MCU Iron Fist vs. MCU Winter Soldier

H2H/Melee only

Who wins

VS

Danny.

Rand

Danny stomps...

10x as skilled and hits as hard or harder

Danny will land the first hit but Winter Soldier is less likely to be one shot than vice-versa.

Bucky wrecks.

Danny should probably take this, I just can't see Bucky landing a single hit. If he did with his metal arm I think he'd knock Danny out, but Danny is just crazy fast. Now of course Danny could one shot him if he was using his Iron Fist punch right out the get-go but that would be super out of character. What probably would happen is he'd dodge around Bucky's blows and eventually take him down.

Danny

Bucky in a good fight.

No chi? Bucky 6/10, his physicals are just too great.

Chi? Danny 8/10...maybe more.

Bucky 10/10 with very little effort. What is with this Danny wank.

Winter Soldier.

@bflynn316: Dance around blows from a superhuman who is faster than anyone he's ever faced? Lol no. He gets knocked out or killed within 20 seconds. His regular attacks will do no damage and his IF is pathetic and telegraphed.

Danny doesn't really have experience with superhuman foes. Not sure he'd realize he needs to use the Fist quickly enough.

@mtuske:

If he lands a hit with IF, Bucky is done.

@bladeoffury: He hit the floor? Why would that hurt WS who's taken punches from a blood lusted IM, blood lusted BP and Cap.

@mtuske:

Because after he hit the floor, all the objects, people, and furniture went up into their air. But, if you need convincing that the IF will take out Bucky:

That door is steel. Sorry, that door was steel. Steel is bullet-proof. Bucky is not.

@bladeoffury: He hit the floor with such force that the 50 year old man (Harold) got up before Danny did and got to the roof where Danny had yet another poor fight scene struggling with an old man. As for the door there is no way a move that telegraphed will hit someone with any skill let alone the reflexes of WS. He's a one trick pony facing a guy who can one shot him with every attack.

Winter Soldier. A lot stonger and more durable. A bit more skilled as well.

@mtuske:

So you do admit that Danny would one-shot Bucky if he managed to tag him?

@bladeoffury: No. For one he's never hit anyone with that move. Secondly the guy he did hit with the IF wasn't even knocked out just in pain. Thirdly if that dopey moved somehow hit WS (It never would) he would at least be able to roll with the hit and not take the brunt of it. Fourthly the only way that Danny could ever hit WS that squarely with such a slow telegraphed move would be if WS was so tired and hurt from the fight he couldn't defend himself. Now add in the fact that Danny's regular attacks wont even hurt WS that last scenario is impossible.

The one shot with every attack was referring to WS not one hit wonder Danny btw.

@mtuske:

No. For one he's never hit anyone with that move.

You beg to differ:

Secondly the guy he did hit with the IF wasn't even knocked out just in pain.

He was lying on the floor, motionless and defenseless. Seemed like a win to me. Plus, Danny did not hit him with the full force of the fist, since he had morals.

Thirdly if that dopey move somehow hit WS (It never would) he would at least be able to roll with the hit and not take the brunt of it.

You mean roll like this?

Fourthly the only way that Danny could ever hit WS that squarely with such a slow telegraphed move would be if WS was so tired and hurt from the fight he couldn't defend himself.

Was WS tired and hurt from the fight here?

Or here?

Now add in the fact that Danny's regular attacks wont even hurt WS that last scenario is impossible.

But Danny's IF will destroy Bucky. Even Natasha's punch hurt Bucky.

@bladeoffury: No the guy he hit with an IF fist was just a straight punch. The IF he used in the door was a leaping wind up to holy hell and let loose. Not the same. Nice try. He was hurt by none of those hits from any of them. Danny's regular attacks will have no effect just like those didn't either. Danny struggled with a 50 year old man on a roof. He's out of his league. Those were all regular attacks not slow jumping attacks. Not comparable in the least.

Winter Soldier.

I'll give it to Winter Soldier. Although not as skilled as Danny, Bucky is at least as good or better at H2H than some of the people who have Danny trouble, and outclasses Danny physically. Danny has not beat anyone as durable as WS.

