Poll MCU Ikaris and Makkari vs DCEU Superman and Flash (123 votes)
They start 30ft apart at the “ Superman vs JL fight scene” place.
(Canon DCEU)
Who wins?
They start 30ft apart at the “ Superman vs JL fight scene” place.
(Canon DCEU)
Who wins?
Mak doesn't have the DPS to do anything to Clark other than break her hand and both Flash and Supes can bully Ikaris.
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Since flashs tricks don't work on mcu characters as stated by hulk Makkari blows him to pieces with a sonic boom
Then ikaris and makkari beat superman
Flash gets blown up by a single sonicboom from Makkari and then Eternals Duo proceed to bully the hell out of Clark.
Clark solos Flash solos,
Clark can statue ikaris and cave his face in with a single punch. Makkari is not even laying a finger on Clark who reacts and snaps her like a twig.
@krisbishop: lol a sonic boom he can effortlessly statue? Please get off makkari's wank train. She's a better combatant, yes but flash is so faster than her it's not funny. Clark can easily keep up with ikaris and at least wouldn't have bled and struggled against the fodder deviants but just one outlier of cloud burst and he's above Clark? Lol. Clark has taken more punishment from people who could almost solo the eternals if not solo I.e, zod and doomsday. People are arguing that makkari's bullrush broke through rock bruh, in mos, Clark fell from the sky and broke the top of a mountain. Not going to even mention the world engine feat that no eternal can replicate or scale to. Barry might not be a solid fighter but makkari can't touch him and can evade long enough for Clark to kill ikaris and join him in beating makkari swiftly.
Dceu win 7/10
Clark solos Flash solos,
Clark can statue ikaris and cave his face in with a single punch. Makkari is not even laying a finger on Clark who reacts and snaps her like a twig.
Based on being faster than Supes who is equal in terms of speed to her.
Based on being faster than Supes who is equal in terms of speed to her.
How? Show me a showing of Supes displaying speed even remotely close to Makkari.
@randomidk: Clark back in MOS flight speed was clac at Mach 3400 JL Clark is tiers above MOS Clark in the speed category.
Flash has out paced a flying Clark in the race at the end putting him up there.
iKaris didn’t blitz or statue anybody slow fodder deviants has dodged his eye beams and bullrushed him into a cabin house had him weary and damn near knocked out Clark literally body bags this clown
The DCEU fans in denial are something else.They always bring Ikaris being tagged by deviants while never mention the fact Clark was tagged by bullets and Batman multiple times.
Makkari and Ikaris have better speed feats, they statue. Even SC Flash won't do the trick since he must build up his speed first and doesn't use light speed in combat.
no one is in denial it’s just new movie hype but the funny thing is this time the hype is around characters who’s not particularly on Clark’s level.
Superman literally states if he wanted he could have killed Batman already add that Batman only hit him once he was under kryptonite,
Superman has only been hit by bullets when he chose not to dodge because they’re fodder, Never in a fight was he tagged and wrestled with anything slower than another kryptonian, Especially after JL where he obviously had a big speed boost.
Makkari can be debated but she has been reacted to in nearly killed by literally everything she fought, iKaris hell no not only does he not have any statue feats to speak of he’s not even Makkari’s level speed wise she is a terrible speedsters in terms of fighting constant bull rushes and no maneuverability, also she literally grabs all of her opponents which is basically giving up her speed by locking herself up with the enemy.
ikaris can’t statue anyone he’s simply not fast enough couldn’t statue deviants, Humans, other Eternals, or anything for that matter he gets his face caved in.
So wrong Flash can go near light speed casually even low balling by saying near “lightspeed is 5% of the actual speed of light would still put him Mach 35k which does indeed statued these clowns.
Flash needs no build up to go MFTL it literally only took him that long to do because he was debating about breaking his own rule in a fight scenario there is no debate. But let me play along even if he did need build up he could literally stay intangible like he did once the unity was going off to build up the speed so they couldn’t do anything to him anyways.
Saying a DCEU speedster can’t use traveling speed in combat is laughable when even when he not moving the world around him is slowed down/Frozen to his perception that is the whole point of the word statue force you clown.
Flash literally stopping watching iRis as a statue in mid air proves my point.
Clark completely standing still was able to see and follow Flash while Diana and Co was statued shows they’re travel = they’re combat speed because they have complete control over they’re perception. Unlike miss Makkari who is only in super speed when she’s actively moving.
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no one is in denial it’s just new movie hype but the funny thing is this time the hype is around characters who’s not particularly on Clark’s level.
Superman literally states if he wanted he could have killed Batman already add that Batman only hit him once he was under kryptonite,
Superman has only been hit by bullets when he chose not to dodge because they’re fodder, Never in a fight was he tagged and wrestled with anything slower than another kryptonian, Especially after JL where he obviously had a big speed boost.
Makkari can be debated but she has been reacted to in nearly killed by literally everything she fought, iKaris hell no not only does he not have any statue feats to speak of he’s not even Makkari’s level speed wise she is a terrible speedsters in terms of fighting constant bull rushes and no maneuverability, also she literally grabs all of her opponents which is basically giving up her speed by locking herself up with the enemy.
ikaris can’t statue anyone he’s simply not fast enough couldn’t statue deviants, Humans, other Eternals, or anything for that matter he gets his face caved in.
