MCU Hela vs DCEU Ares

@trust_this_786: he was killed by God killer who was created to kill god like being.

FYI : Ares was the one who had the upper hand in the whole battle.

Lifting more than 4000 ton of concrete-rock and crushing WW with Caterpillar tracks is always a garbage for someone like you.

As I said earlier, whether she did it with pure strength or magic is debatable as it was never made clear in the movie but just because you don't like a particular feat doesn't make it an outlier as long as she doesn't have any low-end showings in the movie that you haven't even seen and you'd have a very hard time convincing me otherwise.

@plotweapon16255: Non of Ares powers will help him here and Helas blade where powerful enough to one shot everything except Surtur. Also her fighting hundreds of skilled Asgardians is better than anything Ares did. She easily overpowered Thor who has better striking feats than anyone in Dceu even without the hammer

she wasn't the god killer. It was stated in the movie that only a god can kill another god.

where was Ares crushing 4000 tonnes of concrete rock i must've missed it.

Considering she had the ability to easily get out of those tracks doesn't prove much.

@foxerdes: except Hela did choke Thor multiple times with one hand and Thor can't do anything, the only thing that save Thor from being choked to death in their first encounter is him being flung outside the bifrost.

@thanosii: " Non of Ares powers will help him here "

-based on ?

Coz she doesn't have any feats to say that she can survive Ares TK who casually lifted more than 4000 ton of concrete-rock.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_mqF63Ufj_4

"Helas blade where powerful enough to one shot everything except Surtur."

-u do remember what happened to Diana's sword that was given by zeus who created humanity.

"Also her fighting hundreds of skilled Asgardians is better than anything Ares did."

- Diana could do better than her.

"She easily overpowered Thor who has better striking feats than anyone in Dceu even without the hammer"

- Diana who was a bullet timer was barely able to keep up with Ares I highly doubt hela would get close to him considering that he can fly.

@trust_this_786:

"she wasn't the god killer. It was stated in the movie that only a god can kill another god."

-the same guy told that she is god killer not the sword.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HXFIqUGpFdI

2:00

"where was Ares crushing 4000 tonnes of concrete rock i must've missed it."

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_mqF63Ufj_4

1:17

"Considering she had the ability to easily get out of those tracks doesn't prove much."

- only after she became God killer.

Ares slaughters

@trust_this_786:

"in the exact same video, he states that a god can kill another god (2:18)"

- so a God killer is also a God since she killed a God.

"even though i dont think that was 40k tonnes "pre god killer woman" as you like to call it dodged it with ease. Hela could easily do the same."

- it's above 4K ton.

Pre god killer mode wonder woman blitzed away before she got crushed and hela doesn't have much speed to escape.

"her arm popped out of the tracks "

- so , it only implies he didn't apply his TK in that region.

@trust_this_786:

"Yes. What does this prove exactly???"

- hela doesn't have feats to kill him.

"sure. Surter stabbed his sword into her and she survived that"

- proof ?

the movie just came out. There's a gif somewhere on the vine. Check gen. discussion

-hela is technically a god herself so yes she can kill him

I thought Mjolnir was forged 'in the heart of a dying star'?

Well, Hela killed a lot of nobodies in that realm, not the realm itself.

@trust_this_786: "the movie just came out. There's a gif somewhere on the vine. Check gen. discussion"

- unless you can prove that she dies.

End of discussion.

"hela is technically a god herself so yes she can kill him"

- MCU gods are pretty much half alien half god not legit gods like DCEU gods.

People forgot about the gate? Hela can TK her weapons, Ares isn't sending her swords back.

@plotweapon16255: OK Damme anyway Yeah Ares couldn't beat Thor key alone Hela who is leagues above lol

@tedirey: lol bot happening, Hela did everything Ares did only better in a bigger scale and beat tougher foes. Ares isn't beating Death

She has much better TK which is his only real hax

Yeah mismatch Ares stomps

And that matters because....?

And she didn't have any low end showings in the movie, at least not any that I noticed. She was consistently portrayed as well above Thor (even in his Warriors Madness thing).

@major_hellstorm: she was thor level physically just more skilled. Thor kept up with her unlike kurse

@major_hellstorm: yeah , "God can only kill God ".

@DammeFavour: I don't think so. When they fought Hela caught and stopped Thor's attacks casually.

But the rules didn't say that this battle can only be won by death, it says by any means. So it doesn't matter.

@major_hellstorm: lol no she didn't. They fought evenly till she cut him in the abdomen and he even had the upper hand initially same thing happened on the bridge, he had the upper hand slamming her into the bridge till she stabbed him in his shoulder

@destinyman75: Ares was toying with Diana who is way above Thor who usual a jobber and she way better skilled than him.

Hela has shown nothing better than what Diana can do who was unable to defeat Ares without his lightning.

Yes she did. You can even see it on the trailer when she caught his spear. Thor even admitted that even with Valkyrie he cannot defeat her.

Never said she rips Ares in half. But she doesn't need feats to show that she can break the hammer if she already did. If you claim that the feat was PIS then the BoP is on you.

@major_hellstorm: she caught the spear sure since the edges aren't sharp, then she outmaneuvered him with skill

What are you talking about? Punches from the Hulk can create shock-waves and Thor was beating him.

Just showing how asinine your logic is.

@foxerdes: Where did you get that number?

Also, I clarified someone's point, does not mean I agree with them (you did the exact same thing before).

@plotweapon16255: Ares had decent TK that's about it feats wise, ID say Thor could beat him too actually, but in a different way. Hela is above either, it took Surtur to beat Hela Area isn't on that level he was a huge disappointment

@tedirey: He showed some TK that Hela easily could duplicate Ares was a huge disappointment. It took a skyfather to take her down, Ares isn't that level he was taken by Diana who is below as well

@destinyman75: I highly doubt it Thor would be capable of doing it.

Anyway , did hela showed any feats to say she can survive Ares lightning , TP , TK ,etc.

Ares took lightning from zeus which only depowered him.

Where zeus was able create a island while dying and he created humanity , Amazon. Etc which is way better than MCU gods potential.

Debunked.

@foxerdes: Maybe try actually watching a movie befor you claim a feat is an outlier.

@foxerdes: Well then I agree with you. That calc is way off. I think the hammer's best feat is surviving beaing thrown from Asgard (IIRC in Thor 1) to Earth, but that's it.

@foxerdes: Actually not very impressive IMO. Hela was just a few meters away so it didn't have much momentum. Plus she is actually worthy to use the hammer so it wasn't unstoppable unlike when it is used against other opponents.