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#1 Posted by HATSoffMELO (2555 posts) - - Show Bio
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  • start 50m apart
  • win by Death KO Incap
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#2 Edited by PayneInTheAss (10884 posts) - - Show Bio

Come on, Tony is not on this level.

Zod has the speed, skill, strenght and durability over him.

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#3 Posted by The_Kidd (11544 posts) - - Show Bio

Come on, Tony is not on this level.

Zod has the speed, skill, strenght and durability over him.

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#4 Posted by Early_Cuyler (82 posts) - - Show Bio

Zod with an easy stomp. He would just blitz, rip his armor off, and heat vision Tony's face.

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#5 Posted by plotweapon16255 (7321 posts) - - Show Bio

Zod with an easy stomp. He would just blitz, rip his armor off, and heat vision Tony's face.

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#6 Posted by Saint_of_Origin (4706 posts) - - Show Bio

Tony in a tough fight. Zod has a speed advantage, but Tony edges out in durability. Zod's speed is not going to get him too far with this version of Tony. Infinity War Spoilers below.

Tony's new armor withstood a power gem blast from Thanos, and also just about no-sold a huge chunk of planetoid hitting him, and all it ended up doing was pissing him off.

Not to mention Tony fights a lot smarter than Zod, and has much more versatility here. It's not going to be easy for him, but I think he edges out a majority.

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#9 Posted by TonyMartial (8379 posts) - - Show Bio

@saint_of_origin: Tonys a smart fighter yet he uses a repulsor blast instead of lasers in a bloodlusted state.

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#10 Posted by Saint_of_Origin (4706 posts) - - Show Bio

@saint_of_origin: Tonys a smart fighter yet he uses a repulsor blast instead of lasers in a bloodlusted state.

Logic tends to go out the window when bloodlusted. If you've seen IW, you'd see how he fought consistently in that movie. And Zod is not going to do much to Tony with this new armor. Whereas Tony can stagger Thanos with his blows. Zod will lose in a long drawn out battle. Like I said, not easy for Tony at all. But Zod's only major advantage is speed, and that's not enough for him to pull a win.

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#11 Posted by TonyMartial (8379 posts) - - Show Bio

@saint_of_origin: A guy who can tank re-entry while being punched by Supes is not getting put down by Tony. He gets ripped apart. Doesnt change the fact that he was bloodlusted and used rockets earlier but no I'm a genius and im going to use a repulsor burst.

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#12 Posted by Avatar_of_Gaea (572 posts) - - Show Bio

Don't see how Tony wins this at all

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#13 Posted by Saint_of_Origin (4706 posts) - - Show Bio

@saint_of_origin: A guy who can tank re-entry while being punched by Supes is not getting put down by Tony. He gets ripped apart. Doesnt change the fact that he was bloodlusted and used rockets earlier but no I'm a genius and im going to use a repulsor burst.

Considering Tony can trade blows with Thanos, I'd say yes, he is hurting Zod. My point is that being bloodlusted you generally don't think much. So it doesn't matter what he did or didn't do when bloodlusted because the whole point of that is you're generally doing the first thing to come to mind.

Don't see how Tony wins this at all

By outlasting Zod? Tony can do more to Zod than Zod can to Tony.

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#14 Posted by Lunacyde (27979 posts) - - Show Bio

Zod says "all this for a drop of blood" and blitzes Tony into oblivion.

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#15 Posted by TonyMartial (8379 posts) - - Show Bio

@saint_of_origin: You need to rewatch the film. Trade Blows? You do realise Thanos didnt get serious until Tony got that single drop of blood out of him. He even mocks him "all that for a drop of blood" Afterwards, Thanos is shredding Tony faster than he can repair and ends up stabbing him.

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#16 Posted by Greysentinel365 (5760 posts) - - Show Bio

Zod curbstomps. Tony can’t harm him and gets his mask punched off followed by his face being shattered.

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#17 Posted by Saint_of_Origin (4706 posts) - - Show Bio

@saint_of_origin: You need to rewatch the film. Trade Blows? You do realise Thanos didnt get serious until Tony got that single drop of blood out of him. He even mocks him "all that for a drop of blood" Afterwards, Thanos is shredding Tony faster than he can repair and ends up stabbing him.

And Thanos >>> Zod. Your argument that Thanos beat Tony does not mean Zod will.

