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#1 Edited by hulkuberstomp (1791 posts) - - Show Bio
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Civil War Armor Iron Man

No flight or weapons for Tony

No prep

Round 1)Axeman(resident evil movie version)Standart gear

Round 2)Luke Cage(MCU)

Round 3)T-800(Genesis)

Round 4)Frost Giant MCU

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#2 Posted by RBT (29308 posts) - - Show Bio

Dont know about 1. Stops at 2

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#3 Posted by Tony_Shark (2126 posts) - - Show Bio

The second weakest Iron Man armor.

1) Wins

2) Wins. Cage can't damage Tony much, but Tony can eventually give him head trauma

3) Loses

4) Loses

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#4 Edited by GCPD (421 posts) - - Show Bio

@tony_shark: lol what ?

Tony wins all rounds here.

loses against frost giant ? nah man ...

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#5 Edited by GCPD (421 posts) - - Show Bio

I think this list it out of order. Luke should be above T-800 or Am I missing something.

stomps round 1.

beats luke cage, due due better strength and better durability feats.

beats t-800. better strength, speed and durability.

A casual frost giant is the last opponent ? Cmon man ... Tony stomps.

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#6 Posted by Rockette (6026 posts) - - Show Bio

Tony clears.

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#8 Posted by Theanalyser (1389 posts) - - Show Bio

@rockette said:

Tony clears.

Its h2h, hes not clearing here

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#9 Posted by blackpantherisb (7340 posts) - - Show Bio

Clears

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#10 Edited by Rockette (6026 posts) - - Show Bio

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@theanalyser said:
@rockette said:

Tony clears.

Its h2h, hes not clearing here

Yes, yes he DOES Clear. Faster, stronger, rocket assisted attacks (said NO Flight, didn't say NO thrust assisted attacks), analyzing computer that maps attacks after a min, and turns it into a type of "precog" (why he beat Cap and Bucky 1 - 2 in h2h.

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#11 Posted by Theanalyser (1389 posts) - - Show Bio

@rockette said:

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@theanalyser said:
@rockette said:

Tony clears.

Its h2h, hes not clearing here

Yes, yes he DOES Clear. Faster, stronger, rocket assisted attacks (said NO Flight, didn't say thrust assisted attacks), analyzing computer that maps attacks after a min, and turns it into a type of "precog" (why he beat Cap and Bucky 1 - 2 in h2h.

Read the OP, its h2h, tony can't use those type of attacks

And there is nothing stopping the frost giant from freezing him to death

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#12 Edited by GCPD (421 posts) - - Show Bio

@theanalyser:

A frost Giant isnt beating tony in anything. Even the Axeman would put a frost Giant down LMAO.

Every Member of Thors fodder Team managed to beat at least 2-3 of them.

hell even Bucky can kill a frost Giant and probably easily.

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#13 Posted by Rockette (6026 posts) - - Show Bio

@rockette said:

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@theanalyser said:
@rockette said:

Tony clears.

Its h2h, hes not clearing here

Yes, yes he DOES Clear. Faster, stronger, rocket assisted attacks (said NO Flight, didn't say thrust assisted attacks), analyzing computer that maps attacks after a min, and turns it into a type of "precog" (why he beat Cap and Bucky 1 - 2 in h2h.

Read the OP, its h2h, tony can't use those type of attacks

And there is nothing stopping the frost giant from freezing him to death

OP says no flight. That's it. Doesn't say no boosting, thrust, he just can't "fly" aka go airborne.

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#14 Posted by nfactor1995 (13003 posts) - - Show Bio

@gcpd:

Every Member of Thors fodder Team managed to beat at least 2-3 of them

Who on Thor's team was fodder?

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#15 Posted by Tony_Shark (2126 posts) - - Show Bio

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@tony_shark: lol what ?

Tony wins all rounds here.

loses against frost giant ? nah man ...

Hmm. you're right on the frost giant. Loki was taking them out.

h2h is tricky since this armor has horrible feats in CW, so that's why i thought he'd lose

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#16 Posted by Rockette (6026 posts) - - Show Bio

@gcpd said:

@tony_shark: lol what ?

