MCU: Ikaris, Phastos & Giglamesh vs Thor, Cap & Ironman

Everyone in character, random encounter but everyone has basic knowledge of what the other side can do.

Cap and Ironman are Endgame versions, Cap has hammer. Thor is IW version with Stormbreaker.

Fight takes place in Wakanda, who takes it?

Trinity decimate them

Ikaris statues and destroys them with HV while Phastos/Gilgamesh support

@nassergrant19: are we sure Ikaris is capable of defeating Thor and Iron Man with his HV?

@sophisticated_ignorance: Definitely. Thor is the biggest threat, and Ikaris could beat him high diff but Iron Man is fodder to him. He will get melted easily by his serous HV. He melted the Dome in half which floated right next to the sun for long periods of time. Tony dies fast and Ikaris takes down Thor high diff.

Eternals

Thor solos. No one here can hurt him and he can one shot them all.

MCU Trinity in a tough battle.

Alot of very different answers in this thread lol anyone else?

Ikaris is too Durable, too fast but not not as strong as thor.

His HV is great weapon, as someone stated it cut the domo in half and melted it which was flying pretty much near the sun unscathed.

If ikaris is as fast as y’all claim he is why can’t he weapon steal?

Because he’s too weak to take it from Thor’s hand.

@nassergrant19: Got to give Ironman credit, just because he’s just a man in a suit doesn’t mean he isnt durable. He has very good durability feats and won’t go down quick

No match for ikaris though

Going with Eternals

Tony's Nano-Tech is super sick... but I'd take Phastos tech powered by limitless Cosmic energy over Nano-Tech

Gil should be too strong and durable for Cap. But Cap puts up a good fight.

Ikaris v Thor.... again good fight!

thor solos. literaly nothing they did could even scratch thor.

What did he do with his beam that puts anywhere near damage output to even harm thor. Floating next to the sun? How far next to the sun. Even surface temperature on the surface of the sun isnt hot enough harm thor. let alone nearby.

Who has ikaris harmed that has durability anywhere near thors level? All he did was defeating few fodder deviants etc. Thats it.

@supermanforever:

What did he do with his beam that puts anywhere near damage output to even harm thor. Floating next to the sun? How far next to the sun. Even surface temperature on the surface of the sun isnt hot enough harm thor. let alone nearby.

It was right next to it lmao. Anything that close should be vaporized. It won’t oneshot Thor but it will sure as hell burn him severely.

He statues him and bombards him with HV. Or he bullrushes him to the sun.

prove his heatvision is that hot. Staying next to the sun means absolutely nothing.

Show me a legit calculation of how far the dome was from the sun and how much was the temperature at that point. You are literaly spitting opinions, but it has nothing logical. Considering that none peak power thor was literaly tanking solar plasma for a quite a while his tiny beams that harmed no one of any caliber will do nothing.

Contrary the most overwanked and overrated mcu character yet namely ikaris has shown 0 feats of decent durability. Thors will one shot with his lightning blast.

his small lightning blast almost knocked hulk, who has much better durability than ikaris on all levels.

This is not even a debate. Ikaris is sure faster, but he has no damage output nor durability or strength to challenge thor. Who did he even even harm to consider him a decent level other than deviants. Sure he went against eternals. But literaly none of them has any decent level of strength. Just bunch of street levelers with few hacks.

Thor murderstomps beyond belief not even close.

@supermanforever:

prove his heatvision is that hot. Staying next to the sun means absolutely nothing.

Except it does lmao.

Thors will one shot with his lightning blast.

He won’t be tagged

This is not even a debate. Ikaris is sure faster,

BY ALOT

but he has no damage output nor durability or strength to challenge thor.

The AP of his bullrush, the heat of his HV, and his speed are enough to beat him.

street levelers

Yup this is beyond trolling. I’m done.

Thor has a good shots of soloing. I'm not recalling any piercing durability feats for them to withstand Stormbreaker. Tony can harass with long range attacks and Cap can take any single one.

Eternals

@samjackson: a casual smack from Thanos made Thor drop his weapon. I was also told Ikaris could statue Clark lol who in return can statue Thor. All I’m saying is keep that same energy.

Anyways Thor solos the Eternals we’re not impressive for high tiers

Thor and Worthy Cap can solo, Tony probably can too. Though I have no doubt Eternals will soon scale to or even above Avengers high tiers, just give it a few more movies.

Its Worthy Cap who has Thor's powers.

@nassergrant19:

Except it does lmao.

