Rules:
- Morals On
- Win by Incap, KO or Death
- Standard Gear
- Random Encounter
- Who Wins and Why?
Rounds:
- Speed-Equalized
- Speed-Normal
MCU Callouts:
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DCEU Callouts:
Thor or Strange could solo I think. Put them together and they certainly win. The other guys don't do much though.
Round 1: An argument could be made for either team.
Round 2: Team because speed is the deciding factor.
Not answering MCU threads.
Ok, sorry about that
@oreoghoul: All good. It's nothing personal against any of the OPs.
MCU both rounds. Doomsday and supes could get bfrd both rounds and the rest get stormbreaker to the neck.
Thor is too much for speed equalized. DCEU speed is the only thing that makes this a good fight taking it away isn’t fair
Thor or Strange could solo I think. Put them together and they certainly win. The other guys don't do much though.
MCU both rounds. Doomsday and supes could get bfrd both rounds and the rest get stormbreaker to the neck.
You gave the DCEU two extremely weak links, they lose both rounds.
Thor likely solos round 1. He might solo round 2 as well.
Mcu wins both rounds
I dont know why people keep thinking anybody is going to blitz, superman has literally never blitz someone effectively nor does he have feats to outrun lightning
Yes, he will dodge thors punches, but lightning will end him, ESPECIALLY with stormbreaker. And who here is getting past visions phasing?
Thor solos round 1. And i don't think Thor would be a statue anymore he was different in iw new weapon and other factors gave him too much perfect flight, levitation etc. I think he would adapt to speed ww and supes have and literally murder them.
R1: An argument can be made for both.
R2: DCEU wins. They are still too fast. You could say they get Stormbreakered, but that would never land on Diana or DD, let alone Supes. Strange can't BFR something that can move faster than he can react. And actually, BFR is not allowed. Diana in character is super aggresive and most likely would target the most powerful one. So Thor gets decapitated. That, or Supes targets Thor first before Diana, in which case Supes beats him also. The rest are a non factor with speed not equalized.
DCEU team wins with blitz. All MCU characters, even Thanos and Thor are still slowpokes with reflexes no different then the likes of Wanda or Black Widow.
Not anwsering speed equalized threads and questions tho. If you change basic stats of your characters, they are no longer the same characters. I mean who would win, Hulk or Joe from across the street? Strenght equalized. See what I mean? Its just dumb.
given that bfr isn't an option
R1: team JL with high diff. superman is still much stronger than anyone here. all he needs to do is avoid a direct hit from stormbreaker and Thor goes down.
Ironman isn't beating doomsday. ditto wonder woman vs hulk.
vision didn't get any new feats to suggest that aquaman can't hold him off.
I think cyborg would be able to see through doc strange's clones trick given he's a cyborg and all.
R2: an ungodly stomp for the JL team. supes pretty much clears singlehandedly.
lol at those saying Thor can "adapt" to his speed or "tag" him with lightning.
first off, Thor has never encountered any one that remotely begins to approach dceu supes lvl of speed. he couldn't even contend with quicksilver who on his best day is wonder woman tier (she was pretty much a statue compared to supes and flash btw )
secondly on the lightning bit, apart from the fact that dceu supes has been crapping out Mhs speed feats since MOS, not only would Thor not get the chance to get off a lightning blast (can't imagine that would be easy with a snapped neck), but even if he somehow managed to do so, how the hell is he gonna aim at an opponent he can't even perceive?
Ok this is the last time. After this no one answer the mcu threads. It's just illogical rabid fanbots.
Dceu win both rounds
The only power player of note on mcu team is strange but we'll get to that later.
Thor is irrelevant here in both rounds. first off even with speed equalized he has no means to harm anyone on the DCEU team.