Bucky would outlast him. Better stamina. And he can't lose his stats by running out of chi.

@bladeoffury: Also just one of those punches from IM would have killed Danny and WS was giving and getting but was outclassed by a stronger foe who's blood lusted and focused. WS didn't want that fight at all. But that's hardly a low showing that's a great durability showing so ill save that thanks.

danny

Without chi Bucky stomps

With chi Danny 8/10

Danny shattered concrete floor.He oneshots with chi

without it he gets stomped

Bucky and Captain America can survive against Iron-man (bloodbusted) but they are hurted by Tony Stark and Black Widow.

MCU movies make me sick.

Buck one shots.

@peterrubiohard: Black Widow never 'hurted' Bucky. In fact, the only time she got a reaction out of him was when she hit him in the groin and he was hardly stunned at that. Later on, she was wailing on him with elbow shots to his head and he was utterly unfazed by it.

Tony too barely stunned him when he elbowed his face, before being punched across the room.

And when did Nat and Tony fight Steve anyways?

Realistically?

If Bucky is durable to withstand against Iron-man's punches, he would be immobile in the fight with Black Widow and Tony .

If Bucky is weak enough to be moved and disturbed by Black Widow's punches ... well then, in that case, an Iron-man punch would rip or crush your head.

@peterrubiohard: I havent watched Civil war in a while but I am pretty sure Tony never hit Bucky with a full force punch. Hell, the only reason why he was getting beaten down was because he was getting doubled teamed and wailed in in an enclosed space.

When he did hit Barnes with a serious blast, he took his arm clean off

The only time Bucky would have to be concerned about a Chi punch is a full power one like he used on the Rand building floor. Couple reasons why I dont see that happening.

1. OP didnt say if it was morals on or off, so by default both are in character. Danny has never used a punch with that much force against a human and he has no prior knowledge that WS is super human.

2. In character I also dont believe Danny would go straight for a chi punch. He usually fights with out it and then pulls it out as a fall back.

3. Even if he did go straight for a Chi punch, it would not be a full powered one for reasons stated above which WS can take no problem thanks to his super human durability.

4. When he does end up powering it up a significant amount for striking purposes, they are very telegraphed. He really winds up and has even ran, charged, and jumped to get the power he needs. I don't see something like that landing on WS. WS would avoid and counter.

Basically, IMO, I don't see IF winning against a SS level character unless the battle rules are heavily swayed in Danny's favor + the SS level character is handicapped some.

eh, under those circumstances (Tony just watched Bucky murder his mother and father), I'm pretty sure Stark wasn't holding back his strikes. I didnt see anything to say otherwise.

@tayssti: I know. I didnt say he didnt land a full force punch because he was holding back. But because he never got a chance to do so

@brucerogers: Gotcha. Misinterpreted what you meant haha its 3:22 am in Cali right now a bit tired my bad.

@tayssti: Lol, its cool mate. It happens :p

Be serious people. How does this overrated Iron Fist wannabe beat Bucky?

Iron Fist only with chi.

@brucerogers: In that GIF those are full force punches and Tony was blood lusted.

@peterrubiohard: Realistically Colleen couldnt even beat that big guy in the cage. WS being moved does not mean he was harmed and taking punches from a superhuman doesn't mean you're a statue when hit by lesser being like IF or BW. It just doesn't hurt

@mtuske: Bucky clearly looks like he his rolling with them or dodging them. My point is that you cant compare that to the punches thrown by Nat or Tony

@brucerogers: It just look like his head is being moved by the punches hitting his face. His guard isn't even up to defend himself or roll with them. He also took many more punches, kicks, knees and everything else IM threw at him. Just for conversation sake we'll say he rolled with them. About 5 seconds after that hand picked GIF WS regained his footing and was about to kill IM who had to use that laser thing on his chest blowing off WS arm to survive. Danny cannot harm him without Chi and whether he can land that one blow which may or may not ko him is unlikely.

Bucky one shots. And lol at Danny ever landing the telegraphed glow fist.