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Poll MCU: Hela vs Hulk (143 votes)

Hela 87%
Hulk 13%

Hela replaces Thor in the arena. She cannot spam swords, but she can fight with two of her choosing. She has her on-Asgard physical stats (strength, durability, etc.). Who wins?

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#51  Edited By Buckwheat

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@finalkingthanos:

One of them broke Thor's hammer but go on and lowball her some more.

PS calling someone you don't know "kid" is somewhat rude.

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@johndeyvido: dont condescend in the first place then.

One of them has one feat from movie to script filled with ambiguous magic and pis and all other feats only putting them above Thor by a reasonable amount.

Aye cool to you anaw mate.

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#54  Edited By OnlyOneEmpereor

@Knowledge_King: Kurse can’t, he can’t beat a single kryptonian even if you remove speed.

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@buckwheat: continental durability , planetary STRIKING for moving Surtur, better travel speed than Hela.

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@Knowledge_King: Kurse can’t, he can’t beat a single kryptonian even if you remove speed.

He can and will due to feats against Mjolnir (which is greater than Kryptonians) and Thor (also greater than Kryptonians).

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planetary STRIKING for moving Surtur, better travel speed than Hela.

I might be repeating myself, if so, I apologize, but... MCU Hulk planetary??

You mean to say that Hulk can strike with enough force to destroy a planet? Is that what you are stating?

You are joking am I right?

Oh, I get it, you are trolling. A little trolling doesn't hurt anyone. We all do it from time to time I suppose.

Good one though. The official MCU jobber has planetary STRIKING force. I must've missed that movie.

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@onlyoneempereor said:

@Knowledge_King: Kurse can’t, he can’t beat a single kryptonian even if you remove speed.

He can and will due to feats against Mjolnir (which is greater than Kryptonians) and Thor (also greater than Kryptonians).

Debatable.

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#61  Edited By Nucleon

@onlyoneempereor: Nah - he did so by destroying Asgard - you can see it in Hela's face before she dies, as if she notices that something isn't going as planned. Maybe she realized, at that precise moment, that she had been defeated. From that point on, simple Asgardian footsoldier fodder could have killed her with his regulation sword.

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#64  Edited By Buckwheat

@onlyoneempereor said:

Yes he was planetary strikinf.

1.) Sutur is not planetary, since Asgard is not a planet, it is only a small island. I wouldn't even compare it in size to a continent.

2.) Hulk moving Sutur doesn't make him equal to Sutur. I had a grasshopper jump and hit me in the face once, I jumped back and turned my head away, does not mean the insect was as strong as I.

So 2+1 = Hulk is not planetary, unless you have something more than him moving Sutur with a hit to back your claim.

You can see the size of the city, in the center, and the mountains' hight, to deduce the size of Asgard. It is nowhere as large as a planet.
You can see the size of the city, in the center, and the mountains' hight, to deduce the size of Asgard. It is nowhere as large as a planet.

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@onlyoneempereor said:

Yes he was planetary strikinf.

1.) Sutur is not planetary, since Asgard is not a planet, it is only a large island. I wouldn't even compare it in size to a continent.

2.) Hulk moving Sutur doesn't make him equal to Sutur. I had a grasshopper jump and hit me in the face once, I jumped back and turned my head away, does not mean the insect was as strong as I.

So 2+1 = Hulk is not planetary, unless you have something more than him moving Sutur with a hit.

You can see the size of the city, in the center, and the mountains' hight, to deduce the size of Asgard. It is nowhere as large as a planet.
You can see the size of the city, in the center, and the mountains' hight, to deduce the size of Asgard. It is nowhere as large as a planet.

It’s been stated Asgard IS a planet. Size doesn’t matter, a small planet is still a planet therefore Surtur is planetary and Hulk did move him.

it proves The insect has enough force to hit hard and move Or do damage, if not ha would have hurted his hands.

Hulk has continental durability by the way and superior travel speed.

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#66  Edited By Buckwheat

@onlyoneempereor:

It’s been stated Asgard IS a planet. Size doesn’t matter, a small planet is still a planet therefore Surtur is planetary and Hulk did move him.

On this specific matter size matters very much, since we are talking of been able to destroy something that represents a specific size.

If we use "planet" as a measuring bar for things that are of the size of a planet, then the size is the most relevant part we are reffering to. Do you follow me?

We don't use "planet" to refer to something that has live on it, or to refer to something that orbits a star. We use "planet" to refer to something of a specific SIZE. So Asgard been the size of an small island matters very much, because Sutur can only destroy an island-sized mass and would be completely unable to destroy a planet with the size of the Earth.

it proves The insect has enough force to hit hard and move Or do damage, if not ha would have hurted his hands.

But is does NOT prove the insect to be equal in force to what it hit. So moving Sutur does not mean you have the same force as Sutur.

I don't see how you can pretend moving someone makes you as strong as who you moved.

A baby pocked me in the eye once, I moved back, do you believe babies to be as strong as full grown men?

Hulk has continental durability by the way

Thor KOed Hulk. Jet Thor was COMPLETELY UNABLE to hurt, stop or KO Hela. I don't care how we decide to call Hulk's level of durability, whichever it is, Hela's is better.

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MCU hulk should win, but unfortunately he sucks

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Bruh how you go by scaling?

You are not refuting any of the points I make. You are not even paying attention to what I say.

You should work on your debating skills.

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If Hela were completely unarmed I could maybe - MAYBE - see a slight chance for Hulk.

As is, she cuts him open.

