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  • Nano tech Iron Man, IW Rhodey, Iron Spider-Suit, Rescue armour, Thor with phase 1 and 2 feats and Mjolnir
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Tony solos, Rescue solos.

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Without phase 3 feats, Thor takes it 7/10.

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#5  Edited By TheSpartanB345T

Everyone knows Bleeding Edge Iron man beats Thor.

Edit: ohhh this MCU not 616? Smh nevermind

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Thor's not winning this.

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Tony solos this version of Thor.

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Thor was pathetic before Ragnarok. Iron Man stomps him.

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@mattyboi: nope. Thor still destroys

How exactly? Ragnorak Thor is much stronger than his Phase 2 self and still was stomped by Base Thanos. Tony went toe to toe with 4 Stoned Thanos and drew blood from him and was even complimented.

What feats does Pre Ragnorak Thor have that compare to IW Tony's? Not to mention he can legit absorb Thor's lightning to amp his won attacks considerably. And Has Rescue who scales to him and power and has Rhodes and Spidey.

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@mattyboi: nope. Thor still destroys

How exactly? Ragnorak Thor is much stronger than his Phase 2 self and still was stomped by Base Thanos. Tony went toe to toe with 4 Stoned Thanos and drew blood from him and was even complimented.

What feats does Pre Ragnorak Thor have that compare to IW Tony's? Not to mention he can legit absorb Thor's lightning to amp his won attacks considerably. And Has Rescue who scales to him and power and has Rhodes and Spidey.

mijolnr makes a lot of difference and they have different advantages so comparison with thanos isn't fair. Thor was weary from his hela fight and was caught off guard. tony had a lot of time to prepare

his striking shall obliterate them. he's got pretty impressive durability and speed. spidey and pepper are fodder and rhodes is a joke to thor

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@mattyboi: nope. Thor still destroys

How? Tony was keeping up with Thanos and made him bleed, the suit tanked his headbutt(which in endgame KO'd Thor) and a meteor coming down at re-entry speeds. Thor isn't putting Tony down before Tony can put him down. He's more than capable of doing so since Tony made Thanos bleed which is something Hulk couldn't do. Not to mention if Thor uses lightning attacks he's just gonna amp Tony. Plus Tony's healing factor, it's just too much for Thor.

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@mattyboi said:
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@mattyboi: nope. Thor still destroys

How? Tony was keeping up with Thanos and made him bleed, the suit tanked his headbutt(which in endgame KO'd Thor) and a meteor coming down at re-entry speeds. Thor isn't putting Tony down before Tony can put him down. He's more than capable of doing so since Tony made Thanos bleed which is something Hulk couldn't do. Not to mention if Thor uses lightning attacks he's just gonna amp Tony. Plus Tony's healing factor, it's just too much for Thor.

I'd expected thanos to pop out here lol. Endgame thor was beaten and battered and thanos was bloodlusted. IW one wasn't. Thor tanked the bifrost and iirc thano used space stone to teleport it

thor's striking power with mijolnr exceeds anyone tony's fought, even non bloodlusted thanos. he can easily break apart the suit. his durability is more than enough to tank anything tony throws and thor is faster and more skilled

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mijolnr makes a lot of difference and they have different advantages so comparison with thanos isn't fair. Thor was weary from his hela fight and was caught off guard. tony had a lot of time to prepare

his striking shall obliterate them. he's got pretty impressive durability and speed. spidey and pepper are fodder and rhodes is a joke to thor

No it doesn't. Mjonir never drew blood from Thanos. Tony's physical strikes did. And there were no difefernt advanatges. If anything Tony was at a disadvantage because Thanos was fighting to kill and had four stones at his disposal. Thor wasn't weary from his hela fight. His body was in perfect condition aside from his eye and he saw Thano's ship above ther's before the attack. That dosen't count as off guard.

His striking isn't obliterating anyone. Tony and Rescue can tank those hits as she has a nanotech suit as well and performs just as well in Endgame and Tony did side by side. His durability isn't doing against multiple assaults from people much stronger than he is.

