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#1 Edited by xtreme1 (4106 posts) - - Show Bio
  • Movie versions of all. Win by any means. Good teamwork.
  • Fight starts 100 yards apart and visible in an abandoned New York City.
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#2 Posted by DarkRaiden (15466 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1 due to Thor's lightning and Vision's intangibility.

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#3 Posted by xtreme1 (4106 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump

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#4 Posted by TheSilentRipper (2530 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2 stomps

Magneto >> Vision

Phoenix and Shaw >> Thor and Hulk

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#5 Posted by termiteone4ever (12882 posts) - - Show Bio

Wait how is Hulk and Thor going defeat the phoenix

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#6 Edited by buildhare (8716 posts) - - Show Bio

Hulk and Thor kill Phoneix fairly easily

Magneto can kill anyone on the MCU team if given a little time, chances are he takes care of vision instantly

The real problem is Shaw. He didn't show any limits in first class so for all intents and purposes he can probably solo here. Unless Thor BFR'S him, maybe.

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#7 Posted by killers10333 (3441 posts) - - Show Bio

Hulk can destroy mageneto and survive pheonix long enough to do it, vision can kill pheonix due to being metal and intangebility, and shaw can be killed by all 3, especially thor

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#8 Posted by SirDrProfessor (1699 posts) - - Show Bio

Magneto wrecks

Step 1- Shred Vision

Step 2- Hold Thor in place so he can't move or do anything

Step 3- Wrap the Hulk up in some rebar and suspend him in the air

Step 4- Drop yankee stadium on Hulk and Thor

GG

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#9 Posted by Gaztacular (409 posts) - - Show Bio

Mutants kill it. Magneto can end Vision instantly and restrain Thor with some effort. Hulk can slug Shaw all day with nothing to show for it but a stronger enemy. Shaw and Magneto can then hold the Avengers up for free shots and Phoenix disintegrates them.

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#10 Posted by depinhom (13506 posts) - - Show Bio

X-Men villains

Not really that close

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#11 Posted by AtheistKnowledge (9595 posts) - - Show Bio

X-men.

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#12 Posted by Ready_4_Madness (16662 posts) - - Show Bio

X-Men destroy them badly

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#13 Posted by PeterParkerJr (6767 posts) - - Show Bio

X-Men for the majority.

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#14 Posted by Spector_Rand (3946 posts) - - Show Bio

X-Men. Magneto is just too strong and is known to BFR those he can't flat out kill (Thor and Hulk).

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#15 Posted by JediXMan (42744 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2.

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#16 Posted by Greendevil (2681 posts) - - Show Bio

Wait how is Hulk and Thor going defeat the phoenix

Wolverine stabbed her 1 time and she died. His healing factor was strong enough for him to get close. Why couldn't Hulk and Thor get close enough to slap her silly?

The only "bad" matchup for the MCU would be Vision vs Magneto

But Vision is a good fight for Shaw or Phoenix imo

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#17 Posted by Ready_4_Madness (16662 posts) - - Show Bio

@greendevil: she allowed him to come close because she wanted him to kill her.

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#18 Posted by BulletTimer (1090 posts) - - Show Bio

Shaw arguably solos

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#19 Posted by Greendevil (2681 posts) - - Show Bio

Shaw arguably solos

How can Shaw defat Vision?

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#20 Posted by Amnesiak (3669 posts) - - Show Bio

X-men

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#21 Posted by BulletTimer (1090 posts) - - Show Bio

@bullettimer said:

Shaw arguably solos

How can Shaw defat Vision?

Absorb energy until he's strong enough to tango

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#22 Posted by uugieboogie (13261 posts) - - Show Bio

Probably Team 1 with Vision being MVP

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#23 Posted by WastelandMan (8812 posts) - - Show Bio

X-Men.

Shaw and Phoenix too hax.

