MCU IronSpider, Panther, and Cap vs DCEU Aquaman
DCEU
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MCU
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If Spidey web incaps Aquaman and then BP quickly stabs him with his vibration claws, then they could probably win. If not, they eventually lose.
Aquaman is as strong as Thor.

Aquaman is as strong as Thor. Aquaman Wins
LOL
@baalhaddad said:
Team without scaling
Without scaling Black Panther is just bullet proof and able to flip a car over.
if Sam scales to Steve he’s irrelevant
and Iron Spiderman being the strongest here doesnt have anything strength wise to match Aquamoa’s Gotham Harbor feat.
Speed wise even without scaling, Aquaman can create sonic booms underwater by zipping off and historically everything underwater is more impressive on land because the pressure is off.
Durability Aquamoa took a blast that destroyed a hill top.
not scaling hurts characters like Black Panther more than it does Aquamoa.
If Spidey web incaps Aquaman and then BP quickly stabs him with his vibration claws, then they could probably win. If not, they eventually lose.
If Spidey web incaps Aquaman and then BP quickly stabs him with his vibration claws, then they could probably win. If not, they eventually lose.
Aquaman is as strong as Thor. Aquaman Wins
Sure, I can definitely see Aquaman moving small moon-sized rings.
You don’t think Panther claws or vibranium wing stabs could do it once he’s webbed up?
Even the missiles and bullets should hurt him a bit right?
@ecstaticgrace: Aquaman never took a blast that could bust a hilltop, Black Manta altered the weapon's power so it would stop busting his helmet
Still that's an energy blast which did damage him good
Aquaman will struggle to tag any of them and is not capable of tagging Spidey, so he loses eventually, but it'll be very hard for the team.
MCU team takes the majority. Spidey, Cap Falcon, and the Redwings distract while morals off Panther does damage with the Vibranium claws.
Black Panther can't even touch Aquaman. Arthur's too agile with his trident to be tagged by someone like T'Challa. Spider-Man, on the other hand, can tag Arthur, whereas Falcon is a non-factor.
@ecstaticgrace: Aquaman never took a blast that could bust a hilltop, Black Manta altered the weapon's power so it would stop busting his helmet
Still that's an energy blast which did damage him good
the whole point of that hill scene was to show the damage capability of the optic blast even if you wanted to argue that Black Manta’s optic blast weren’t on that level. Aquaman took blast from those Atlantean guns in the final fight with the Karathen.
Spiderman’s webbing isn’t restraining a guy who could hold back against this momentarily
edit: I deleted the link cause it led to an inappropriate site
@ecstaticgrace: Aquaman never took a blast that could bust a hilltop, Black Manta altered the weapon's power so it would stop busting his helmet
Still that's an energy blast which did damage him good
the whole point of that hill scene was to show the damage capability of the optic blast even if you wanted to argue that Black Manta’s optic blast weren’t on that level. Aquaman took blast from those Atlantean guns in the final fight with the Karathen.
Spiderman’s webbing isn’t restraining a guy who could hold back against this momentarily
https://www.redgifs.com/watch/blondparallelatlanticsharpnosepuffer
But then tell me what was the point of that same hillbusting tech destroying his helmet?
As for your other feat where he took those blue blaster bolts, he was armored so it's different from Manta's beam where he wasn't. When he wasn't armored even the shockwave of one of those blaster bolts was enough to stun him for like ten seconds or more.
Scaling Aquaman from Atlantean tech is unreasonable considering Wan said
"Atlantian technology can cripple him for sure. It can really destroy him."
Which is interesting because he got one-shot via charged punch by one of the Atlantean RedGuard.
For your gif, you know better to use hydrokinesis as a stat.
@achillesspawn: Them suits get taken out by grenades. Aquamoa>>>>>grenade.
@ecstaticgrace: Aquaman never took a blast that could bust a hilltop, Black Manta altered the weapon's power so it would stop busting his helmet
Still that's an energy blast which did damage him good
the whole point of that hill scene was to show the damage capability of the optic blast even if you wanted to argue that Black Manta’s optic blast weren’t on that level. Aquaman took blast from those Atlantean guns in the final fight with the Karathen.
Spiderman’s webbing isn’t restraining a guy who could hold back against this momentarily
https://www.redgifs.com/watch/blondparallelatlanticsharpnosepuffer
But then tell me what was the point of that same hillbusting tech destroying his helmet?
As for your other feat where he took those blue blaster bolts, he was armored so it's different from Manta's beam where he wasn't. When he wasn't armored even the shockwave of one of those blaster bolts was enough to stun him for like ten seconds or more.
Scaling Aquaman from Atlantean tech is unreasonable considering Wan said
"Atlantian technology can cripple him for sure. It can really destroy him."
Which is interesting because he got one-shot via charged punch by one of the Atlantean RedGuard.
For your gif, you know better to use hydrokinesis as a stat.
Start at 2:10
I mean none of what you said counters the fact Aquaman did get shot by an Atlantean gun in his full armor and was practically fine from the same weapon that we saw destroy a hill top. your dancing around that. I already said forget about Manta if you want to pretend he wasn’t firing with the same output. Because regardless of what Wan said we see Aquaman get hit by an Atlantean gun and all it does is push him back lol.
Aquaman is using his trident to create a barrier but he’s physically trying to prevent the barrier from getting pushed through. We see it with his stance and grunting that it was a physical feat. The team have no strength feats and Spidey’s webbing isn’t restraining someone who can temporarily hold back the Gotham harbor
Start at 1:15/1:20
It also physically moves him while Aquaman is physically grunting..
Mad curious to what feat you guys think makes it so the trident won’t go through Black Panther..
I think the trident with a good thrust would probably beat Panther armor.
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If I could just point out a couple feats that might be considered in this fight.
Spiderman.