Tony wins all rounds here.

loses against frost giant ? nah man ...

Hmm. you're right on the frost giant. Loki was taking them out.

h2h is tricky since this armor has horrible feats in CW, so that's why i thought he'd lose

I honestly think Axeman in Round one could be his biggest threat. That Hammer/Axe was devastating, and he was no slouch.

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#17 Posted by hulkuberstomp (1791 posts) - - Show Bio

Civil War armor is the weakest armor

Even Axeman>>Civil War iron man in strength

Axeman>>Cap=>Iron Man

Axeman was able to chop huge bus like a soda can with his giant axe.See no reason why he will not be able to rip tony in half with his axe

T-800>>>MCU Cap and Bucky>This armor in strength

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#18 Posted by GCPD (421 posts) - - Show Bio

@gcpd said:

@tony_shark: lol what ?

Tony wins all rounds here.

loses against frost giant ? nah man ...

Hmm. you're right on the frost giant. Loki was taking them out.

h2h is tricky since this armor has horrible feats in CW, so that's why i thought he'd lose

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#19 Posted by GCPD (421 posts) - - Show Bio

@rockette: yea I agree. he should have enough strength to hurt Iron Man with those swings.

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#20 Posted by GCPD (421 posts) - - Show Bio

@hulkuberstomp: Axeman isnt stronger than Tony.

Axeman isnt beating Cap and Bucky in a million years either. He would never tag them, while they can rag doll him across the field.

The Axe can probably hurt Tony, but definitely not rip him in half.

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#21 Posted by hulkuberstomp (1791 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap > Tony in strength

Axeman>Cap in stenght

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#22 Posted by GCPD (421 posts) - - Show Bio

@hulkuberstomp: lol what ?

hell no ... Tony > Steve > Axeman

Axeman and steve are debatable in strength but steve should have the superior strength feats.

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#23 Posted by hulkuberstomp (1791 posts) - - Show Bio

Axeman tossed 500 kg axe like nothing and was able to chop cars and huge bus in half>>>any Cap's feats of strength

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#24 Posted by Ready_4_Madness (17223 posts) - - Show Bio

This suit was weak

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#25 Edited by GCPD (421 posts) - - Show Bio

@hulkuberstomp: where the fuck did you get the 500 kg from ? Im pretty sure the axe isnt that heavy.

And just because he cuts through sheet metal and pads doesnt mean he can cut iron man armor which is mainly made out of titanium.

He is not cutting through that armor in a million years.

And Axeman is not stronger than cap. Cap did multi ton feats.

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#26 Edited by GCPD (421 posts) - - Show Bio

@hulkuberstomp: Also Axeman is going down here.

you wanna tell me that the characters who lost to claire beats Iron Man ? nah dude ...

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#27 Posted by WordWarrior (1084 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at round 2. Bucky was crushing his armor and Cap was moving him with his hits. Luke will demolish him

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#28 Posted by Tony_Shark (2126 posts) - - Show Bio

@Knowledge_King: Nah. Luke's strength feats aren't as good as Caps. Also, Cap was the only who damaged his armor via the shield. Luke was put into a coma from a shotgun blast, I'm sure Tony can induce enough trauma there. Even Cap only took a couple of direct punches to the head before he was bleeding and ready to drop.

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#29 Posted by RBT (29308 posts) - - Show Bio

@Knowledge_King: Nah. Luke's strength feats aren't as good as Caps. Also, Cap was the only who damaged his armor via the shield. Luke was put into a coma from a shotgun blast, I'm sure Tony can induce enough trauma there. Even Cap only took a couple of direct punches to the head before he was bleeding and ready to drop.

Luke knocked out a guy by tapping him on his head and stopped a SUV going at least 40mph right on impact. Steve is nowhere near as strong as Luke.

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#30 Posted by WordWarrior (1084 posts) - - Show Bio

@Knowledge_King: Nah. Luke's strength feats aren't as good as Caps. Also, Cap was the only who damaged his armor via the shield. Luke was put into a coma from a shotgun blast, I'm sure Tony can induce enough trauma there. Even Cap only took a couple of direct punches to the head before he was bleeding and ready to drop.