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#24 Posted by Ajax24601 (366 posts) - - Show Bio

Magneto wrecks

Step 1- Shred Vision

Step 2- Hold Thor in place so he can't move or do anything

Step 3- Wrap the Hulk up in some rebar and suspend him in the air

Step 4- Drop yankee stadium on Hulk and Thor

GG

Except that:

1. Vision can be intangible.

2. Hold Thor up by what?

3. Because Hulk wouldn't just break out?

4. This was a high end feat, requiring lots of concentration. If Hulk gets a hold of him, he's dead.

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#25 Edited by SirDrProfessor (1699 posts) - - Show Bio

@sirdrprofessor said:

Magneto wrecks

Step 1- Shred Vision

Step 2- Hold Thor in place so he can't move or do anything

Step 3- Wrap the Hulk up in some rebar and suspend him in the air

Step 4- Drop yankee stadium on Hulk and Thor

GG

Except that:

1. Vision can be intangible.

2. Hold Thor up by what?

3. Because Hulk wouldn't just break out?

4. This was a high end feat, requiring lots of concentration. If Hulk gets a hold of him, he's dead.

1. So what? Do it before he goes intangible. He hasn't been shown to stay intangible for extended periods of time.

2. All the metal Thor is wearing.

3. His arms and legs will be spread apart and he will be suspended in mid air. How is he going to break out?

4. If Magneto doesn't drop a building on them, Phoenix will.

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#26 Posted by Greendevil (2681 posts) - - Show Bio

@greendevil said:
@bullettimer said:

Shaw arguably solos

How can Shaw defat Vision?

Absorb energy until he's strong enough to tango

That would require prep time. Op says nothing about that. So how the hell is he going to absorb anything fast enough?

Shaw got killed by a coin lol. Vision smokes him imo

@greendevil: she allowed him to come close because she wanted him to kill her.

Wont matter what she throws at him. She won't even slow him down. He grabs her and breaks her neck imo!

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#27 Posted by Sy9122 (62 posts) - - Show Bio

It's so sad how you guys put Phoenix in this. It's even sadder that you think Hulk of all people could win against Phoenix. Smh.

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#28 Posted by Andrelf7 (169 posts) - - Show Bio

the big problem is Phoenix here...she should solo...

but depending on the combination, Team 1 would have a chance

Vision can go intangible and kill Shaw
Thor can deal with Magneto using Mjolnir's speed and lightning

but if Thor goes against Shaw and Vision goes against Mags, this gets a different outcome for me...we don't know Shaw's limitations, so Thor can unleash a lot of power and do nothing but charge Shaw...

i just don't think anyone on team 1 can beat Phoenix if she's serious on the fight...switch her for another villain...

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#29 Posted by cdiddyman911 (5537 posts) - - Show Bio

Mags prob solos

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#30 Posted by buildhare (8716 posts) - - Show Bio

@greendevil:

Shaw got killed by a coin lol. Vision smokes him imo

That's some terrible, out of context lowballing you've got there.

They have no answer to him whatsoever outside of BFR (Incap?) from Thor.

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#31 Edited by Hocko1999_VIRUS (2970 posts) - - Show Bio

Magneto scraps Vision immediately, and Thor is covered in metal armour, so he gets instantly incapped too.

Shaw would probably urge Hulk to attack him. If Hulk goes after Shaw unless he throws him into orbit or something, all he'll do is power him up.

Magneto then uses Vision's scraped body as a shield when Pheonix levels the place. Since Hulk and Thor have shown to be neither as durable as adamantium nor have as good healing as Wolverine, they get obliterated.

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#32 Posted by BulletTimer (1090 posts) - - Show Bio

@bullettimer said:
@greendevil said:
@bullettimer said:

Shaw arguably solos

How can Shaw defat Vision?

Absorb energy until he's strong enough to tango

That would require prep time. Op says nothing about that. So how the hell is he going to absorb anything fast enough?

Shaw got killed by a coin lol. Vision smokes him imo

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@greendevil: she allowed him to come close because she wanted him to kill her.

Wont matter what she throws at him. She won't even slow him down. He grabs her and breaks her neck imo!