Stop the wank.

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I'd expected thanos to pop out here lol. Endgame thor was beaten and battered and thanos was bloodlusted. IW one wasn't. Thor tanked the bifrost and iirc thano used space stone to teleport it

EG Thor had recovered slightly from his beating and was fighting just fine when Thanos KO'd him.

thor's striking power with mijolnr exceeds anyone tony's fought, even non bloodlusted thanos. he can easily break apart the suit. his durability is more than enough to tank anything tony throws and thor is faster and more skilled

Thanos is stronger than Mjolnir, he put down Hulk in a few blows when Hulk tanked hits from Mjolnir just fine. I don't see how he's "easily breaking apart the suit" when a meteor and Thanos' headbutt couldn't. While I do think he can break apart the suit he's not doing it easily, maybe 2-3 hits to do so. Thor isn't just "tanking" the drop of blood combo, he's gonna be injured and Tony can just hit him with it again. Tony's base striking is actually stronger than the Hulkbuster, which is equal to Hulk in striking. His punch had more effect on Cull Obsidian than the Hulkbuster's punch did. So even without the extra nanotech amps used in the drop of blood combo he can still hurt Thor.

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@darkthunder said:

mijolnr makes a lot of difference and they have different advantages so comparison with thanos isn't fair. Thor was weary from his hela fight and was caught off guard. tony had a lot of time to prepare

his striking shall obliterate them. he's got pretty impressive durability and speed. spidey and pepper are fodder and rhodes is a joke to thor

No it doesn't. Mjonir never drew blood from Thanos. Tony's physical strikes did. And there were no difefernt advanatges. If anything Tony was at a disadvantage because Thanos was fighting to kill and had four stones at his disposal. Thor wasn't weary from his hela fight. His body was in perfect condition aside from his eye and he saw Thano's ship above ther's before the attack. That dosen't count as off guard.

it was confirmed that tony alone didn't draw blood from thanos. Thanos wasn't fighting to kill in IW. prove thor wasn't exhausted. He saw the ship, he had no idea who or how powerful thanos was. tony was given a warning and timw to prepare both of which thor didn't have

His striking isn't obliterating anyone. Tony and Rescue can tank those hits as she has a nanotech suit

feATs? they aren't tanking this

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as well and performs just as well in Endgame and Tony did side by side. His durability isn't doing against multiple assaults from people much stronger than he is.

Stop the wank.

they don't have damage output above bifrost

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thor stomps.

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@mattyboi said:

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I'd expected thanos to pop out here lol. Endgame thor was beaten and battered and thanos was bloodlusted. IW one wasn't. Thor tanked the bifrost and iirc thano used space stone to teleport it

EG Thor had recovered slightly from his beating and was fighting just fine when Thanos KO'd him.

prove it

thor's striking power with mijolnr exceeds anyone tony's fought, even non bloodlusted thanos. he can easily break apart the suit. his durability is more than enough to tank anything tony throws and thor is faster and more skilled

Thanos is stronger than Mjolnir

, he put down Hulk in a few blows when Hulk tanked hits from Mjolnir just fine.

I don't see how he's "easily breaking apart the suit"

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when a meteor and Thanos' headbutt couldn't. While I do think he can break apart the suit he's not doing it easily, maybe 2-3 hits to do so. Thor isn't just "tanking" the drop of blood combo, he's gonna be injured and Tony can just hit him with it again

bifrost diagrees

. Tony's base striking is actually stronger than the Hulkbuster, which is equal to Hulk in striking.

nope

His punch had more effect on Cull Obsidian than the Hulkbuster's punch did. So even without the extra nanotech amps used in the drop of blood combo he can still hurt Thor.

no he can't

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@darkthunder:

prove it

Prove that he was fighting just fine?