Luke hits so hard he leaves craters in huge vans. He also has the feats RBT mentioned where he KOs people by tapping them on the head and stopping that truck going at 40-60 mph.

Oh and Luke was factually weaker in Jessica Jones. Since then he's taken much more trauma, such as being punched through huge vans. Remember Iron Man's arm was broken from a car falling on it. Also of note, Jessica was able to shield herself from Luke by using a car door. In Luke Cage, Luke casually punches through those.

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#32 Edited by GCPD (421 posts) - - Show Bio

@Knowledge_King: Luke is not taking Iron Man down.

Luke cant hold a candle to Iron Man when it comes to overall power. He is not stopping at 2.

The only reason, why Cap broke Iron Mans Armor was because he had the shield.

Luke cant punch through Car doors and even if he could that would mean absolutely nothing. The Fact that he barely dented the car doors with 5-10 full force hammerfists just shows that he cant dmg Tonys armor.

Cap has way better dmg output feats with the shield.

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#33 Posted by WordWarrior (1084 posts) - - Show Bio

@gcpd said:

@Knowledge_King: Luke is not taking Iron Man down.

Luke cant hold a candle to Iron Man when it comes to overall power. He is not stopping at 2.

The only reason, why Cap broke Iron Mans Armor was because he had the shield.

Luke cant punch through Car doors and even if he could that would mean absolutely nothing. The Fact that he barely dented the car doors with 5-10 full force hammerfists just shows that he cant dmg Tonys armor.

Cap has way better dmg output feats with the shield.

You're forgetting that Bucky crushed Iron Man's arm and he has feats far below Luke.

Oh and Luke has better feats than Cap does with his shield.

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Those two alone put him above Cap. Far and away too.

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#34 Edited by GCPD (421 posts) - - Show Bio

@Knowledge_King:

No they dont.

Cap went right through Ultrons pre Vibranium armor with a shield throw and broke Iron Mans helmet with 1-2 shield strikes even while holding back his whole strength.

Bucky cracked asphalt with a punch and Bucky overpowering Iron Man is bullshit. Iron Man caught one of Buckys punches seconds earlier like spider-man did against him.

Luke is not breaking Iron Mans helmet with those fodder feats. Cap basically did both of those feats you posted in here, without any problem and he couldnt scratch tonys armor with his punches.

He casually sends people flying with his punches and kicks, threw a motorcycle and punched a punching bag several meters away and ruined it in the process.

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#35 Posted by Superhero24 (4766 posts) - - Show Bio

He stops at round 3. Although Luke might be able to put tony down in h2h, It isn't likely. I don't even think Luke is a better fighter than Tony.

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@gcpd said:

@Knowledge_King:

No they dont.

Cap went right through Ultrons pre Vibranium armor with a shield throw and broke Iron Mans helmet with 1-2 shield strikes even while holding back his whole strength.

Bucky cracked asphalt with a punch and Bucky overpowering Iron Man is bullshit. Iron Man caught one of Buckys punches seconds earlier like spider-man did against him.

Luke is not breaking Iron Mans helmet with those fodder feats. Cap basically did both of those feats you posted in here, without any problem and he couldnt scratch tonys armor with his punches.

He casually sends people flying with his punches and kicks, threw a motorcycle and punched a punching bag several meters away and ruined it in the process.

Yes they do. Cap's shield didn't go right through Ultron at all. It made a small incision. That's worse than Luke's car feat. So his breaking Iron Man's helmet. Iron Man's taken down by falling cars.

Cracking asphalt <<<<destroying the van like Luke and Diamondback did.

Oh and Cap's never gotten close to those two feats.

Throwing a motorcycle means nothing, one thrown by a stronger person bounced off of Luke. Also we can see what happens when Cap hits people into cars.

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Basically nothing compared to Luke. Luke's magnitudes above him and WS.

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#38 Posted by hulkuberstomp (1791 posts) - - Show Bio

They took the axemen on by using weapons and the environment(fuel tankers etc.)

