by much stronger guys. This is a feat of durability and the fact that he has a healing factor that allows him to shrug off even major injuries.

So yes...Steve can take whatever luke cage can throw him...all his punches. He is superhumanly durable. This doesn't have to do anything with his superior metabolism

Right! Steve has a healing factor, Luke Cage not, but healing factor and durability are different things, I do not know if the term ''durability'' would be right, Steve is more durable than a normal man, but I do not know if it is in superhuman levels, your healing factor is superhuman, no doubt, Steve is not Wolverine, but he has a superhuman healing factor.

HULK: Do you remember? Emil Blonsky survived a Hulk kick, but he paid a high price, Blonsky was unconscious and had all his broken bones, he recovered some time later, incredible, Luke Cage could not do it but ...

...That hability of Blonsky can be called durability ??? I do not know, maybe the term ''regeneration'' or ''healing factor'' is more accurate.

Steve can heal faster than most humans, but it sounds like you guys are making him out to be Deadpool here. He doesn't have a healing factor that could take effect mid-fight.

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#194  Edited By abraham700

@bflynn316 said:
@abraham700 said:
@deltahuman said:

@abraham700: ok i agree with some stuff you said too but metabolism is the process of buring food to release energy.. Steve does that much faster than normal human beings...that allows him to drink asgardian wine..or eliminate fatigue toxins and not get tired or effected by poisons and stuff. Yeah all that is true...but dude that ability doesn't have to do anything with the fact that he can survive being punched or beaten by much stronger guys. This is a feat of durability and the fact that he has a healing factor that allows him to shrug off even major injuries.

So yes...Steve can take whatever luke cage can throw him...all his punches. He is superhumanly durable. This doesn't have to do anything with his superior metabolism

Right! Steve has a healing factor, Luke Cage not, but healing factor and durability are different things, I do not know if the term ''durability'' would be right, Steve is more durable than a normal man, but I do not know if it is in superhuman levels, your healing factor is superhuman, no doubt, Steve is not Wolverine, but he has a superhuman healing factor.

HULK: Do you remember? Emil Blonsky survived a Hulk kick, but he paid a high price, Blonsky was unconscious and had all his broken bones, he recovered some time later, incredible, Luke Cage could not do it but ...

...That hability of Blonsky can be called durability ??? I do not know, maybe the term ''regeneration'' or ''healing factor'' is more accurate.

Steve can heal faster than most humans, but it sounds like you guys are making him out to be Deadpool here. He doesn't have a healing factor that could take effect mid-fight.

Comparing the strength and durability of Steve with Luke Cage is like comparing the senses of Daredevil with Superman.

- Daredevil has super senses, but he's not Superman.

- Captain America has strength and durability in levels superhuman, but he's not Luke Cage.

Captain America: He took 7 punches of Buck (with the mechanical arm) after this he stood with his face covered in bruises, Steve seemed Rocky Balboa after fight against Apollo Creed or Ivan Drago.

Luke Cage: He took a great amount of punches of Jessica Jones ... he felt nothing, Jessica jones can't make Luke Cage bleed, Jessica jones can not even make Luke Cage get dizzy.

Jessica jones can stop a car, but her strength was useless against him. Luke Cage treat Jessica Jones like a little naughty girl.

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#196  Edited By deltahuman

@abraham700:

Yeah Steve's healing factor isn't remotely comparable to Deadpool. He hasn't shown anything like Extremis soldiers even. But i just said that since Luke Cage has vulnerability to getting life threatening injuries in vital organs even though his skin is unreachable, Cap has the ability to do that. With his shield Cap one shotted an Iron Legion Robot in Avengers Party scene of AOU. The robots are metal. So we have enough reasons to believe that Steve's shield can hurt as much as bullets do..maybe even more.

So basically what i am saying is that even if Luke Cage survived a thrashing by jessica he maynot survive a shield shot to the head or any vital area

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@nomar: Luke Cage can lift 25 tons and can survive a shotgun blast to the face when captain america got shot by winter soldier three times that pierced his flesh and was inside him. Captain America cannot take a shotgun blast to the face. he will have his brains splattered all over the pavement that looks like chunky red puke and this is coming from a captain america fan who is my favorite superhero

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Yeah a shield bash to the face, this Luke is not tanking that, not yet
AND IF he did, he is not tanking more than 1

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@supaflyfro: Are you f*****g stupid or high ???? This is MCU Luke Cage, who has absolutely ZERO feats to put him anywhere near his 616 level. That is like me saying MCU Thor can Planet bust just because he is based on his 616 counterpart

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Cap has advantages everywhere but durability.