Does what? Surface temp of the sun is about 6000 celcius. Calculate the exact temperature there. Could be way less than you think. Oh yeahyou just give random assumptions.Not that it matters thor directly survived plasma heat of a neutron star. His tiny heat vision wont do shit.

Thors will one shot with his lightning blast.

Fodder deviants and bunch of other characters easly tagged him many times. Why wouldnt Thor who is pretty fast himself and lightning even more so.

This is not even a debate. Ikaris is sure faster,

not by alot, he is faster. Again he has been tagged many times by much less. Ignoring it is just stupid and he never was capable of outspeeding perceptions of characters that are miles slower than thor and less powerfull.

The AP of his bullrush, the heat of his HV, and his speed are enough to beat him.

Show me him doing that to anyone that has the caliber of thor durability. Show me him using his strength and overpowering someone at thors level. All he did was fighting bunch of street level fodder.

Making this random claims wont do anything. Show me him damaging X character that has X level of durabilty similar to thor with backed up scans. Im waiting.

Yup this is beyond trolling. I’m done.

You are done because you cant handle it. Their feats are pretty much street levelers with specific abilities. One can mindcontrol one can run fast etc. But still outside of ikaris and makkari their feats are outright crap and wont do shit to thor.

Show me a single one blasting with level of star beam on par with nidavelier, show me single one with striking power of hulk or thanos. Ill be waiting.

Just bunch of random claims. 0 scans to back it up. Keep up with the empty arguments.,

@supermanforever:

Fodder deviants and bunch of other characters easly tagged him many times. Why wouldnt Thor who is pretty fast himself and lightning even more so.

And Thor was tagged by fodder humans. Ikaris was clearly above the deviants cuz all the Eternals agreed they’d die fighting Ikaris even as team…and Thena turned the strongest Deviant into sushi. Kro also couldn’t even penetrate her shields while Ikaris casually shattered them like glass with his punches.

And Thena is fodder to Ikaris…

Unless your implying Kro>>>>Ikaris or minion deviant>>>>ALL Eternals I don’t wanna see this ridiculous lowballing argument again.

All he did was fighting bunch of street level fodder.

Bait

feats are outright crap and wont do shit to thor.

For everyone else and Makkari(besides speed) I agree. Ikaris is a different story tho.

Show me him doing that to anyone that has the caliber of thor durability. Show me a single one blasting with level of star beam on par with nidavelier,0 scans to back it up.

@nassergrant19:

Ok an article statment is your argument, what an absolute lame answer.

And Thor was tagged by fodder humans. Ikaris was clearly above the deviants cuz all the Eternals agreed they’d die fighting Ikaris even as team…and Thena turned the strongest Deviant into sushi. Kro also couldn’t even penetrate her shields while Ikaris casually shattered them like glass with his punches.

I think i was pretty clear when i wrote that he never did go fast enough to outspeed everyones perception they were very capable to track and tag him.

And Thena is fodder to Ikaris…

Unless your implying Kro>>>>Ikaris I don’t wanna see this again.

Whats your point i never stated otherwise.

And i couldnt care less what you want to see or dont want to see.

Bait

Sure everything that you cant disprove is bait to you great arguments.

For everyone else and Makkari I agree. Ikaris is a different story tho.

Then post them proving that he has strength and damage output to harm. All you do i keep posting rubbish opinions that he can do this and that. Show me a single destructive feat strength feat in punching, energy blast or something else that proves to be potent enough harm thor.

I dont care what your opinion is on him.

How does the last article scan prove that he can damage thor?

Lmao your arguments are as weak as expected. Post feats or stop tagging me with absolutely rubbish article statments,

@supermanforever:

Ok an article statment is your argument, what an absolute lame answer.

No that’s a confirmation from the writers of the Eternals lmaooo

Good job disagreeing with the writers.

Whats your point i never stated otherwise.

Dude your trolling. Ikaris>>>>>>Kro>Thena

So your nonsensical Deviant lowballing goes out the window. He blitzes.

Show me a single destructive feat strength feat in punching, energy blast or something else that proves to be potent enough harm thor.

How does the last article scan prove that he can damage thor?

You asked for his durability genius

@nassergrant19: when Writer’s hurr durr is your argument you lost you clown. Island level bullrush? Yet didn’t put down a single deviant with these bull rushes. Same deviants we’re damaged by shotgun shells

Thor solos this

Lol the only clown here is the person disagreeing with the writers of the film.

So they were hurt from Shotguns? Lol sure and Didn’t Thor run from bullets, get wounded by a tiny dagger, and have to be saved from a simple arrow? Don’t even go there…

Wait so Kro, the strongest Deviant>>>Ikaris? Lol Kro lost to Thena who’s fodder to Ikaris…it’s like you turned your brain off the entire film just to lowball.