1.) Thor has fought people with super strength greater than him and lost every single time. Two of those occasions he was beaten unconscious and in one against kurse he almost died. He has shown time and time again he can be overwhelmed with superior strength which nearly every one except maybe cyborg has on the DCEU team. They can hurt him easily with just their fist. Then you have two characters in aquaman and WW who use bladed weapons that Thor has no defense for. Hulk is the same, he has been beaten three times by characters with equal or greater strength, he has consistently been shown to succumb to sustained blunt force trauma and also can be cut as we have seen.
Vision is apparently very weak as he is an Android and was rendered useless after being stabbed through the gut with a spear. How he even feels pain is baffling as he is a machine. Cyborg on the other hand took an axe from steppanwolf and didn't even flinch, he had his leg ripped off and didn't even seem bothered, he even reattached it. Contrast to vision who was practically put down in one hit. Dianas sword will eviscerate vision, he would have to stay phased the entire time. Ironman would offensively be the biggest asset to the mcu team. He can't use physical attacks against them because they've tanked worse than what he's produced. Hulk is the only one with output to hurt anyone on the DCEU team, he just has to hit them which is highly unlikely as he could not hit Thor who has super soldier level speed.
The DCEU holds all the offensive advantages in both scenarios.
2.) He doesn't have sufficient strength to hurt any of the DCEU team who are all legitimate bricks. Again Thor's track record against enemies of superior tier is a losing one. Never has any of his attacks harmed top tier enemy to any degree outside of thanos. Thor threw his axe into Thanos chest. This would imply that it can bypass invulnerable characters if it were not for the fact that prior to this thanks was already stabbed and even had his skin cut by a physically less superior Ironman. His axe has never been tested against anyone with superior durability of Superman. Who has never been hurt unless he is poisoned by kryptonite or hit with dirty nuclear radiation, which just like in the comics poisons him and saps his body making him age rapidly into an old man.
None of the characters on the mcu team can hurt him or Diana save for maybe strange who could teleport them away. The main option of attack for the mcu team is energy weapons. They are not physically harming anyone on the DCEU squad they simply don't have the strength. Diana is an energy absorber and can absorb DD energy waves that encompass an area so large it's visible from space as a giant dome, she used this ability to even counter telekinesis and lightning attacks. She is practically immune to anything Ironman, Dr strange,vision or Thor shoots her with as her high end absorbing feats are beyond anything the 4 have produced. The two unkowns as far as defense are aquaman and Cyborg although cyborg was tanking so really good hits. We have seen the MCU players all hit by characters with regular human speed and all of them including Dr strange resort to hand to hand combat. This plays right into the DCEU teams hands. And blow for blow, their punches would kill most the mcu team characters in a few shots. These characters should be overcome rather quickly as their high end defensive feats don't add up to what the DCEU can dish out. Many point to Thor "tanking" a star beam but I can't figure if it's trolling or excitement because he didn't tank or resist it by any definition. He was cooked to the point that his skin turned black and he fell out unconscious and lay there dying. Out of respect I won't post a gif from a pirated version of the film. But as he lay there dying with rocket and Groot beginning to Mourne him, the blacksmith shouts to Groot, "quickly forge the handle, finish the hammer, before we lose him!". Thor almost died from that exposure, and he wasn't even in there but for a few moments. He had no resistance against it although his superhuman body did take longer to burn than any human would.
In short the DCEU characters all have the strength required to overpower and harm any of the mcu characters. Anyone as strong as the hulk or kurse or iron Man can physically beat any of the mcu heavy hitters unconscious. We cannot say the same for the other team. We know that nothing less than a nuke will harm Superman, who on the mcu side can output that level of damage? Even Aquaman can fall from cloud level with not even a scratch on him yet Thor was bleeding from the nose and cut on his forehead when dropped form the shield helicarrier.
Defensive advantage DCEU by large margin.
3.) Now initially I thought this was a lopsided win for the mcu in round 1 due to strange being a utility player. He reminds me of blink in days of the future past how her powers were able to keep the xmen effective by porting them all over. He could offer the same by keeping the DCEU team off balance with his clones. Then I remembered cyborg, he is constantly scanning his surroundings and taking in data. He would know which strange is real,same case for Superman who's x Ray vision would make this tactic useless.
