MCU Iron Monger runs Arm wrestling gauntlet

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Round 1)MCU Captain America

Round 2)Civil War Iron Man(MCU)

Round 3)T-850

Round 4)MCU War Machine Mk 3

Round 5)DCEU Faora

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Stops at 2. Iron Man is a 68 tonner.

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#3  Edited By hulkuberstomp

@adriusus: LOL.Bucky overpowered him multiple times.How the hell he is 70 tonner?

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#4  Edited By Adriusus

@hulkuberstomp: Bucky overpowering him was just for the plot and entertainment purposes. If it didn't happen, he could have taken Bucky and Captain America quickly. The Russos wanted an interesting fight and made them equal to each other, so that's why. That overpowering is BS PIS.

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@hulkuberstomp: Agreed, it got damaged by falling vehicles, I keep on forgetting this. Stops at 4.

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Yep ^^. Should stop at 4, assuming War Machine Mk. 3 is any stronger than or at least as strong as the Mk. 2.

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Stops at 5. War Machine got his ass kicked by Cap.

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Stops at 2

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Stops at 5. (or maybe 3 I don't recall T-850's strength feats).
Also War Machine mk3 shouldn't be above Iron Man mark 46. WM mark 1 should be here (cause Rhodey lifted a tank wearing it). In that case Iron Monger stops at 4

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@g2_ said:

Stops at 5. War Machine got his ass kicked by Cap.

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Not getting past Faora.

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@buildhare: lol what?Bucky ovewrpowerd him easely.Iron Monger>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bucky in strength

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Stops at 5.

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@hulkuberstomp:

Iron Monger only overpowered a low energy first Gen Iron Man suit (I.e, less then ten tons in lifting strength).

After that he got his 30-60 ton feats

Even if you want to argue he was six times weaker then usual (which yes, is completely false) he'd still likely win an arm wrestle.

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#17  Edited By hulkuberstomp

@buildhare said:

@hulkuberstomp:

Iron Monger only overpowered a low energy first Gen Iron Man suit (I.e, less then ten tons in lifting strength).

After that he got his 30-60 ton feats

Even if you want to argue he was six times weaker then usual (which yes, is completely false) he'd still likely win an arm wrestle.

He has 70 ton feat in his other suit.His civil war suit has zero strength feats to claim him even 10 tonner.

Also.Do you really think that Bucky is stronger than Iron Monger?

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#18  Edited By buildhare

@hulkuberstomp:

He has 70 ton feat in his other suit.His civil war suit has zero strength feats to claim him even 10 tonner.

Apply a little bit of logic here. Do you seriously believe he got seven times weaker in between AOU in Civil war? Even when War-Machine is in a suit that is confirmed 60+ tons?

Also.Do you really think that Bucky is stronger than Iron Monger?

No. Bucky overpowering Tony with his organic arm while he's shooting is an inconsistency.

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@buildhare: No.New armor=/=stronger

Tony has different armors with deferent durablity and strength.Civil war armor was much lighter and less powerful than MK 6 armor

That's why:MK 6 armor was able to move 500 ton turbine whyle,cap was able to hold down his Civil war armor with ease.

Civil war armor was damaged by falling car,whyle mk 3 armor withstood impact with 30 ton jet on supersonic speed without damage.

What's about WarMachine:This armoris much heavier and thicker than Iron Man's civilwar armor.

Bucky overpowered his armor several times.Because bucku is stronger than this shitty armor.Iron Monger>>>>>>>>>>>Bucky and Cap combined

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@hulkuberstomp:

New armor=/=stronger

I'm not saying it does (although obviously there is a tendency for newer models to be better). What I'm trying to get you to grasp is that while the new armour might not necessarily be stronger solely due to being new, assuming it's six times weaker is flat out bullshit.

That's why:MK 6 armor was able to move 500 ton turbine

That's barely a strength feat for Tony at all. The thrusters do 98% of the work, watch the clip again.

cap was able to hold down his Civil war armor with ease.

