People forgot that steppenwolf tanked superman's punches and heat vision? Iron man became way way more impressive after infinity war, no doubt but he can't win this.
People forgot that steppenwolf tanked superman's punches and heat vision? Iron man became way way more impressive after infinity war, no doubt but he can't win this.
So did WW, Cyborg and Aquaman.
Are they as powerful as Hulk and Ragnarok Thor now?
@erkan12: Superman like everyone else can hold back, unless you think that even batman can tank his slaps, not to mention that i don't remember superman actually punching ww or cyborg, he headbuttued her that's for sure.
@erkan12: yes and during the battle ww tried to calm him using the lasso to make him remember his past, cyborg deflected the heat vision with the shield and ww was on the ground after the headbutt, if he wanted to kill them they would have died unless you really think that batman is superman level and can tank his hits.
@erkan12: yes and during the battle ww tried to calm him using the lasso to make him remember his past, cyborg deflected the heat vision with the shield and ww was on the ground after the headbutt, if he wanted to kill them they would have died unless you really think that batman is superman level and can tank his hits.
He remembered Batman. He didn't know or remember the others.
I did say Iron Man wins but what can Iron Man even do to Steppenwolf? Lol.
At this point I say Steppenwolf. Iron Man's offense is weak against Steppenwolf. Steppenwolf's more than capable of piercing his suit.
You changed your mind because it comes down to Superman, don't try to fool us. :)
The attack that he used on Thanos simply destroys Steppenwolf. Not even Hulk or Ragnarok Thor managed to bleed Thanos, and Iron Man did that. He has the superior fire power.
Iron Man took a blast from Thanos's IG, which is better than anything Steppen can do. Thanos threw a Moon over him, and it was still not enough.
I did say Iron Man wins but what can Iron Man even do to Steppenwolf? Lol.
At this point I say Steppenwolf. Iron Man's offense is weak against Steppenwolf. Steppenwolf's more than capable of piercing his suit.
You changed your mind because it comes down to Superman, don't try to fool us. :)
The attack that he used on Thanos simply destroys Steppenwolf. Not even Hulk or Ragnarok Thor managed to bleed Thanos, and Iron Man did that. He has the superior fire power.
Iron Man took a blast from Thanos's IG, which is better than anything Steppen can do. Thanos threw a Moon over him, and it was still not enough.
You mean Thor, as in the Thor that almost cuts Thanos in half with his Stormbreaker?
2. Barely standing recently power gemmed post Ragnorak Thor who could barely even hold the random metal bar he was holding after completing the strike.
@greysentinel365: He was in that shape because Thanos beat the piss out of him.
SW has no feats to show he can handle IW Bleeding Edge Iron Man. He didn't tank shit from Superman, he got beat into a pulp and fed to fodder. Supes best strength feats are honestly not that impressive so far. His speed feats are good, his reactions are good, his heat vision is good, but his actual striking feats are significantly lacking. IW Tony manages to do more to Thanos than Hulk who has MUCH higher strength feats than supes.
@erkan12: You're right man. I forgot the MCU character had the Erkan-force in this thread. Iron Man one-shot flicks Steppenwolf. Steppenwolf can only bench like 225 in comparison to Iron Man who can bench like a gazillion tons with the Erkan-force.
How stupid of me to say Steppenwolf wins because he has better feats. You've opened my eyes with your worldclass arguments ?
He was in that shape because Thanos beat the piss out of him.
Offscreen.
He didn't tank shit from Superman,
Neither could Tony.
Supes best strength feats are honestly not that impressive so far.
Him lifting an entire building and punting Nam-ek across a town is miles above anything Tony has done even with the Hulkbuster. And No Iron Man did not lift a building nor drop one in Infinity War. The ship(?) was already floating up there due to Titans weird gravity. All Iron Man did was give it a small push into the lower area where gravity was still relatively normal and let it drop. It's no better than his turbine feat.
but his actual striking feats are significantly lacking.
If Tony has anything better please feel free to post it. Don't bother posting him grounding himself to hit Thanos. Apart from the obvious all in nature of that attack it didn't do any damage and left him completely vulnerable afterwards.
IW Tony manages to do more to Thanos than Hulk who has MUCH higher strength feats than supes.
Pre-Stormbreaker Thor, he failed to do anything to Thanos unlike Iron Man.
Come on, we didn't get to see how that fight played. Thor was terribly outmatched by all of Thanos' army, some of which where able to go through Ironman, without Thanos' help.
On Titan, Ironman was fighting with help against a lonesome Thanos, so making a comparison out of those two encounters is very imprecise, to say the least.
I came out of the theatre with the impression that Thor was one of the most formidable member of the whole IW Avengers Team, even though Ironman did get a very significant bust.
Looking at all general feats, I say it's possible to put Thor above Ironman.
@xzone: Steppenwolf can block that. He's much, much, much faster than Tony. If anything how does Tony tank tank getting hit by his axe, or even contend with his strenght.
People just hate on Steppenwolf just to hate all the while ignoring his feats which in reality are way above Tony's paygrade.
