MCU: Giantman VS Kurse

Giantman can go big and small.

Kurse has no bombs.

Foght takes place in a city.

Giant-Man one shots.

Kurse

Nice debates going on here...

Kurse

I could honestly see Scott winning after EG.

Kurse wrecks him.

Lol why is that?

@keyfirstnaten:

He one shotted a Leviathan and killed Cull Obsidian by stepping on him.

Scott.

Scott stomps, literally.

Cull Obsidian has been stopped by Spider-Man with one arm, I don't see stepping on him as impressive because he has been overpowered by a-lot less than someone like Kurse in the past.

@keyfirstnaten: Using Spider-Man surprising him like that out of nowhere is not representative of his actual level, not even close. Cull was tearing apart the Hulkbuster piece by piece.

Cull intended to kill Iron-Man, it is an actual representation of his strength.

Hulk jumped out of Giant Mans hand.

I don’t see why Giant Man doesn’t just repeatedly stomp on Kurse.

At the very least Giant Man can win by incap by holding Kurse down.

Kurse is a lot more durable than Cull. Kirse literally didnt care having a sword ammed through him.

Giantman was also holding back levithans.

Lol Kurse gets stomped on then lifts the big foot off him and proceeds to wreck..Kurse is way stronger

Kurse

Kurse wins.

Okay then, so is him tearing down the Hulkbuster and overpowering Iron Man's best armor.

Bleeding Edge is Iron-Man's best armor, not Hulkbuster, as if stating your rebuttal that way would make your argument better: Like, I know what you're doing.

Bruh what...

Yes, BE is Iron Man's best armor, and Cull overpowered it. He also teared down the Hulkbuster, that's what I said.

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@hellfireunit: mjolnir is extremely overrated at this point. Hela also stopped mjolnir and crushed the damn thing. Maybe it’s not the character that are super freaking strong, and maybe it’s that the hammer just isn’t some unstoppable force? Think bout that

@pkety: The hammer made an explosion that flattened a part of a forest and took abdolutely no damage from the blast. It also instantly overpowered a huge dragon that could fly through stone. Breaking or stopping mjolnir is an insane feat.

Hard to tell because we never saw Kurses limit, but from what we saw he was impervious to everything. Mjolnir just bounced off him, if we go off what we have Kurse should win.

This is tough. Kurse is on a whole different level than cull. I’m leaning towards Kurse because he could punch the crap out of Giant man’s ankles and catch His foot if he tries to step on him

Also don’t compare Kurse and Cull totally different levels

@newyorkjetsarecool: If Kurse catches Scott's foot, the Avenger could go smaller to get free.

Antman could also in theory go really snall, get into Kurse and become a giant inside his body.

@newyorkjetsarecool:

Cull wrecks Kurse, so you're right about that.

Giantman kicks a field goal with him.

@hellfireunit: statements don’t matter tho cause by that assumption no one in the mcu can kill ares cause “only a god can kill a god” and Odin said they weren’t gods

NLF

Cull was overpowered by Spiderman in both IW and EG.

Kurse was beating the living sh*t out of Thor! He was owning him with just pimp slaps and no sold being stabbed thru the chest. He's out of Giantman's league.

@ashketchum93:

Being overpowered is a struggle for strength control, Cull was never "overpowered" by spiderman but he is 2 - 0 against nanosuit iron man.

Moreover Thor is puny in size, so slapping him across a battle field is no where near equivalent to catching the weight of scott, just BTW.

@hellfireunit: no limits fallacy is extremely relevant considering y’all base his power mainly off his feat of smacking mjolnir

@iaminevitable: Haha very funny

@iaminevitable: Spiderman caught Cull's hammer midswing and did so effortlessly. That's Cull putting his strength behind an attack and it already having momentum. It shouldn't be negated with no effort if you're THAT strong. It's like Hulk punching you full force and you stop his punch MIDSWING by just grabbing his fist. If you grab someone's arm and pull them back, if they are stronger than you, they will resist. I couldn't pull down Hafthor Bjornson by pulling his arm. And Spidey couldn't possibly bring down Hulk or Thor like that because his strength isn't even comparable to theirs. But he yanked Cull back EASILY.

