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#1 Posted by Rebake (3943 posts) - - Show Bio

Since there's a Luke vs. Hawkeye thread and I read a claim that Widow can defeat Luke solo.

Not sure what to think so I'll see what the arguments are for both sides.

Both have access to any weapons they've used on-screen.

No prep time or basic knowledge.

Both are fighting as best as they can. No holding back.

Win by death.

10 m apart on a street in NYC.

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#2 Edited by ANTHP2000 (26816 posts) - - Show Bio

Widow shoots him in the eye and it's over. She can do that to Bucky from 60-70 ft. below, Cage is dead meat.

Or gudges his eyeball out with a knife that can slice through Chitauri metal.

There's a chance Widow's Bite would eventually put him down too. Luke's not beating no Avenger level fighters.

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#3 Posted by carlosss14 (515 posts) - - Show Bio

Luke tanks all her bullets and Kills her with one punch

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#4 Posted by carlosss14 (515 posts) - - Show Bio

bump

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#5 Posted by carlosss14 (515 posts) - - Show Bio

This is a mismatch, Luke should win with no difficulty.

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#6 Posted by RBT (27761 posts) - - Show Bio

lol. This is funny.

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#7 Posted by BladeOfFury (2923 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol

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#8 Posted by carlosss14 (515 posts) - - Show Bio
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#9 Posted by deactivated-5c830d4e319e6 (4952 posts) - - Show Bio

Luke stomps.

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#10 Posted by BladeOfFury (2923 posts) - - Show Bio

Whats funny?

The fact that

This is a mismatch, Luke should win with no difficulty.

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#11 Posted by RBT (27761 posts) - - Show Bio
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#12 Posted by mexcomics2078 (2627 posts) - - Show Bio

ends in a coffee

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#13 Posted by Letyke (291 posts) - - Show Bio

Luke stomps Black Widow hard. Everyone always says that you can just go for the eye when Claire clearly said that the experiment affected his epithelial cells and there's a layer of epithelial tissue in front of the cornea.

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#14 Posted by DSTREET45 (5279 posts) - - Show Bio

Luke.

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#15 Posted by carlosss14 (515 posts) - - Show Bio
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#16 Posted by mexcomics2078 (2627 posts) - - Show Bio
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#17 Posted by imagein (870 posts) - - Show Bio

She gets one-shotted.

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#18 Posted by BlitzSikes (1988 posts) - - Show Bio

So a guy that can

1) hold a grenade in his hand and contain the explosion with no pain

2) is bullet proof even against judas bullets now

3) tanks large explosions and walls out and makes a video

4) push kicks cars and sends them spinning

5) get some kicked through a metal barricade, through a fence, off a tall bridge into the water while paralyzed after fighting someone with super strength and taking damage AND STILL SURVIVES

6) survives boiling acid baths

7) throws 400 pound tires like they're nothing

8) faster than usain bolt

9) has a healing factor

10) AND MUCIH MORE

IS being put against Black Widow?

Clearly this is a mismatch lol

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#19 Edited by ganon15 (7092 posts) - - Show Bio

Coffee time ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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#20 Posted by nerdchore (8144 posts) - - Show Bio

Widow dies

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#21 Posted by carlosss14 (515 posts) - - Show Bio

@blitzsikes said:

So a guy that can

1) hold a grenade in his hand and contain the explosion with no pain

2) is bullet proof even against judas bullets now

3) tanks large explosions and walls out and makes a video

4) push kicks cars and sends them spinning

5) get some kicked through a metal barricade, through a fence, off a tall bridge into the water while paralyzed after fighting someone with super strength and taking damage AND STILL SURVIVES

6) survives boiling acid baths

7) throws 400 pound tires like they're nothing

8) faster than usain bolt

9) has a healing factor

10) AND MUCIH MORE

IS being put against Black Widow?

Clearly this is a mismatch lol

Well @anthp2000: doesnt think so, He claims, " Luke isn't beating any Avenger Level Hero".

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#22 Posted by plotweapon16255 (7686 posts) - - Show Bio
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#23 Posted by Lan_Fan (13150 posts) - - Show Bio

Luke wins.

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#24 Posted by foxerdes (10145 posts) - - Show Bio

How fast is Cage after scaling from Bushmaster?

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#25 Posted by deactivated-5c8fd6cb3e4f4 (18365 posts) - - Show Bio

@foxerdes said:

How fast is Cage after scaling from Bushmaster?

MFTL w/lowball

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#26 Posted by Greysentinel365 (6176 posts) - - Show Bio

Luke. Mismatch

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#27 Posted by ThunderPrince (6963 posts) - - Show Bio
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#28 Posted by RBT (27761 posts) - - Show Bio

@blitzsikes: That's where you're wrong. Luke isn't an Avenger. Nat is. So he looses.

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#29 Posted by Rebake (3943 posts) - - Show Bio

No one is willing to make a case for Nat?