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#18 Edited by Crunch5481 (870 posts) - - Show Bio

No way Tony wins. The only way Superman (who’s way stronger than Iron Man) was able to put Zod down was with a neck snap. Something Iron Man cannot replicate. Iron Man gets beaten down. Tony was even bleeding inside his suit when he fought Thanos, no way he wins this. He’s not fast enough either.

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#19 Posted by Worldofthunder (5055 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol Zod curbstomps

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#21 Posted by RudeBomberBoy01 (4475 posts) - - Show Bio

The only thing Zod has over IW Tony is speed.

I'd back Tony here.

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#22 Posted by FromBeyond (1041 posts) - - Show Bio

No prep for Tony = No win for Tony.

Give him a few days to make a Zod-buster suit then yeah maybe.

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#23 Posted by Saint_of_Origin (4706 posts) - - Show Bio
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#26 Edited by Caesar16 (184 posts) - - Show Bio

How does Tony stands a chance here ?

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#27 Posted by g2_ (11241 posts) - - Show Bio

Zod wins.

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#28 Posted by GateOfBabylon (3415 posts) - - Show Bio

Come on, Tony is not on this level.

Zod has the speed, skill, strenght and durability over him.

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#29 Posted by Saint_of_Origin (4706 posts) - - Show Bio

@rudebomberboy01: @saint_of_origin: scans/gifs to support your statements?

IW GIFs aren't really out there yet. But spoilers ahead:

Iron Man held off a focused power stone blast from Thanos using the IG. The same power stone was used to pull a moon and destroy it into smaller fragments to bombard the team. A large fragment then proceeded to directly impact Tony after falling from orbit, and it didn't even scratch his armor and only served to annoy him. Zod falling from orbit while fighting Supes isn't as impressive as these feats when taken together.

Tony traded blows with Thanos and was able to stagger him with some pretty impressive combos, which showed off Tony's new armor versatility as well as the raw striking power. It's not one shotting Zod, but it's definitely hurting him more than he can hurt Tony. Not to mention Tony's armaments seem infinitely more impressive in this film than in past films, and while again, they're not doing serious harm to Zod, they're doing more than Zod is to Tony.

These taken all in one lead me to believe it's going to be a long drawn out battle with mostly chip damage being done to either combatant, and Tony's suit can repair faster than Zod can recover. So anything Zod does isn't really going to last anyway.

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#30 Posted by RL4 (1700 posts) - - Show Bio

Zod, but it’s not a stomp. Any other armor and he’d oneshot Tony, twoshot in the HB Armor. Here they trade blows for about a minute before Zod overwhelms the armor.

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#31 Posted by Saint_of_Origin (4706 posts) - - Show Bio

@rl4 said:

Zod, but it’s not a stomp. Any other armor and he’d oneshot Tony, twoshot in the HB Armor. Here they trade blows for about a minute before Zod overwhelms the armor.

What has Zod shown that puts him on the physical level of being able to damage Tony's new suit?

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#32 Edited by RudeBomberBoy01 (4475 posts) - - Show Bio

@avatar_of_gaea:

The dude straight up tanked a large chunk of a moon hitting him at hypersonic speeds, strong enough to apparently lift buildings and was able to stagger Thanos, you know, the same guy who utterly humiliated and overpowered the Hulk.

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#34 Edited by Saint_of_Origin (4706 posts) - - Show Bio

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@rudebomberboy01: it was just a huge meteor,not entire moon

That's still ridiculously impressive. It was a huge chunk. The mass of that thing + reentry speeds is a hell of a lot of force. And Tony practically no-sold it.

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Zod shreds him

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#37 Posted by Saint_of_Origin (4706 posts) - - Show Bio

Has anyone who is commenting on this thread even seen Infinity War? Zod has no striking feats that put him even close to Tony's current durability. Unless someone would like to prove me wrong (still waiting on that)

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#38 Edited by hulkuberstomp (1791 posts) - - Show Bio

@rudebomberboy01:I thougt that it should be cool if Iron man have tanked entire moon in his face and then got oneshoted by Cap

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#39 Posted by titing2101 (1130 posts) - - Show Bio

tony will last for a while, but as thanos did, his armor would eventually get shredded unless his laser could harm zod.

tony needs prep for this really bad

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#40 Posted by Saint_of_Origin (4706 posts) - - Show Bio

@titing2101: As everyone else here, you're assuming that Zod = Thanos in strength. But the fact that Tony basically no-sold that meteor chunk (which based on it's size is most likely in the single digit megaton of TNT range of force), and Thanos overwhelmed his armor, isn't a weak showing for Tony, it's a strong showing for Thanos. Zod has shown nothing even comparable physically to what Tony has durability wise in the film. Zod is not hurting Tony's armor.