Cap never physically held down or restrained Tony. The closest thing is when he overwhelmed him with his shield.

What's about WarMachine:This armoris much heavier and thicker than Iron Man's civilwar armor.

Means less then nothing. Rhodey's suit is bigger because it has to accommodate a lot more standard guns and armaments then Tony's far more streamlined suits. It's got no impact on strength, and very little on speed.

Bucky overpowered his armor several times.Because bucku is stronger than this shitty armor

He overpowered it once with his normal arm (which as I've already admitted is an inconsistency depending on how we see Tony firing his repulsors effecting his concentration. I don't see much issue with his bionic arm overpowering Tony temporarily given what it's done to Cap.

You're also ignoring the fact that Tony completely restrained Bucky a couple of times with strength alone.

Iron Monger>>>>>>>>>>>Bucky and Cap combined

Based on nothing. Warmonger likely isn't that high into the double digits in terms of lifting tonnage.

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#21  Edited By hulkuberstomp

@buildhare: 1)Cap hold Tony's leg when he was going to kill bucky and didnt allow him to fly.It means that Civil War armor's thrusters are much weaker than that of Mk 6

2)Iron Monger>>>>>>>>Bucky's metal arm.Not even comparable:

Iron Monger has sent speeding car flying with a single casual puch without even trying.He EASELY crashed MK 3 armor's helmet and armor plates,whyle bucky left a small dent with difficulty on less durable civil war armor.

Cap's best strengt feat was when he hold down helicopter(2-5 ton feat).Not evenclose to Obadiah's strength level

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@hulkuberstomp:

1)Cap hold Tony's leg when he was going to kill bucky and didnt allow him to fly.It means that Civil War armor's thrusters are much weaker than that of Mk 6

Tony was flying from one side of the room to another, there's no way he had nearly as much power behind his thrusters in that moment then he did when he pushed the turbine.

Iron Monger has sent speeding car flying with a single casual puch without even trying.

You're wrong on both counts;

  1. The fact he sent it flying. He essentially lifted the front of a car, it had all of the momentum that pushed it forwards and gave you the impression he sent it flying.
  2. He clearly used some effort

He EASELY crashed MK 3 armor's helmet and armor plates,whyle bucky left a small dent with difficulty on less durable civil war armor.

The MK3 was and is inferior, and Obidiah fought it at its absolute weakest.

Cap's best strengt feat was when he hold down helicopter(2-5 ton feat).

It's a 10 ton feat.

Not evenclose to Obadiah's strength level

How strong do you think he is? Give me a figure.

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#23  Edited By hulkuberstomp

@buildhare: 1)Tony was trying to fly=he used full power of his suit(just a simple logic)

2)Rewatch the fight.He EASEY punched it into air with a sigle punch.Even that fact that he was ableto lift side of 2 ton speeding car makes him much stronger than cap or bucky.

3)Weaker in strength?debatable.But his durability was still greater than thats of Civil War armor

4)Obadiah was powered by new reactor.Don't see why he is not superior to regular IM's armor even with full powered reactor.Because he is MUCH bigger and has much bigger and stronger Hydraulics.

5)Based on what?Why do you think it was 10 ton feat?This helicopter can lift a bit more than2 tons.

6)I think he is 50 tonner at least.But maybe stronger(due to his superior size)And what do you think?How strong is he?

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#24  Edited By GraniteVision

Stops at Faora

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War Machine Mark I casually lifted a huge ass tank (I’ve seen calcs suggesting it was anywhere from 30-60 tons easy) and he carried it completely above himself. Again no difficulty at all. Ignoring the WM Mark II, his Mark III suit has shown it is at least capable of everything the previous suits could do if not maybe even be past it. There may be a reason why it is Rhodey’s only suit for two major movies. In the time period it was made, the only other suits Tony had were the Mark 43 and 44 plus the Iron Legion drones.

So yeah, I would say with minimal scaling it’s a hard stop at 4. What has Stane besides lifting cars to prove otherwise?

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Should stop at Rhodes, definitely stops at Faora.