And smacking ironman from behind in EG is not a feat. An outrider could smack someone from behind.

Point is his strength feats are crap. His durability has few feats. His speed is HORRID, being outmaneuvered by a noob Bruce operating a bulky Hulkbuster. He manages to clamp around IM's armor once and all of a sudden he's somehow the highest tier character? Never mind that Spiderman and Antman killed him. Never mind that Korg and Drax were beating the shit out of him. Never mind that Spiderman effortlessly overpowered a hammer swing. Never mind that untrained Bruce in a Hulkbuster suit he couldn't even run on an open field in without tripping killed him in a 1v1 one handed. Because Cull put a clamp around IM that one time so nothing else matters, right? Cull in the MCU had trash feats. Kurse in the MCU was murderstomping Thor and swatted Mjolnir away like it was nothing. I never said pimp slapping Thor across the battlefield was the feat for Kurse. I said absolutely DOMINATING THOR in a 1v1 was the feat. NO ONE has that good a showing against base Thor in the ENTIRE MCU. It makes even Ragnarok Hulk look like a little b*tch! They aren't even in neighboring tiers. There's THAT big a gap between them.

@eternaldarkfury said:

this and do many 360's

@ashketchum93: Kurse is enhanced by an infinity stone, him smacking Thors hammer is not a strength feat or all that amazing. Peter pulled Cull back fRoM bEhInD in EG. Cull died in infinity war from being outsmarted by BRUCE BANNER. Kurse died from being outsmarted in dark world by Loki, what's your point? Giant man kicks a field goal with him.

If culls speed is horrid, what the hell is kurses? lol and what the hell are you talking about he was "outmaneuvered" by a noob hulkbuster? Do you mean for that grand 2 seconds Bruce had the advantage in the entire fight before being put on his ass again? Cull DOMINATED Ironman and held his own against the duo. Watch it again. Cull kills Kurse with speed and his multi-tool. It's not a weight-lifting contest.

@iaminevitable: "Peter pulled Cull back fRoM bEhInD in EG." Your point? Could you pull Hafthor Bjornson to the ground "fRoM bEhInD" or would his ridiculously superior strength make that impossible because of sensory afferents activating gamma motor neurons to innervate the fibers in his muscle spindle to automatically resist stretch force? The fact that Peter can even do that means Cull is in Spiderman's strength league. As is further illustrated by the casually stopped hammer strike.

"Giant man kicks a field goal with him." You have no proof that even does anything to him or that he even COULD but ok. Sure.

"If culls speed is horrid, what the hell is kurses?" He casually pimp slaps Thor flying at him FULL SPEED. FROM BEHIND. He turns and smacks a full speed flying Thor out of the air CASUALLY. And if you don't want to call backhanding a speeding Mjolnir a strength feat, it's still a better reaction feat than any we see from Cull. Kurse also easily blocks and dodges Thor in their 1v1 as well.

"Cull DOMINATED Ironman" He hit him twice in that BRIEF exchange, and Iron Man has nowhere NEAR Kurse's durability. But by that logic, Cull>>>>Thanos. Just by using your exact same argument here.

"...and held his own against the duo." Oh yeah? He was holding his own against Iron Man and Spiderman? That's cute. Kurse was MURDERING 2 Asgardian gods going all out. Cull was getting slammed by taxis and taken down by that far weaker duo. And Cull got FLOORED by BP. Loki and Thor couldn't even come CLOSE to knocking Kurse on his ass

Kurse is undeniably far above base Thor. There is canonical proof of this in the MCU. So for you to be making this argument, you'd be saying MCU Cull is FAR FAR above base Thor. The guy whose hammer was casually caught midair by Spiderman is FAR FAR above base Thor?