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#41 Posted by jayc1324 (26415 posts) - - Show Bio

Tony fighting Thanos straight up means he can do the same with Zod. And given all of his random contraptions, like the device that prevented Thanos from closing his hand, I am sure he will have things like that that can temporarily restrain Zod. But I don't see how he can put Zod down, so ultimately he would probably lose. Eventually his suit will be torn apart, just like Thanos did.

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#42 Posted by omriamar (7068 posts) - - Show Bio

Zod stomps

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#43 Edited by xZone (10214 posts) - - Show Bio

I do think stark could take WW without her sword, but Zod is a little of a reach IMO

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#44 Edited by Saint_of_Origin (4706 posts) - - Show Bio

I will ask again, to everyone. Anyone is free to provide proof here...What has Zod done that puts him at a striking force able to hurt Tony's armor when Tony has no-sold attacks much stronger than anything Zod has dished out?

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#45 Edited by Lunacyde (27979 posts) - - Show Bio

@saint_of_origin: I'll have to rewatch the film, but I think you're overselling the meteor feat. The gravity is different on Titan and we would need to calc the speed of the meteor and it's size. I'll also have to see how he makes contact with it. Just the shockwave from Zod and Superman colliding was enough to destroy the side of a skyscraper and Zod was unphased.

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#46 Edited by deactivated-5ae89c5e2eb4b (7 posts) - - Show Bio

Tony just might win this

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#47 Posted by GXrevs06 (4072 posts) - - Show Bio

Zod stomps. He turns him into scraps. He's stronger, smarter and way faster

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#48 Posted by RBT (26609 posts) - - Show Bio

Zod comfortably.

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#49 Posted by Saint_of_Origin (4706 posts) - - Show Bio

@lunacyde said:

@saint_of_origin: I'll have to rewatch the film, but I think you're overselling the meteor feat. The gravity is different on Titan and we would need to calc the speed of the meteor and it's size. I'll also have to see how he makes contact with it. Just the shockwave from Zod and Superman colliding was enough to destroy the side of a skyscraper and Zod was unphased.

We can assume that it's different in some way because it's not the same planet, but from all things shown, it does not differ from Earth's in any way great enough to make a difference. Characters and objects there did not show any effects of any changed gravity whatsoever. So in this case, the logical thing to do, would be to assume Titans gravity is in no discernible way, greater than or less than Earth's.

Now going off of that assumption, much smaller meteors can have much greater force than Zod has shown. The meteor that airbursted over Russia, yielded 400-600 Kilotons/TNT of force. To put that in perspective, the Little Boy nuclear weapon yielded a measly 15 Kilotons/TNT of force. Now as our meteor was clearly much larger than 20m in diameter (even though it's not spherical, lengthwise it was gigantic) the logical train of thought is as follows:

IW Meteorite >> Russia Meteor Airburst >>>>> Little Boy Nuclear Weapon >> Zod/Supes striking force.

Unless you're telling me Zod and Supes hit with the power of a nuke.

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#50 Edited by Worldofthunder (5055 posts) - - Show Bio

Zod's punches were equal to Clark's bullrushes and one bullrush from Clark was able to one-shot the World Engine which no-sold hitting the ground at mach 24, and Clark did it while weakened and faced with pressure strong enough to displace thousands of tons of water. And the world engine was as large as the mountain next to it, meaning that Zod matching Clark's power with mere punches is BEYOND Iron Man.

IRON MAN IS NOT COMPARABLE. HE GOT UTTERLY HUMILIATED BY THANOS WHOSE GEMLESS FEATS DO NOT COMPARE TO ZOD'S FEATS. There is literally no reason Iron Man doesn't get one-shotted.

This IW hype is starting to become extremely annyoing and it's already toxic as hell. Iron Man is not in Zod's league, this is not a close match and he can't give Zod a tough fight.