And what further makes this a mismatch is doomsday, without even throwing a punch his body emits devastating energy waves. Wonderwoman can absorb the energy and Clark just flat out tanks it, but the mcu heroes have all been hurt by similar if not weaker attacks. They would constantly be getting assaulted all at once given the area of effect is so large it can be viewed from space as a large dome. Even if it kills cyborg and Aquaman the two defensive unkowns it will still devastate the mcu team.
Dceu takes this both rounds.
Only one useful in DCEU is Superman and just because of speed, the MCU kills everyone 1v1 while Vision/Ironman Tanks Supes for a while...Then the rest come and help him to finish the fight. Thor Oneshots Doomsday with Stormbreaker, he is not dodging it and he is not tanking it.
The others have enough strength to restraint superman like they did to Thanos.. but instead of taking Guantlet off Thor beheads him with Stormbreaker.GG
@angeljax said:
Justice League have weak links, the IW team doesn't really but Superman is too big of a MVP that it hardly matters.
DCEU team should take a comfortable enough majority for now.
He cant 1v5 them, at least not bloodlusted, he will eventually get tagged and killed. He also holds back a lot and doesnt really use his speed as much as people think, the only time he used his super combat speed is to react to flash, and to dodge ONE Steppenwolf hit, he will try to tank Stormbreaker and Die.
1- MCU. Thor MVP.
2- DCEU. Superman MVP.
@cregan_stark: Superman lifted tectonic plate in MoS. Post JL Sup. is stated stronger than planet. + Sup nearly died in Nuc. explosion because he had about 1000x reduced health because of Kryptonite.
@dianaallmighty: @dianaallmighty: Nice head canon
Supes got the kryptonite out of his system how do you think he managed to get to space if he was weakened? Especially with doomsday
And if you are going off of offscreen feats thanos destroyed a planet ? with no gems ~ captain stopped thanos’ arm for a brief moment
Conclusion cap is a continent buster
That aside offscreen feats don’t work
Also when was superman stated to be stronger than a planet? He lifted a building not the world...
@dianaallmighty: @dianaallmighty: Nice head canon
Supes got the kryptonite out of his system how do you think he managed to get to space if he was weakened? Especially with doomsday
And if you are going off of offscreen feats thanos destroyed a planet ? with no gems ~ captain stopped thanos’ arm for a brief moment
Conclusion cap is a continent buster
That aside offscreen feats don’t work
Also when was superman stated to be stronger than a planet? He lifted a building not the world...
Batman estimated his power. idk what did bruce really meant. But when was stated that Thanos on his own destroyed planet ? From movie i understood he did it with help of his outriders army
@dianaallmighty: he got the powerstone from nova Corps and destroyed the planet.
Offscreen feats mean nothing you don’t know how they happened and if the person had help or shit ton of prep
Round 1: Other than putting them in a time loop, Strange isn't much help. Though i see Thor Soloing.
Round two: Team DCEU easily. Aquaman can't beat Hulk, but he could hold him down
I can see Cyborg hacking Vision if they lock arms
I can also see him hacking Iron Man
Wonder Woman helps Cyborg kill those two if that doesn't work
Superman bodies Thor if he doesn't get hit by Stormbreaker
People who are saying he gets killed by lightning are really overestimating lightning. Lightning rarely even kills regular humans, let alone Superman.
R1) IW team. No ones soloing.
R2) Justice league rather easily if they work together.
Thor and Superman made a bet on the outcome of this, the loser had to wear his red underwear on the outside of his blue yoga pants.
Why: strange has time gem and there is no prior knowledge of this by clark... he wont know to target with an out of character fatal speed blitz.
Strange stops time, pulls thor out, DC gets ned stark treatment.
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