- In Character
- Takes place where Matt last fought Nobu
- 10 paces away initially
- Default incapacitation rules
- Anything goes
- In Character
- Takes place where Matt last fought Nobu
- 10 paces away initially
- Default incapacitation rules
- Anything goes
@uugieboogie: Nah. Didn't find one at least.
@thehunter: http://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/iron-fist-danny-rand-vs-luke-cage-1865154/
Edit: You're right, this one was morals off
Luke even in character could one shot (Ko) Danny, if he tags him.
If Danny realizes fast enough that he has to use his chi ... he wins.
- In Character
- Takes place where Matt last fought Nobu
- 10 paces away initially
- Default incapacitation rules
- Anything goes
Danny never leads off with the Iron Fist, takes too long to charge it and has been hurt by far weaker people than Cage. Cage's best bet is having Danny break his hand on him, as I don't think Cage will be able to tag Danny reliably without Danny hurting himself first. Danny's best feat is punching down the door of the mental hospital. The missile that cage took is arguably more powerful as it would have done more damage to the door. Danny drains too quickly using the Iron Fist. As much as I hate to say it, with Danny's current feats and usage of the Iron Fist, I say Danny will get himself knocked out before Knocking out Cage.
Iron Fist. Luke Cage would get in a few good hits, but once Danny is angry and beaten enough for his chi to charge up, he ends the fight with one punch. If a shotgun can put Luke Cage in the hospital, than a punch with enough kinetic energy to shatter a wall or open the back of a semi-truck would probably kill him.
idk danny never got his act together enough to rely on the fist imo. if he doesnt start with it luke can simply put him through a wall, he has no real durability feats nor is superhuman without the fist.
if he has an irregular use of the fist he has a chance, can probably put luke out with it easily the way he blows up walls.
We have no idea how Danny would react to a superhuman. Logically he should lose his first fight with one inevitably just by getting thrown off.
Yeah a guy who killed a dragon to gain the ability to throw super power punches and has an enemy that is an old woman with TK pushing would get thrown off big time.
Tough to say. Luke's actually proven that he's pretty skilled now imo, but he really couldn't touch Danny once they got going. Plus IF is not hotheaded anymore which is a factor. And he has shown great mastery of the Iron fist ... but in character Danny is reluctant to use the Iron Fist on people, which will be even more pronounced against Luke. It's probably gonna take several all out Iron Fists to the face to flat out drop Luke at this point and it's unlikely he's gonna do that to him in character.
It could be written to go either way, with Luke eventually getting a good grip of him after a prolonged fight with Danny dancing around him, or with Danny dancing around him and hitting him with a lot of lower-level strikes that eventually put him down. In either case neither will be trying to do serious damage to the other in character.
Danny can't hurt him atm
Solid match by Luke wins via attrition
might change after Season 2 for Iron Fist
@georgewbush: It's already been proven he can hurt him...
@georgewbush: pretty much. Luke prompted Danny to hit his palm with an Iron Fist so strong it sent all the goons in the room flying.
It’s also explicitly stated in Luke Cage S2 that he’s considerably more durable and strong than he was in S1.
Danny runs out of chi before he can do any lasting damage to Luke, then dude slaps him unconscious.
Luke.
JJ's Cage looses - iron fist punch > a shotgun
season 1 Luke Cage 50-50
the defenders Luke Cage loses - he looked like shit in that show but I think its because they wanted the other characters to blossom
season 2 Luke Cage beats iron fist - the Judas bullet didn't even hurt him anymore , he beat kill monger twice , when he put both his hand to absorb " the iron fist punch" he didn't go flying
so only the season 2 Luke Cage FTW the rest of the seasons I would say Danny wins
@greysentinel365: I'm pretty much on board with all your points. I do think Danny is a really skilled fighter but imo we've already seen what the Iron Fist can do to Luke and it's not enough to put him down; fight is pretty much simple as that. Frankly I think Luke is basically a tier above all the other Defenders, about super soldier level if not higher in most respects. If Danny was going all out with the Fist for a sustained period maybe he could put Luke down but that would be railing on him not getting tagged at all by Luke in the interim which I don't buy.
The only purely speculative argument I could see for Danny is maybe that the chi guns we saw him using in the post credits scene from IF S2 could maybe pierce Luke but I would say that's a big reach especially since we know he is immune to Judas bullets. Regardless even if you were being that generous to Danny it wouldn't be that much of a factor here since they're in character and Danny would not go for lethal attacks.
You guys are crazy, Defenders Danny was able to send Luke flying and stunned with a single Iron Fist in there first fight, then in the 3v1 Danny knocked Luke TFO, and only got dropped by Jessica while Matt held him down. Defenders Luke Cage already had his “amp” from season 2, so all this is still relevant. Then we add Danny having better Chi control and longer lasting chi, in his season 2, and Luke’s a fricken dead man. Season 2 episode 1 is all you need to see, Danny punches the engine and whole front assembly off an armored truck. Luke’s never been hit with that amount of force, and the force of Bushmasters attacks that did drop him, seriously don’t compare to a solid hit from the iron fist.
Luke oneshots. Danny is a glass cannon.
@jaylinfreeman: Danny can’t possibly be a glass cannon considering he tanks numerous hits from a serious Black Sky Elektra in the last episode of Defenders and keeps getting back up for more. The same Elektra who has knocked the shit out of Cage. Not even that though, Danny’s flashback fight with Davos shows him totally covered in blood, and yet he’s still able to win that fight. Or how about with Danny’s fight with Bakuto, where he gets sliced with a sword and still fights him and later Davos with no issue.
You’re underrating him.
@allstarsuperman: Luke has shrugged off a bomb point blank that shredded an armored car and put Bushmaster on the brink of death. If you think people are underestimating Danny you are underestimating the crap out of Luke.
@allstarsuperman: How am I underrating him? In their first encounter, one strike from Luke completely floored Danny, and on top of that Luke was not trying to severely hurt Rand, just stop him from attacking Cage's friend. A more serious, and focus Luke would KO him without any effort or at very least put him down with a few strikes.
Elektra for the most part, was not trying to severely hurt Danny in Defenders, in fact she revealed, she was holding back against him and the rest of the Defenders throughout the entire series (this was revealed in the final episode IIRC) with the exception of Matt in their first encounter which was a massive inconsistency.
The Bakuto /Davos feat is more along the lines of being a pain tolerance or endurance feat, not necessarily a blunt force durability one.
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