Kara solo, Superman solo, Red Daughter solo and obliterates into pieces this overwanked tk and "matter manipulator" uses just simply blitzing them into oblivion
Two reality warpers with the needed speed to react vs a bunch of bricks
I wonder what will happen
Cool. Superman tanked without scratch at least universal+ book of monitor as joke and stop comparing PF to monitor's book. Also Supergirl has tanked Red Daughter reality manipulating thunder ( energy bounced from her body ) and in novels has tanked city-pseudoplanetary reality warping from Ancient rome demons. Kara has 2 subatomic lvl matter manipulation and she is tooooooooooo fast, I cav and proof Kara simply obliterates them. + her absolute zero will simply break them easily
@fantaman11: So they both tanked energy attacks. Neat, that doesn’t prevent them from getting turned to dust by either Thanos or dark Phoenix. Or TPd by dark Phoenix who stomped Xavier. Or turned to putty by an IG blast.
@fantaman11: So they both tanked energy attacks. Neat, that doesn’t prevent them from getting turned to dust by either Thanos or dark Phoenix. Or TPd by dark Phoenix who stomped Xavier. Or turned to putty by an IG blast.
Supergirl teached herself how to protect herself from Psi. Very same Psi who with one hit seperated Samantha's dark side ( bfring it to dimension of Dark Valley ) enforcing normal Sam taking control over the body ( even she scared said "Supergirl" forcing her to retreat. Psi also in tie-in comic belonging to canon as metaphysical form closed Supergirl's mind ( but that was S1 Supergirl ) while she was dreaming forcing her to survive endless lives as never ending timeloop. Manhunter cannot read her mind ( same one can communicate across planets, shield Alex and Eliza from Myriad, with touch simply memory wipe u instantly and changing your attitude/rewriting your thoughts, force telepathic bounty hunter to say confess ( one who was mindraping Mon-El completely ), could freeze Lockwood's family on distance turning all Manchester's pain against him+ could kill him with one shot. In tie-in comic J'onn oneshoted Vrill Dox who despite powerful power dampening cell still was mindraping DEO agents and Rampage the Hulk like raging beast who was getting stronger via anger ). M'yrnn could only make her angry ( turned all DEO into brainless killing each other zombies ) but still Supergirl was being aware what is she doing controlling herself. Same M'yrnn can break psychic device, very same device used to dampen Psi's powers. Not saying Jean won't affect her but remember Young Xavier is not like with Cerebro or Apocalypse range enhancing power. Kara is simply very hard to be mindhaxed. Apocalypse had such hax that allowed him to channel his powers toward other powers ( white eyes ) to enhance his might or others temporary. That how he could enhance Charles's range on planetar scale. Idk how Apocalypse took control over cerebro but it was like "Thanks for letting me in".
Ok DP could react to Thunder of Storm from wooden decks but Kara's lasers are consistently faster like close to light speed. Supergirl casually outspeeds Livewire's thunders and her lasers are faster so how Jean is gonna react to lasers. + i remember her body was surrounded with telekinetic cocoon but can this coccon resit that laser ? Pietro couldn't blitz her because of cocoon and it was on decks. Jean is still glass canon but PF will simply fly away. + Red Daughter powers could somehow with hax to sth to PF.
Kara and Kal from CW smiles from it. They already has taken superior subatomic lvl matter altering/manipulating heats. It won't even tickle them. Spheer nanites and Monitor's book >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Phoenix
Yes. Monitor Book via wish power rewrites universe along with history ( Low 2-C feat ) and as pure beam 'warps reality' via terrain and matter manipulation like transmuting building skies including the sun ( as temporarily turned Earth-1 into Earth-X and back ). Please do not compare Jean to power of Monitor Book. Phoenix Force was once stated it forged cosmos but Monitor's book rewrites in an instant along with history of anything. Superman has taken this beam and was fine.
Spheer tech atomises people withour even leaving any vissible track. Same tech has visually smaller particles than single hydrogen atom in first introducement. This technology can in an instant atomiclly change organism into living robot full of living nanites. Technology already filtrated entire atmosphere on global scale from kryptonite ( global because it even covered all atmosphere over Kasnia ). And those nanites filtrated atmospherein hours precisely without leaving any molecule. This is technology of Lena Luthor. Same nanotech creates spacesuit which can drain kryptonite from Kara's body.
+ Jean is not gonna react to just simple heatvision toward her and haxbroken abilities of freeze breath and absolute zero would simply freeze body killing it
And Red Daughter with this feat..... ( creating weird night and additional shining celestial body which cannot be even normal sun's shine because sun was directly at opposite site )
Sorry but Fox Phoenix Jean omegahighball must decease.
People like zombies say Jean stomps, jean stomps, jean stomp, jean atomises, Jean atomises lalalalalla and nobody cares there are characters far superior and tanked greater lvl haxes identical to her.
So who does she stomp ?
Bruce Allmighty ?
Maybe Fox Silver Surfer ( who created those big sink holes what is greater lvl matter manip. than Jean could ever imagine + she doesn't even have any matter manipulation powers ) ?
Maybe all CW John Constantine villains and all demonic and angelic spirits from horror movies ( which aren't even material beings but spiritual evil forces from hell or heavens ).
What about time demons from fox legion series
or MCU Dormammu who isn't even physical form
or entire CW Speedforce which can erase universes out of existence via Flashpoints
Problem is your putting physical non Jax beings against a non-caporal fire bird.
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There is nothing to punch, there is nothing to freeze, there is nothing to heat vision.
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How could the team even hurt the fully realized Phoenix.
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Because that what jean is at the end of the movie, a giant energy bird.
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I think these battles should be broken into two categories.
1. The fully realized Phoenix (firsbird$
2. The avatar of the Phoenix (jeans body)
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The end to Dark Phoenix made clear that current jean doesn’t need a body, (she blew it up herself).
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The Phoenix force itself can destroy and reform planets full of complex life in seconds.
ahhh this Jean ? Ah so sorry. I though we talk about restricted. So sorry man. Forgive me. I thought we are talking about restricted to Jean's body not full/pure Phoenix Force. So sorry. Maybe in until Crisis Harun-El Kara will do sth impressive against in corporeal beings. So sorry again.
Thanos gets blitzed extremely casually. Just one freeze breath or heatvision from CW Kryptonians and done. But then Jean as full composte not body restricted beats them by destroying planet and leaving them in space
In CW those guys can only beat Phoenix Jean according to their feats:
Manny:
Constantine with prep against spiritual beings mainly counting feats from his unfinished Season of CBS. He can use air of Hades's realm or send her to hell or set trap on her like to this angelness Imodgen. I know Jean is multiplanetary full with Phoenix Force but those kind of magicians can create even suns out of knowhere in soul realms
Mnemoth demon or other demonic/spiritual beings John deals with even Egyptian dreamer/Jacob Shaw or Felix Faust or demons ( like Eitrigan ) from Supergirl tie-in novels ( All in-corporeal beings ):
Monitor's book ( overally reality warping/timeline erasing devices ):
Spear of Destiny ( but unfortunately with time ):
H'ronmeer Staff:
Speedsters ( But only erasing from timeline via flashpoints ):
Fairy Godmother when their soul bound wishes sb to be destroyed
I've heard about Dark Phoenix , but don't really know what she can do , but I guess she's powerful enough to carry.
Thanos dies , IG or not it won't matter since it would be snatched away from his hand via speed blitz by the Kryptonians before he can process what's happening. He can solo if he somehow gets a chance to snap , which he won't.
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