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#72  Edited By Buckwheat

@onlyoneempereor said:

I don’t agree on what you said lulz

Yup. That is obvious.

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Hela, not close.

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@buckwheat: Hela by strenght but Thor has a better weapon which is more powerful than Hela.

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Hela by strenght but Thor has a better weapon which is more powerful than Hela.

Ok, so if Thor without his weapon was able to KO Hulk in Ragnarok, and Hela is stronger than Thor, Hela can defeat Hulk.

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@onlyoneempereor said:

Hela by strenght but Thor has a better weapon which is more powerful than Hela.

Ok, so if Thor without his weapon was able to KO Hulk in Ragnarok, and Hela is stronger than Thor, Hela can defeat Hulk.

I think so but If Hulk gets momentum he might win.

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#78  Edited By destinyman75

@kinglouie: Hulk by feats isn't as strong as Thor after Ragnarok, durable Thor stomps him in that as well by feats and Hela toyed with Thor which hulk can't even beat him so........

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Hela and it's not even close

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I wish Hulk ever get any respect in MCU at very least at entire franchise end: World Breaker Hulk or Savage Hulk

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tbf Thor never ACTUALLY KO’d Hulk.

It wasn't showed onscreen, but they way it happened: Hulk was beating savagely Thor's face, he was about to black out, then he has a vision of Odin blablablah, next thing we see is Thor punching Hulk with a huge ass lightning and Hulk flying back. Cut to black. And the fight is over.

So since people watching the fight where assuming it would end with Thor KOed or dead, with Grandmaster helping Hulk with the teaser Thor had on his neck, and the fight ended with a terrible blast from Thor to Hulk... One can presume Hulk was defeated.

I for one can't picture Hulk walking away from a fight, so in my mind he had to be temporarily stunned at best.

And yeah, I hate how MCU has downplayed Hulk. He should get more respect. But 'tis the way it is.

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@supremegeneration said:

tbf Thor never ACTUALLY KO’d Hulk.

It wasn't showed onscreen, but they way it happened: Hulk was beating savagely Thor's face, he was about to black out, then he has a vision of Odin blablablah, next thing we see is Thor punching Hulk with a huge ass lightning and Hulk flying back. Cut to black. And the fight is over.

So since people watching the fight where assuming it would end with Thor KOed or dead, with Grandmaster helping Hulk with the teaser Thor had on his neck, and the fight ended with a terrible blast from Thor to Hulk... One can presume Hulk was defeated.

I for one can't picture Hulk walking away from a fight, so in my mind he had to be temporarily stunned at best.

And yeah, I hate how MCU has downplayed Hulk. He should get more respect. But 'tis the way it is.

Uh... Hulk got back up from two giant ass lightnings ready to keep fighting. Where exactly do you think he got KO'd? He was dazed sure, but he was not KO'd.

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@supremegeneration: so, how did the fight end?

I'll start from the ground n' pound.

  1. Hulk pounding on Thor's head, going ham like a mofo.
  2. Thor blasts him with lightning, it courses through Hulk's body.
  3. Hulk gets back up. It seems to take a long time, but a few of the scenes were also in slo mo.
  4. They run at each other, Thor hits Hulk in the head with a lightning punch
  5. Hulk gets back up again.
  6. They're gonna go for a third bout with lightning, Grandmaster KO's Thor.

Hulk was never KO'd.

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#87  Edited By Buckwheat

@supremegeneration said:
@buckwheat said:

@supremegeneration: so, how did the fight end?

I'll start from the ground n' pound.

  1. Hulk pounding on Thor's head, going ham like a mofo.
  2. Thor blasts him with lightning, it courses through Hulk's body.
  3. Hulk gets back up. It seems to take a long time, but a few of the scenes were also in slo mo.
  4. They run at each other, Thor hits Hulk in the head with a lightning punch
  5. Hulk gets back up again.
  6. They're gonna go for a third bout with lightning, Grandmaster KO's Thor.

Hulk was never KO'd.

Damn, I totally forgot and missconstructed that fight in my head.

I stand corrected about that. Hulk wasn't KOed by Thor.

This, along the fact that Hulk had stopped fighting when Hulkbuster sneak-hit him from the side, make Hulk look a bit better in the MCU.

I'm glad.

He still has no feats to put him above Hela.

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I voted Hela cos of her weapons & insane skills. In pure hand to hand, I give a slight majority to Hulk. I doubt Hela can dish out the punishment Thanos gave Hulk in IW as easily

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Hela because of swords. She probably has a slight strength and striking advantage, but can't put him down in h2h quick enough

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Hela for the majority because of her superior base stats. But I can see Hulk taking a few wins if she toys with him.

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Hela

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Does Hulk have anything over Hela besides jumping high and being larger?

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What the hell is this? This is one of the BIGGEST mismatches so far this year... How can Hulk even touch Hela after Thor: Ragnarok showed us that Hela could produce as many of those knife things as she wants? And plus, Hela could make them as big as she wanted, so that is so overpowered! The knife things seemed to hurt Surtur a lot, which means that the Hulk will probably get killed by her after getting shot in the head by one of those knife things. Therefore, Hela one-shots Hulk without even trying.

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Hela will beat Hulk even barehanded, let alone with weapons. Actually she will stomp Thor and Hulk at the same time.

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#95 nwname  Moderator

Hulk stomps. Hela is small wall level while Hulk is solidly room level pre-Russo. Those swords don't have the feats to cut Hulk.

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#96 takenstew22  Moderator

How is this not locked lol.

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@eredin12: Normal adults cant break stone walls with kicks or thick stone floors with few hits

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Hela.