@xzone: Steppenwolf can block that. He's much, much, much faster than Tony. If anything how does Tony tank tank getting hit by his axe, or even contend with his strenght.
People just hate on Steppenwolf just to hate all the while ignoring his feats which in reality are way above Tony's paygrade.
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In the first video, he straight up dodged a projectile form a tank. He is fast enough to dodge Steppenwolf's attacks.
In the second video, his axe has been used only for knocking people out and has not used the heat for offense other than breaking Cyborg's legs and attacking Diana which was blocked by her bracelets. In order to break his leg, he had to hold him for a while. Tony won't provide him a single instance to do so as he has got bigger blasters capable of even letting go from Thanos's hold.
Even Aquaman could tank a hit from Steppenwolf's axe. (We won't even know about his true durability until his movie. But until then, he is the weakest member after Batman).
@tricksandtoys: Steppenwolf is fast enough to take down WW and Aquaman at the same time. WW is a bullet timer. He even ripped Cyborg apart. Not sure the durability of nanotechsuit vs apokolypse tech. As long as IW tony can't show superman level feats, Steppenwolf wins.
Lmfao at Steppenwolf one shotting. He can hit Tony's suit all day and it still will never equal the kinetic force that Iron Man withstood from that asteroid. Also, it's hilarious that Aquaman, Wonder Woman, and Cyborg can tank hits from Superman too because he was "holding back" (despite not knowing who any of them were), but conveniently he wasn't holding back against Steppenwolf. We'll pretend that makes sense ?
@tricksandtoys: Steppenwolf is fast enough to take down WW and Aquaman at the same time. WW is a bullet timer. He even ripped Cyborg apart. Not sure the durability of nanotechsuit vs apokolypse tech. As long as IW tony can't show superman level feats, Steppenwolf wins.
WW is a bullet timer. Agreed. What speed feats does Aquaman have?
He ripped apart Cyborg's armour because Cyborg wasn't even trying to defend himself. He was too busy doing his job with the motherboxes.
You don't have to be Superman level to beat Steppenwolf. If WW wasn't nerfed here compared to the other movies, she could have destroy him.
@tricksandtoys: "Even aquaman could tank a hit from Steppenwolf's axe"
Literally dceu aquaman's only piercing resistance feat, so im not sure what's you're trying to say there.
Also that's Tony's only speed feat pretty much. Other than that he said been shown to be consistently street in reactions.
That is Aquaman's only feat. Without knowing how durable he really is until (which we would know when his movie comes out) he is by default considered weaker. Once, we get the feats we can argue.
He has dodged Thor's attack in the first Avengers, has dodged a few entry level chunks of Titan's moon.What I'm saying is. Tony is more than capable to keep up with Steppenwolf.
@tricksandtoys: What? That makes no sense lmao. I feel it's husband only feat you don't just assume he's weaker than that, what kind of backwards logic is that?
So by your own logic, if a new character is introduce different in the mcu and fight suit evenly with hulk, you would then assume that he's weaker than hulk? How doesn't that make any sense?
Not sure how fast those attacks are, but my point was that Tony's is hardly portrayed as a speedster when it comes to reactions (at least, not consistently)
@tricksandtoys: Steppenwolf is fast enough to take down WW and Aquaman at the same time. WW is a bullet timer. He even ripped Cyborg apart. Not sure the durability of nanotechsuit vs apokolypse tech. As long as IW tony can't show superman level feats, Steppenwolf wins.
WW is a bullet timer. Agreed. What speed feats does Aquaman have?
He ripped apart Cyborg's armour because Cyborg wasn't even trying to defend himself. He was too busy doing his job with the motherboxes.
You don't have to be Superman level to beat Steppenwolf. If WW wasn't nerfed here compared to the other movies, she could have destroy him.
Aquaman is not that fast but he's pretty strong, What i mean is Steppenwolf is able to fight against them easily.
As for Cyborg, i know he's distracted, but i'm focusing on the strength to the metal itself.
@tricksandtoys: Steppenwolf is fast enough to take down WW and Aquaman at the same time. WW is a bullet timer. He even ripped Cyborg apart. Not sure the durability of nanotechsuit vs apokolypse tech. As long as IW tony can't show superman level feats, Steppenwolf wins.
WW is a bullet timer. Agreed. What speed feats does Aquaman have?
He ripped apart Cyborg's armour because Cyborg wasn't even trying to defend himself. He was too busy doing his job with the motherboxes.
You don't have to be Superman level to beat Steppenwolf. If WW wasn't nerfed here compared to the other movies, she could have destroy him.
Aquaman is not that fast but he's pretty strong, What i mean is Steppenwolf is able to fight against them easily.
As for Cyborg, i know he's distracted, but i'm focusing on the strength to the metal itself.
God mode WW can basically beat anything.
Aquaman has no feats to suggest he is on the level of WW or even Cyborg. Once we get the movie out, we may decide how strong he is.
The metal itself isn't very powerful. It just has regenerative capabilities. Probably on Stark's Civil War armour level for now.
Stepphenwolf was stomping Wonder Woman and Aquaman at the same time. It took millions to even make him retreat in his first encounter. and he was tanking punches from superman
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