Doesn't require anything of the sort

He absorbs energy and uses it to amp himself, can you imagine how strong he'd be after a citybusting lightning strike from Thor and a blitz from Vision? He'd tear their heads off

Shaw was locked down by Charles' TP and Magneto slowly pushed the coin to avoid imparting any energy, there's zero reason for any of the MCU guys to do that or even know about it

They'll hit him hard and quick, realising too late the source of his powers

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#33 Posted by deactivated-5c8fd6cb3e4f4 (18365 posts) - - Show Bio

@ajax24601 said:
@sirdrprofessor said:

Magneto wrecks

Step 1- Shred Vision

Step 2- Hold Thor in place so he can't move or do anything

Step 3- Wrap the Hulk up in some rebar and suspend him in the air

Step 4- Drop yankee stadium on Hulk and Thor

GG

Except that:

1. Vision can be intangible.

2. Hold Thor up by what?

3. Because Hulk wouldn't just break out?

4. This was a high end feat, requiring lots of concentration. If Hulk gets a hold of him, he's dead.

1. So what? Do it before he goes intangible. He hasn't been shown to stay intangible for extended periods of time.

2. All the metal Thor is wearing.

3. His arms and legs will be spread apart and he will be suspended in mid air. How is he going to break out?

4. If Magneto doesn't drop a building on them, Phoenix will.

ALL THIS

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#34 Posted by icec0ld (1325 posts) - - Show Bio

You picked the three most insanely powered mutants. They would Shred the Avengers team you have.

Thor is covered in metal armor

Vision is metal

Phoenix TK and Telepathy are more than strong enough to deal with the Hulk. If Scarlett witch can mind control him than he stands no chance against Jean here.

And without a psychic no one on the field other than the Phoenix can directly hurt Shaw. If Hulk punches him full power Shaw turns into a Nuke and solos.

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#35 Posted by UFT (4533 posts) - - Show Bio

shaw can potentially solo

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#36 Posted by AlphaQ (6356 posts) - - Show Bio

Phoenix solos via TP, Magneto could solo but certainly kills Vision and Shaw would stomp Hulk and Thor.

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#37 Posted by Ready_4_Madness (16662 posts) - - Show Bio

@alphaq: magneto can also use Vision as his personal weapon

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#38 Posted by WarBlade539 (6217 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2 stomps

Magneto >> Vision

Phoenix and Shaw >> Thor and Hulk

Can Magneto manipulate vibranium?

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#39 Posted by TheSilentRipper (2530 posts) - - Show Bio

@thesilentripper said:

Team 2 stomps

Magneto >> Vision

Phoenix and Shaw >> Thor and Hulk

Can Magneto manipulate vibranium?

I guess so

But anyway with their new feats, the should still stomp

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#40 Posted by Chris-Sama (3624 posts) - - Show Bio

@sirdrprofessor: lol he can't "hold" Thor lol

Thor's asgardian strength>>>>>mags magnetic strength. hulk kills magneto then him and vision rolfstomps Phoenix

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#41 Edited by jayc1324 (26431 posts) - - Show Bio

This is a really good fight. Either team can win but I would take team 1 due to thors lightning and ability to just bust whatever ground their fighting on. That can end things very quickly.

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#42 Posted by JediXMan (42744 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor's asgardian strength>>>>>mags magnetic strength.

.... yeah, sure...

What's Thor's best strength feat? Probably something superhuman. Good for him.

Magneto was casually lifting and moving the Golden Gate bridge, carrying a baseball arena, stopped an entire fleet's missile barrage, etc. Apocalypse Magneto's feats only got better:

  • Vaporized Auschwitz.
  • All simultaneously: Erected a personal defense shield of magnetism, manipulated the Earth's magnetic spectrum, crushed multiple cities from continents away (bridges and buildings in NYC, crushed the Sydney Opera House), lifting shipwrecks from the ocean floor, etc.

Magneto is a casual city buster on a planetary level. From a continent away, he can crush a city with his power. They weren't capable of stopping him from doing so; he was convinced to stop. He would have wiped out all cities on the planet in time.