Thos are strong webs..and he’s holding one in each hand.
Dodges automatic gunfire from 8 drones, in a hallway, blind.
He has a bunch of other strength and speed and web feats.. like webbing a thanos’s eyes.. web and speed is were he will be most useful.
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Panther
Falcon
- Redwing use missiles. He has 3 redwings FATWS
- Wrist rocket. CW
- Wrist fired explosive magnetic disk.FATWS
- Shoulder mounted missiles. CW
- Aerial strike missiles. CW
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IDK I think it’s a pretty good fight, do you think webs would slow Aquaman down?
@ecstaticgrace: Aquaman never took a blast that could bust a hilltop, Black Manta altered the weapon's power so it would stop busting his helmet
Still that's an energy blast which did damage him good
the whole point of that hill scene was to show the damage capability of the optic blast even if you wanted to argue that Black Manta’s optic blast weren’t on that level. Aquaman took blast from those Atlantean guns in the final fight with the Karathen.
Spiderman’s webbing isn’t restraining a guy who could hold back against this momentarily
https://www.redgifs.com/watch/blondparallelatlanticsharpnosepuffer
But then tell me what was the point of that same hillbusting tech destroying his helmet?
As for your other feat where he took those blue blaster bolts, he was armored so it's different from Manta's beam where he wasn't. When he wasn't armored even the shockwave of one of those blaster bolts was enough to stun him for like ten seconds or more.
Scaling Aquaman from Atlantean tech is unreasonable considering Wan said
"Atlantian technology can cripple him for sure. It can really destroy him."
Which is interesting because he got one-shot via charged punch by one of the Atlantean RedGuard.
For your gif, you know better to use hydrokinesis as a stat.
I mean none of what you said counters the fact Aquaman did get shot by an Atlantean gun in his full armor
Ye and that gun has what feats?
and was practically fine

from the same weapon that we saw destroy a hill top. your dancing around that.
But it wasn't the same weapon. It was untested technology, IIRC.
I already said forget about Manta if you want to pretend he wasn’t firing with the same output.
He couldn't be. If he did, he would have blown up his helmet. In fact isn't that how Manta's helmet got rekt, by the shockwave of a blast strong enough to bust an iron ball?
Because regardless of what Wan said we see Aquaman get hit by an Atlantean gun and all it does is push him back lol.
Did you see what I said about the Atlantean gun? He had armor protecting him in that instance. When he didn't have armor, he wasn't able to rep. And he was a good distance away from the epicenter of the blast there too lol.
We should pay attention to what Wan said. It explains why Manta's beam injured him, why the shockwave of a gun blast stunned him, why he was subdued with a single Atlantean lance, why he got KOed by a single energy-amped punch. What's the magic word? Consistency!
Aquaman is using his trident to create a barrier but he’s physically trying to prevent the barrier from getting pushed through. We see it with his stance and grunting that it was a physical feat.
People can exert themselves in non-physical hydrokinetic ways. Surely you've seen Mera!
He's not physically touching the water, so it can't be used as a press feat.
The team have no strength feats and Spidey’s webbing isn’t restraining someone who can temporarily hold back the Gotham harbor
Spidey and his webbing have strength feats but Aquaman did not hold back the entire harbor lool.
It also physically moves him while Aquaman is physically grunting..
Yes, because his hydrokinesis has limits. Aquaman uses hydrokinesis in his solo too, though with far more technique and much less water.
Anyway Falcon's laser can likely injure him since we know Atlantean (Arthur/Orm/Mera) heat durability isn't enough for them to survive a lava bath.
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