Who’s the clown now? Ikaris stomps.

@nassergrant19: Thor jumped out the way of 33mm bullets which are far superior to shotgun shells try again. Yes Thor was piercing by that dagger but that’s irrelevant because ikaris has no piercing attacks only energy and brute force.

ABC logic doesn’t work like this, Kro lost to Athena because he’s has nothing to block her weapons with and is not as skilled as her.

iKaris a simple brute is stronger than Athena and has long range. iKaris would have been done in by 2 of Kro minion Deviants in the forest what makes it worst is that he ambushed both of them.

Not a lowball when he’s been consistently shown to be able to handle no more than 1 deviant at a time. He has no answer to Thors lightning he’s not more skilled so he’s cleaved in combat. Druig a fodder in comparison to Thor survived a prolonged eye beam attack from iKaris, Thor no sells it. And when it comes to physicals Thor is tier upon tiers above iKaris who was pinned and overpowered by a deviant who couldn’t lift a tree off it Thor rips him apart.

Cry lowball all you want his consistent showing put him at mid tier easily.

@allhellkingdox:

Thor jumped out the way of 33mm bullets which are far superior to shotgun shells try again.

So he was scared of bullets?

Yes Thor was piercing by that dagger but that’s irrelevant because ikaris has no piercing attacks only energy and brute force.

A tiny dagger, he had to be saved from a fodder arrow, and he was staggered by fodder human punches in AOU...

ABC logic doesn’t work like this Kro lost to Athena because he’s has nothing to block her weapons with and is no skilled as her.

It does cuz Ikaris casually blocked her weapons WITH HIS BARE HANDS. What’s Kro’s excuse? Lmao. Also Ikaris casually shattered her shields like glass with his punches. Kro couldn’t even dent hers.

Ikaris definitely wasn’t as skilled as Thena. They were both less skilled….so I don’t see your point. Thena beat Kro and she’s fodder to Ikaris. Keep coping.

iKaris would have been done in by 2 or Kro minion Deviants in the forest what makes it worst is that he ambushed both of them.

Lol lowball. Ikaris is confirmed far more powerful than the entire Eternals team including Thena. The most powerful Deviant lost to Thena…lol.

He has no answer to Thors lightning he’s not more skilled so he’s cleaved in combat.

The heat generated by his lightning is nothing compared to the core of the sun and if force is the problem he’ll simply dodge it with his superior speed.

Druig a fodder in comparison to Thor survived a prolonged eye beam attack from iKaris, Thor no sells it.

Driug is not fodder cuz he has Eternal physiology…so he’s durable as hell lol. Your acting like he’s human Lmaoo

And when it comes to physicals Thor is tier upon tiers above iKaris who was pinned and overpowered by a deviant who couldn’t lift a tree off it Thor rips him apart.

Ikaris is far more powerful than Kro so that low showing is irrelevant. Thor is stronger but Ikaris has a higher AP and far superior speed. Statues don’t fight back.

Cry lowball all you want his consistent showing put him at mid tier easily.

Your the only troll who keeps insisting on that lmao. By your logic Clark is a mid-tier and unfortunately most people see him that way due to low-showings.

Ikaris destroys him.

Thor can solo. Trinity sweeps

@nassergrant19

The thing is, he hasn't encountered human weapons before, so he might've thought that they could harm them. As for the dagger and arrow, they are both extraterrestrial, enchanted weapons

so they can pierce them. And the arrow was able to pierce what I assume is an Uru shield, so it's not a simple arrow. And you said "The heat generated by his lightning is nothing compared to the core of the sun" as if ikaris went to the core of the sun.

And its magical lightning so it should be more powerful.

Ikaris with CV Hype Force solos.

By consistent showings, most likely Trinity since Phasto and Gilgamesh are really weak Links.

Trinity

Thor and Iron Man vs Ikaris.

Trinity stomps....thor can solo since only Ikaris is a factor here

Having seen more clips Tony can solo a minority and Thor is clapping this. Cap as well.

Endgame trio handily. Ikaris needs better teammates.

MVP Thor , trio wins this. not a stomp at all , but they do win..

team 2 literally fodderizes 😂

I back the Eternals. Ikaris is way too fast to get tagged here, and his bullrush should be strong enough to put Thor out of comission, at least long enough for Phastos to make something that can drain his power or some BS like that. Iron Man and Cap shouldn't be too difficult for Ikaris and Gilgamesh to deal with.

@namenotfound: How fast do you have Ikaris at along with AP/SP?