Fights outrider army just fine https://youtu.be/fP2w_UAK6B4?t=187 then even goes on to fight Thanos again and does BETTER than he did before.

bifrost diagrees

Not sure how, but okay.

nope

Sorry but "no" and "nope" isn't debunking my arguments, you gotta actually prove it.

no he can't

I suppose Hulk can't hurt Thor then? Oh wait...

I guess Thor is just gonna be no selling hits from Tony who is stronger than Hulk, and could hurt Thanos. Lol.

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#25  Edited By RajjarsAlt

@mattyboi:

Err, pretty sure IW and EG gave the notion that Tony for all his power couldn't put down Cull Obsidian.

OT: Thor has the feats to one-shot tbh. Iron Spider isn't exactly good. Thor could take out Rhodey with a single punch. Rescue is weird but she shouldn't be above the Mk 50

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@rajjarsalt: Cull was only "beating" Tony due to his gear, but never did any damage to him, just ragdolled him with it.

Thor has the feats to one-shot tbh.

So Thor has the feats to do what Thanos couldn't do?

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#27  Edited By RajjarsAlt

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@rajjarsalt: Cull was only "beating" Tony due to his gear, but never did any damage to him, just ragdolled him with it.

Thor has the feats to one-shot tbh.

So Thor has the feats to do what Thanos couldn't do?

Yeah but Tony didn't do any damage to Cull is my point. In IW Tony throws a left uppercut and Cull shakes it off in a second, and his blasts don't damage him either. In EG he shoots Cull a couple of times and has to be saved by Spidey and Giant Man's foot before Cull impales him. Tony never showed the capability of putting Cull down.

Err, Thor's weapons/lightning are that good, considering they actually did one-shot Tony in Endgame. Thanos definitely has the feats to one-shot Tony if he is seriously using all his power. Dude ripped his whole helmet off with a single grab.

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@rajjarsalt:

Yeah but Tony didn't do any damage to Cull is my point.

Tony's punch stunned him for a few seconds. His blasts just werent doing anything.

Tony never showed the capability of putting Cull down.

If he used the same attacks he used against Thanos I'd argue he could put Cull down.

Err, Thor's weapons/lightning are that good, considering they actually did one-shot Tony in Endgame. Thanos definitely has the feats to one-shot Tony if he is serious. Dude ripped his whole helmet off with a single grab.

IW Tony> EG Tony, but thats irrelevant since Thor needed stormbreaker to even do that. Lightning wont do anything other than amp Tony. Thanos couldn't one shot Tony, even when he was serious. He may have "feats to", but he just couldnt.

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#29  Edited By RajjarsAlt

@mattyboi said:

@rajjarsalt:

Yeah but Tony didn't do any damage to Cull is my point.

If he used the same attacks he used against Thanos I'd argue he could put Cull down.

Best he managed to do to Thanos was a slight cut but even that wasn't all him, it was an accumulation of all that Thanos had taken during the fight.

IW Tony> EG Tony,

35 iterations past and the Mk 50 is still better?

Prime Thanos is EG Thanos > IW Thanos in terms of strength and agility.

but thats irrelevant since Thor needed stormbreaker to even do that.

Thor has other ways of repping that damage. Cue Mjolnir flight and recall.

Lightning wont do anything other than amp Tony.

Burned his suit pretty good.

Thanos couldn't one shot Tony, even when he was serious. He may have "feats to", but he just couldnt.

For plot, sure, but he ripped off his helmet like if it was nothing. He's certainly powerful enough to do so.

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@rajjarsalt:

Best he managed to do to Thanos was a slight cut but even that wasn't all him, it was an accumulation of all that Thanos had taken during the fight.

No one hit him where he got cut though.

Prime Thanos is EG Thanos > IW Thanos in terms of strength and agility.

The agility thing is based off visuals and the strength thing is headcanon.

Thor has other ways of repping that damage. Cue Mjolnir flight and recall.

No, pre EG Thor isn't repping that damage.

Burned his suit pretty good.

Yeah, a much weaker suit, that got amped.