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#30 Posted by carlosss14 (515 posts) - - Show Bio

@rbt: Didnt you just say this was a mismatch?

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#32 Posted by carlosss14 (515 posts) - - Show Bio

@rbt: Are you serious or are you trolling?

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#33 Posted by RBT (27761 posts) - - Show Bio

@rbt: Are you serious or are you trolling?

Dude, she is an Avenger and can shoot Luke in the eye. How is this not a stomp in her favor?

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#34 Posted by carlosss14 (515 posts) - - Show Bio

@rbt: Because she wouldn't go for an eye shot first, she would probably shoot him in his body.

then luke would deflect it back to her like he did in the warehouse.

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#35 Posted by TonyMartial (9238 posts) - - Show Bio

Luke with no difficulty whatsoever. Hes resistant to electrical energy (so the Widow bite is not doing anything) and the shooting in eye argument is absurd.

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#36 Posted by carlosss14 (515 posts) - - Show Bio

Luke with no difficulty whatsoever. Hes resistant to electrical energy (so the Widow bite is not doing anything) and the shooting in eye argument is absurd.

Basically this. idk why people are debating it.

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#37 Edited by RBT (27761 posts) - - Show Bio

@carlosss14:

Because she wouldn't go for an eye shot first, she would probably shoot him in his body.

then luke would deflect it back to her like he did in the warehouse.

I mean he did it once. It's probably not his go-to move. Nat would probably not go for an eye shot first, but she is an Agent of SHIELD and an Avenger. She is a master of tactical fighting, espionage and fighting skill. She will skillfully dodge all of Luke's hits and then shoot him in the eye. Even if she gets hit or pinned, her sheer willpower as an agent will allow her to fight through and eventually land an eye shot.

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#38 Posted by Rebake (3943 posts) - - Show Bio
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#39 Posted by geekryan (4497 posts) - - Show Bio

@rbt said:

@carlosss14:

Because she wouldn't go for an eye shot first, she would probably shoot him in his body.

then luke would deflect it back to her like he did in the warehouse.

I mean he did it once. It's probably not his go-to move. Nat would probably not go for an eye shot first, but she is an Agent of SHIELD and an Avenger. She is a master of tactical fighting, espionage and fighting skill. She will skillfully dodge all of Luke's hits and then shoot him in the eye. Even if she gets hit or pinned, her sheer willpower as an agent will allow her to fight through and eventually land an eye shot.

This. Widow is way too agile for Luke to tag, even if he does manage to close the gap.

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#40 Posted by carlosss14 (515 posts) - - Show Bio

@rbt: But the rules say he's bloodlusted so idk why he wouldn't do it.

And all luke has to do is just cover his eyes and run after her. He is faster than her

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#41 Posted by RBT (27761 posts) - - Show Bio

@rbt: But the rules say he's bloodlusted so idk why he wouldn't do it.

And all luke has to do is just cover his eyes and run after her. He is faster than her

Because he doesn't know Nat would go for his eyes. He has faced shooters countless times and never thought of closing his eyes. Why would he do that now? He doesn't know Nat is an agent of SHIELD. He doesn't know how tactical and skillful she is. On paper. Luke isn't beating an Avenger.

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#43 Posted by carlosss14 (515 posts) - - Show Bio

@rbt: But nat doesnt know, about lukes abilitys so she woud probably waste all her bullets on his body, and his eyes are bulletproof.

All he has to do is just cover his eyes and catch her, and when he does it's all over for nat.

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#44 Posted by carlosss14 (515 posts) - - Show Bio
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#45 Posted by carlosss14 (515 posts) - - Show Bio

@rbt: Yep you are officially confirmed trolling. You said Luke isnt beating any avenger level hero but, In the last thread, you said Danny could beat cap in both rounds.

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#46 Posted by Ready_4_Madness (15823 posts) - - Show Bio

Luke just taps her head and she’s out.

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#47 Posted by RBT (27761 posts) - - Show Bio

@rbt: Yep you are officially confirmed trolling. You said Luke isnt beating any avenger level hero but, In the last thread, you said Danny could beat cap in both rounds.

Danny is not Luke. And Cap is not Widow.

Plus, its not the Avenger part really. It's the agent part. Luke can probably beat someone like T'Challa in h2h(without the suit of course). Because T'Challa isn't an agent and he isn't as tactical and agenty.

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#48 Posted by carlosss14 (515 posts) - - Show Bio

@rogueshadow bro please lock this thread. Dude seriously put black widow up against a guy who tanks explosions and bullets on the daily.

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#49 Posted by Rebake (3943 posts) - - Show Bio

@carlosss14: Well, I stated my reasons for creating this thread in the first place in the op.

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#50 Posted by carlosss14 (515 posts) - - Show Bio

@rbt: So, therefore, its a mismatch, Luke as tanked far more than widow can dish out. This isn't up for debate.