But yeah, sure, Thor's "Asgardian strength" will be enough to resist that. Right.

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#43 Posted by JediXMan (42744 posts) - - Show Bio
@jayc1324 said:

ability to just bust whatever ground their fighting on. That can end things very quickly.

Magneto is a city buster now. He was simultaneously crushing NYC, Sydney, and other areas around the world from continents away while manipulating the entire Earth's electromagnetic spectrum.

He has far more destructive feats than... well, frankly, the entire Avengers roster combined, if not the entire MCU combined (minus power gems... and even then...)

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#44 Posted by jayc1324 (26431 posts) - - Show Bio

@jedixman: He sure does but he still has human durability and can still be taken out by any member of the MCU team. He can take any of them out (at least BFR) as well too though which is why this is such a good fight.

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#45 Posted by JediXMan (42744 posts) - - Show Bio
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@jedixman: He sure does but he still has human durability and can still be taken out by any member of the MCU team.

He has the power to erect shields. Also, since when do members of the Avengers speedblitz? They don't do it very often, if at all; the only time I can think of is when pre-humbled Thor blitzed a Frost Giant... don't see him doing that to Magneto. Magneto's powers have been shown to take effect very, very fast. Considering the fact that most if not all of the Avengers have metal on them, and the area is covered in metal, I don't see why the battle won't end when it begins.

Magneto was fast enough to kill a dozen men before any of them could react. With a locket.

At 100 yards, with nothing but metal between the Avengers and Magneto, I see Magneto soloing.

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#46 Posted by zr0c00l (3143 posts) - - Show Bio

i feel like shaw can solo here magneto is too much and makes this spite.... and when jean gets more explanation of her powers along with showings she solos too.

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#47 Edited by jayc1324 (26431 posts) - - Show Bio

@jedixman: His shields, unless I'm forgetting something, are only made out of metal or rock which is like paper to the MCU team. If you mean the shield thing he did in Apocalypse then that may be trouble but he won't just automatically do that, that was a special case. Plus it's possible Mjolnir could break through, and I'm not sure if it blocks energy blasts or not.

Vision is mostly metal so he will be easily destroyed but I dont think hulk would have metal. And as I said earlier, metal is like paper to hulk and Thor so even though Magneto may be able to move Thor around at will, and can simply wrap metal around Hulk and move him around too, how is he supposed to hurt them? The only way I see him winning is BFR which I mentioned earlier. He can send all types of metal objects at Thor and hulk but it would just slow them down.

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#48 Posted by Deranged Midget (18346 posts) - - Show Bio

Last Stand Phoenix was a joke, durability wise. Thor can easily blast her with an attack, whip MJOLNIR at her, or Vision can just his mind gem. Although, I don't think anyone is capable of stopping Shaw, unless Vision's intangibility can play into that.

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#49 Posted by JediXMan (42744 posts) - - Show Bio

@jayc1324 said:

Vision is mostly metal so he will be easily destroyed but I dont think hulk would have metal. And as I said earlier, metal is like paper to hulk and Thor so even though Magneto may be able to move Thor around at will, and can simply wrap metal around Hulk and move him around too, how is he supposed to hurt them? The only way I see him winning is BFR which I mentioned earlier. He can send all types of metal objects at Thor and hulk but it would just slow them down.

You say that as if Thor and Hulk are invincible. Tony Stark's primary method for being Hulk was to fight him. He punched him with metal and threw him through metal. I don't see why Thor or Hulk wouldn't go down after enough hits.

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#50 Posted by jayc1324 (26431 posts) - - Show Bio

@jedixman: So you're arguing they can be beaten by throwing metal at them or throwing them around? They aren't invincible but it is a fact that their skin and bones are harder than metal and rock and the metal/rocks will break before they do. Tony just pissed Hulk off throughout the fight and his suit was getting ripped apart. You bring up that fight like Hulk was ever actually damaged. Like I said before, it will just slow them down. Not actually defeat them. Magneto as far as I know has never put metal through anyone as durable as these two.