@amcu: “If so why doesn't it give credence to her being able to beat Cull Obsidian and Ebony Maw?”
Feats for one thing, and quotes from the directors saying that the Black Order is as powerful or more than Gamora and Nebula. Seeing as how one of those is a large brute and the other had strong TK, it’d be foolish to say she can beat those two because of that one quote. Corvus and Proxima are different cases.
“It seems like way too vague of a statement to say that it means she is supposed to be better than Corvus”
For what seems like the 30th time, is that the only piece of evidence I’m using to say that she could beat him?
“In universe is only so good without clear statements and or implication. At the end of the day we don't know who would be written to win in universe.”
How much clearer could you get? He trained all of his children to be killers, he thought her out of all of them would rule in his place, and she’s been trained her entire life to be a living weapon. The only difference between her, a random Dora Milaje, and some fodder Wakanda soldiers (that somebody said have better feats than her) is her lack of feats. Which is a clear example of “so because we haven’t seen character A do this type of feat, that means they can’t”, which is an extremely limited way to view any of these characters.
“Do you really want to take the fact that she's Thanos's favorite(which is clearly not purely representative of combat ability or she'd be better than Maw and Cull)as proving she is superior to someone with better feats than her?”
Are you really going to ignore every over point and focus on just that one, which only makes sense if looked at WITH the other points I brought up? Jesus Christ, you people on this site are too brainwashed too look at “muh feats”.
The directors of the movie used Gamora and Nebula as a benchmark for how strong the Black Order are. They claimed that they’re all as powerful or more powerful than those two, which means that Gamora and Nebula are equal to the weakest members of the Black Order. Stay with me now, who are those weakest members? Corvus and Proxima.
Why would Gamora be Thanos’s favorite? Do you think like Buildhare does and want to hilariously assume it’s because of her stubborn attitude and determination, the same traits Nebula has shown yet was called a “waste of parts”? Thanos has been going around the universe for a millennia and conquering planets, and from those planets he takes orphans and trains them to be killers. Out of all of those he trained to be killers, Gamora is somehow his favorite and one he believed would take over for him.
The statement only works if you look at all evidence presented, not when you omit certain things and make assumptions to fill in the blanks. Why does her being Thanos’s favorite matter? Because we know she’s about equal to Corvus. Does her being his favorite mean she can beat Maw or Cull? No because from both feats and directorial intent the latter two are more powerful than her. Why would her being Thanos’ favorite even matter? Because he’s a mad Titan who’s extremely well trained, unbeatable in combat, and has turned numerous orphans into killers. If he takes a certain liking to one of those he trained over the others, you can’t simply ignore that “yeah but feats”.
“I would understand the statement of her being the deadliest woman in the galaxy a little more(Though I still disagree).But this doesn't work IMO.”
It does work. You, like everyone else in this thread, just can’t wrap your heads around a concept that isn’t “feats > anything”. That’s why this had to be explained so many times and why Buildhare was so triggered that he went and made a bait thread.
“Let's make a hypothetical. Lets say that I'm trying to train the Avengers. If Captain America is my favorite Avenger(Which he is)and I decided that I want him to be the leader of the Avengers(Which I would)does that suddenly mean he can beat Iron Man? No.”
Not only is this a bad hypothetical, it’s again ignoring my entire argument to focus on one part of it. And the part you’re focusing on makes no sense without looking at the whole.
1) Thanos didn’t decide Gamora was his favorite from the get-go. Only after he had been training her dodge realize he liked her more than Maw, Cull, Proxima, Corvus, and Nebula. He wasn’t her favorite from there beginning, like Steve is in your example.
2) Thanos didn’t want to train her to specifically take over for him, like your example is saying. He again realized after training her that he believed she would sit on his throne one day. Her training consisted of her becoming a killer and “he most dangerous woman I the galaxy”, not training to one day become a ruler.
3) The directors flat out tell us that Gamora and Nebula are not the most powerful of Thanos’ children, that some of them are more powerful than them. They specifically mention that some ARE as powerful as those two, however, which means being Thanos’ favorite and beating someone who you’re equal to isn’t out of the ballpark. Gamora and Nebula are practically equals, yet we know Gamora never once lost to her sister during their training growing up.
My claim was that because she is his favorite she can beat him, taking into consideration that she’s “as powerful” as Corvus and that hell by your own admission she could accomplish the same feats he did. Nowhere in this thread have I made the claim “she can beat any of his children because he likes her more than them”. Point out where I said those words verbatim. If you can’t, you better stop acting as if I did.
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