So wrong Flash can go near light speed casually even low balling by saying near “lightspeed is 5% of the actual speed of light would still put him Mach 35k which does indeed statued these clowns.
Flash needs no build up to go MFTL it literally only took him that long to do because he was debating about breaking his own rule in a fight scenario there is no debate. But let me play along even if he did need build up he could literally stay intangible like he did once the unity was going off to build up the speed so they couldn’t do anything to him anyways.
Saying a DCEU speedster can’t use traveling speed in combat is laughable when even when he not moving the world around him is slowed down/Frozen to his perception that is the whole point of the word statue force you clown.
Flash literally stopping watching iRis as a statue in mid air proves my point.
Clark completely standing still was able to see and follow Flash while Diana and Co was statued shows they’re travel = they’re combat speed because they have complete control over they’re perception. Unlike miss Makkari who is only in super speed when she’s actively moving.
@randomidk: Clark back in MOS flight speed was clac at Mach 3400 JL Clark is tiers above MOS Clark in the speed category.
Flash has out paced a flying Clark in the race at the end putting him up there.
iKaris didn’t blitz or statue anybody slow fodder deviants has dodged his eye beams and bullrushed him into a cabin house had him weary and damn near knocked out Clark literally body bags this clown
I feel like that is more of a feat for the deviants than an antifeat for Ikaris.
I still stand by my opinion
Makkari and Ikaris are both faster than canon DCEU Flash and Superman.
DCEU Flash and Superman get blitzed
That’s laughable, Ikaris is nowhere near Superman in terms of combat speed let alone Flash.
First off, you cant deny it.. Makkari wasn’t fighting at her peak speed during her fight with Ikaris, you can even still see the debris moving around when he was trying to beam her, that wouldn’t happen if she was going at full speed.
Second, him reacting to Makkari was an anti-feat for her, if she was going full speed she should’ve been able to dodge it easily given he doesn’t have a single noteworthy speed feat in the entirety of the movie (outside of his travel speed at the end of the movie, which in itself is unquantifiable)
Mcu squad doesnt have the damage output to put superman down.
We have seen ikaris get monkey slapped around by fodder deviants throughout the entire movie.
Speed force speed> super sonic speed
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Makkari and Ikaris are both faster than canon DCEU Flash and Superman.
DCEU Flash and Superman get blitzed
That’s laughable, Ikaris is nowhere near Superman in terms of combat speed let alone Flash.
First off, you cant deny it.. Makkari wasn’t fighting at her peak speed during her fight with Ikaris, you can even still see the debris moving around when he was trying to beam her, that wouldn’t happen if she was going at full speed.
This was the only time she slowed down during the fight.
Second, him reacting to Makkari was an anti-feat for her, if she was going full speed she should’ve been able to dodge it easily given he doesn’t have a single noteworthy speed feat in the entirety of the movie (outside of his travel speed at the end of the movie, which in itself is unquantifiable)
I still don't see how this is an anti feat.
@randomidk: how is it a feat for the deviant when the same deviants could not burst through a metal wall sersi made (Clark casual back hand destroyed the Kryptonian mothership krypton metal >>> any earthly metals)
The same deviants could not lift a metallic tree off of it instead squeezed from under it.
Now please tell me how that is a feat for the deviant again lol
Flash gets blown up by a single sonicboom from Makkari and then Eternals Duo proceed to bully the hell out of Clark.
Are people seriously arguing Canon Flash is anywhere near Makkari's speed?
lmao at Flash dying from a sonic boom
canon versions of the team probably lose, Snyder Cut versions slaughter. Flash would legit stomp Makkari, as he casually went near-LS to resurrect Superman. Let’s assume this was 99% the SOL, it would absolutely statue Makkari and Ikaris
Can’t flash vibrate & go intangible? Clark fresh off a rez can fly to orbit in an instant. Flash can beyond light speed. Clark has 3.5m heat vision, frost breath, super wind, all super stats as well as invulnerability no weakness besides kryptonite & he gets stronger every second.
@cupofreality1: not canon flash no. Not in an instant but I’m confused how that’s relevant. Canon flash can’t. SC flash needs a whole pep talk and ikaris can travel ftl too. Nope he doesn’t. How’s that relevant? Eh not really. Red sun radiation also does the trick.
Makkari faster than Flash? Lol
Mcu fans just like the actress
When she would run so fast to reverse time, then we would talk
Would you rank the reverse time feat as a combat feat? As impressive as that feat was, Let's be real here!! Makkari would beat flash to death in a ROFLStomp as she is superior in just aboutevery way. Flash was tagged not once but twice by parademon blaster fire & he was nearly carried away by them until Diana came in and saved him. Makkari would have cleared out that entire room/silo of parademons in a second or two.
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@noobofnoobs: Agree with everything. I can't understand why people think that Ikaris is better or much better than Superman when he showed nothing to prove this.
i think makkari statues both of thme and since she absolutely bullied ikaris in the mivie she stomps both of them
Lmao at Flash soloing. He doesn't have the damage output to hurt anyone here. Superman is the MVP, and he can defeat both Makkari and Ikaris.
@allhellkingdox: canon flash has no phasing…
@ecoblitz: he phased through the wall when he revived Clark
@allhellkingdox: post it
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