For plot, sure, but he ripped off his helmet like if it was nothing. He's certainly powerful enough to do so.

Him ripping the helmet off doesnt mean he can one shot Tony, if he could've then he would've.

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#31  Edited By SuperIzu85

@rajjarsalt: Tony basically twoshotted Cull with the assistance of Maw. Cull's best attacks were getting shrugged off by Tony on the other hand.

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@rajjarsalt: Tony basically twoshotted Cull with the assistance of Maw. Cull's best attacks were getting shrugged off by Tony on the other hand.

two-shotted but he came nowhere close to putting him down for the count.

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@superizu85 said:

@rajjarsalt: Tony basically twoshotted Cull with the assistance of Maw. Cull's best attacks were getting shrugged off by Tony on the other hand.

two-shotted but he came nowhere close to putting him down for the count.

lol you wouldn't see it from just YouTube clips but Cull was out of the fight for at least nearly 30 seconds after Tony blasted him. The fact that one punch from Tony has him dazed and reeling back for 4 seconds while Cull's best hits were shrugged off should've already said something tbh.

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Thor. Mjolnir can one-shot any suit if he's not weakened by dark magic.

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Mjolnir was able to K.O Tony once...why not again?

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@mattyboi said:

@darkthunder:

prove it

Prove that he was fighting just fine?

Fights outrider army just fine https://youtu.be/fP2w_UAK6B4?t=187 then even goes on to fight Thanos again and does BETTER than he did before.

ok

bifrost diagrees

Not sure how, but okay.

thats millions of gallons of water being displaced

nope

Sorry but "no" and "nope" isn't debunking my arguments, you gotta actually prove it.

nothing more I can do to statements. hulk has surtur feat, leviathan feAT. what does tony have?

no he can't

I suppose Hulk can't hurt Thor then? Oh wait...

I guess Thor is just gonna be no selling hits from Tony who is stronger than Hulk, and could hurt Thanos. Lol.

thor no sold town level explosion. tony is nowhere close

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Mark VI Iron Man could put a fight against Thor. It was impossible to win for Tony, but he did great.

His next armor, Mark VII, got the best upgrade until then. Then he made 35 armors and he finally built his two definitive armors(the ones in AoU), heavily improved.

And next he got his bigger upgrade ever. The gap between nanotech armors and the ones in AoU is huge and I'm sure that he has progressed enough to beat the dude he could fight fairly against with just one of his first armors.

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thats millions of gallons of water being displaced

Ok. Tony scales to this though.

nothing more I can do to statements. hulk has surtur feat, leviathan feAT. what does tony have?

Lets see... hurting Thanos(which Hulk couldn't do), hurting Cull(which Hulkbuster thats equal to Hulk couldn't do) and tanked a headbutt from Thanos, which KO'd Thor.

thor no sold town level explosion. tony is nowhere close

Thanos put Thor down in a few punches, and one shotted him with a headbutt, same headbutt that Tony tanked pretty well. As for AP like I said, Tony hurt Thanos which Hulk couldn't do, same Hulk that was beating down on Thor.

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Tough but I think mjlonir will give Thor the win here

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@mattyboi said:

@darkthunder:

thats millions of gallons of water being displaced

Ok. Tony scales to this though.

how?

nothing more I can do to statements. hulk has surtur feat, leviathan feAT. what does tony have?

Lets see... hurting Thanos(which Hulk couldn't do),

he had armor on and hulk overpowered him for a moment

hurting Cull(which Hulkbuster thats equal to Hulk couldn't do) and tanked a headbutt from Thanos, which KO'd Thor.

bloodlusted headbutt and noob HB

thor no sold town level explosion. tony is nowhere close

Thanos put Thor down in a few punches, and one shotted him with a headbutt, same headbutt that Tony tanked pretty well. As for AP like I said, Tony hurt Thanos which Hulk couldn't do, same Hulk that was beating down on Thor.

I debunked this above

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how?