Also Axeman has MUCH better durability feats than thats of Cap and Bucky.He tanked bullets into face and even Alice's punches werent able to even hurt him(I know that alice was depowered,but still her punches are stronger than Black Widow's)

Im not saying that Axeman is gonna beat Cap.But he has much better feats of strength and durability

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#39 Edited by hulkuberstomp (1791 posts) - - Show Bio

Bucky's arm was able to damage his armor

Axe>>>Bucky's arm(i doubt that his arm can tear cars apart)

Axeman can knock Iron Man down and that smash him with his axe

Also size/weight difference is too big

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#40 Edited by GCPD (421 posts) - - Show Bio

How is the Car feat more impressive than a small incision in steel ? The shield was literally stuck in his body. The Car feat isnt that impressive ... its sheet metal and it was only caved in.

And its definitely not more impressive than the cracking asphalt with a Punch. you must be delusional. Luke barely caved a car door in with like 10 punches when Jessica was holding the Door.

The Bike bouncing off luke, just means he has better durability. If Cap threw that Bike at him he would be down on the ground. Even jessica was able to bodyslam him into the ground.

Cap destroyed a whole military car with that motorcycle feat.

Luke has one impressive feats and thats the forehead tap and a good durability feat (SUV block)

Cap > Luke mid difficulty

Iron Man obliterates Luke.

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#41 Posted by buildhare (8758 posts) - - Show Bio

Clears easily, by virtue of superior stats and vastly better skills with movement scanning.

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#42 Edited by DammeFavour (8502 posts) - - Show Bio

@gcpd: except the bike feat wasn't a strength one. He used the momentum of the bike the same way u can slam someone running at u through a table but can't actually destroy the table yourself

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#43 Edited by GCPD (421 posts) - - Show Bio

@DammeFavour: I dont think so. If you rewatch the scene you can see that the Bike slows down moments before he lifts it and throws it.

Here when he is midair, the bike is literally standing still and you can hear the brakes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsWyLwj6r2k

skip to 1:51

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#44 Posted by GCPD (421 posts) - - Show Bio

Clears easily, by virtue of superior stats and vastly better skills with movement scanning.

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#45 Posted by hulkuberstomp (1791 posts) - - Show Bio

Clears easily, by virtue of superior stats and vastly better skills with movement scanning.

Lol

Bucky overpowered him multiple times,how the hell he is stronger even than Axeman?

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#46 Posted by Tony_Shark (2126 posts) - - Show Bio

@buildhare said:

Clears easily, by virtue of superior stats and vastly better skills with movement scanning.

Lol

Bucky overpowered him multiple times,how the hell he is stronger even than Axeman?

That Bucky feat is honestly garbage. I am not denying it happened, but like it just makes no sense.

Earlier in the movie, Black Panther manhandled Bucky on different occasions. There's a part where the sends Bucky flying down the stairs with one kick, and that was without the suit.

Like the Russo brothers did great on the 2h2 stuff, but they lowballed pretty much everyone else.

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#47 Posted by RBT (29308 posts) - - Show Bio

@hulkuberstomp said:
@buildhare said:

Clears easily, by virtue of superior stats and vastly better skills with movement scanning.

Lol

Bucky overpowered him multiple times,how the hell he is stronger even than Axeman?

That Bucky feat is honestly garbage. I am not denying it happened, but like it just makes no sense.

Earlier in the movie, Black Panther manhandled Bucky on different occasions. There's a part where the sends Bucky flying down the stairs with one kick, and that was without the suit.

Like the Russo brothers did great on the 2h2 stuff, but they lowballed pretty much everyone else.

T'Challa was overpowering pretty much anyone he went against. IIRC, he overpowered Steve as well. And, Tony getting repetedly overpowered by Bucky was intentional, IMO. They wanted to show that Tony wasn't wearing one of his better suits, so the fight would not totally be one sided. Tony held his own in battle because of his durability.

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#48 Posted by deactivated-5a84a212043e5 (2790 posts) - - Show Bio

The second weakest Iron Man armor.

No kidding. "Go stop your superhuman friend," "OK, let me grab my plastic pos armor" I'm surprised it didn't get punched once and do this

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