Via taking hits from Thanos who stomped Thor.

he had armor on and hulk overpowered him for a moment

Featless armor and Hulk never overpowered him, only took him by surprise. Irrelevant tho since Hulk never did any damage yet Tony did.

bloodlusted headbutt and noob HB

He was trying to kill Tony too so I don't see your point.

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@mattyboi:

hurting Thanos(which Hulk couldn't do),

The Russo's explicitly stated that the tiny scratch Tony inflicted on Thanos was the sum total of ALL the damage Thanos had suffered up until that point, including all the damage from everyone else.

In other words: Tony didn't do it on his own.

hurting Cull(which Hulkbuster thats equal to Hulk couldn't do)

That has far more to do with Bruce being a bad fighter than anything else. Not only did he struggle to land hits on Cull, but he was also distracted by his inner conflict with Hulk.

Oh, and do you need me to remind you of the fact that Tony straight-up lost to Cull no less than 3 times, and each time needed saving (once by Wong, and twice by Peter)?

and tanked a headbutt from Thanos, which KO'd Thor.

Right, so Tony is more durable than Thor now? The same Thor who has tanked beatings from Hulk and Kurse?

Thanos put Thor down in a few punches, and one shotted him with a headbutt,

And Thor OHKO'd Tony by mistake in EG.

same headbutt that Tony tanked pretty well.

According to WOG, Thanos was holding back in IW, and going out of his way to avoid killing the Avengers. Thor has always been portrayed as being far more powerful and durable than Tony. Just deal with it.

same Hulk that was beating down on Thor.

The same Hulk who was getting his butt handed to him as soon as Thor started using his lightning?

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The Russo's explicitly stated that the tiny scratch Tony inflicted on Thanos was the sum total of ALL the damage Thanos had suffered up until that point, including all the damage from everyone else.

Except no one else hit Thanos at that spot so thats impossible.

That has far more to do with Bruce being a bad fighter than anything else. Not only did he struggle to land hits on Cull, but he was also distracted by his inner conflict with Hulk

And this makes the Hulkbuster physically weaker how?

Oh, and do you need me to remind you of the fact that Tony straight-up lost to Cull no less than 3 times, and each time needed saving (once by Wong, and twice by Peter)?

Cull was doing no damage to Tony. He needed his gear to ragdoll Tony aswell.

Right, so Tony is more durable than Thor now? The same Thor who has tanked beatings from Hulk and Kurse?

I suppose, I mean I'm not the one who wrote in that Tony was to tank a headbutt from Thanos, I'm just telling you what happened.

And Thor OHKO'd Tony by mistake in EG.

EG. Not IW.

According to WOG, Thanos was holding back in IW, and going out of his way to avoid killing the Avengers. Thor has always been portrayed as being far more powerful and durable than Tony. Just deal with it

Against Tony no. Thanos was trying to kill Tony. Thor's only been portrayed more durable than pre IW Tony, not post IW. This common argument makes no sense. IW Tony is a completely different suit than the rest, and anti feats for these suits cannot be used for IW Tony.

The same Hulk who was getting his butt handed to him as soon as Thor started using his lightning?

Thats the point.. Thor needed lightning to do anything to Hulk, lightning will only amp Tony here.

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@mattyboi said:

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how?

Via taking hits from Thanos who stomped Thor.

he was stomped by thanos too

he had armor on and hulk overpowered him for a moment

Featless armor and Hulk never overpowered him, only took him by surprise. Irrelevant tho since Hulk never did any damage yet Tony did.

yup, featless armor that no sold SB. the "drop of blood" was the result of the whole team and an outlier

bloodlusted headbutt and noob HB

He was trying to kill Tony too so I don't see your point.

he wasn't bloodluted in Infinity war

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@mattyboi: also "drop of blood" was tony's strongest combo. he isn't landing his strongest attacks on thor relentesslly. at least not ic

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@darkthunder: I think I'm with @mattyboi on this one. Tony's new advanced armors will eventually overcome this weakened/nerfed Thor.

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Thor one shots 3 times