MCU: Female heroes vs their male counterparts (low tiers)

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Poll MCU: Female heroes vs their male counterparts (low tiers) (69 votes)

Women 54%
Men 41%
Too close to call/undecided 6%

Everybody has their composite gear from across every film (minus any stones). This includes borrowed or one-time weapons (alien or human). Given this, with a starting distance of 5 feet, who wins in a fight to the death? Nobody can “solo.”

Women:

- Black Widow

- Wasp

- Sif

- Gamora

Men:

- Hawkeye

- Antman

- Heimdall

- Drax

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#1  Edited By ZR2011

NOTICE: ANTMAN CANNOT GO BIG

Ignore the stray “F”

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The woman in my opinion.

Black Widow and Hawkeye is about even.

Wasp and Antman might seem even at first since Antman can turn giant, but Wasp most likely know the weakness in the suit and is more skill and being giant won't help much when she turn small.

Sif and Heimdall I guess even except Heimdall as the bifrost so I guess advantage to him.

Gamora is more skill than Drax and a smarter fighter so I go with her.

I say the woman overall has an advantage, I say the only major advantage is Heimdall having the ability to potentially bfr one of his opponent, but he never shown to use it that way.

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#3 Eri_Joni  Online

Females cause of the distance and skill.

Widow beats Clint

Wasp beats Ant-man

Sif probably loses to Heimdall

Gamora beats Drax

Then Heimdall gets stomped.

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Ant man vs Wasp is all that matters and ant man takes it she has nothing on giant man. Ant man solos he is arguably a high tier after endgame.

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#5  Edited By Eri_Joni  Online

@money_brings_happiness: But will he turn big this close to his teammates,even if he does it far away Wasp probably knows the weakness of the suit.And the other 3 females all have piercing weapons to hit his feet.

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@eri123: Ant man no sold hundreds of attacks at the end of endgame and while wasp might know a weakness one flick kills the whole team.

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#7 Eri_Joni  Online

@money_brings_happiness: I think team 1 swords will still hurt him.He can't grow,because he will end up killing his teammates.

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I would say

Widow>> Hawkeye

Ant man>Wasp

Sif>>Heimdall

Gamora<\=Drax

Comes down to Widow and Sif vs Drax and Antman. Widow could electrocute Antman cause he can’t go giant and Sif beats Drax or Antman gets to Widow and double teams Sif

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Hard to say.

Widow > Hawkeye at close range

Gamora > Drax thanks to sword

Sif vs Heimdall can go either way

Wasp vs Ant-Man depends if he can go giant in this fight (if he can, he stomps, if not, Wasp probably wins).

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#10  Edited By Atomickitten15

I'd say that Hawkeye is very disadvantaged by the 5 feet starting distance. Put them further away and he handily takes it. From what we saw of the friendly scuffle in Endgame, both are relatively matched in close quarters but in a more serious fight either one could have won.

Ant-Man being able to go both small and big makes him a lot more versatile so I'd wager that it makes up for the skill gap.

Heimdall vs Sif is very hard to quantify. Neither has very many feats but I'd like to lean towards Heimdall given his very key role and the power of the bifrost (Literally planet level if he just leaves it open).

Drax actually get's stomped here. Gamora is just far too fast and skilled. Not to mention she also has access to that massive cannon from GOTG 2.

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Heimdall should be able to BFR Sif at the very least. I think Heimdall was supposed to be somewhere around Iron Man level though, given that they were allegedly supposed to fight instead of the Cap vs Cap that we got.

Antman can take Wasp, especially if he goes giant.

Black Widow and Hawkeye have always been pretty neck and neck in my books, though Natasha can probably edge it out.

Gamora and Drax are probably around the same level as well. I think all of the Guardians are around the same level except Rocket.

Pretty inconsequential wins for some of the ladies because Heimdall and Scott are still out of their leagues.

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@atomickitten15: You realize that Hawkeye tripped her (something that requires no skill) and Natasha (on her back) flipped him on the ground? Couple that with the fact that after being chased and slapped by the hulk, she fought and disarmed him twice during their fight in the Avengers while Hawkeye was blood lusted. Additionally, the directors said she was a better fighter, which is why he brought out explosive arrows. Even more proof would be that Hawkeye has one feat with his sword against some thug while Widow has taken out Corvus, disarmed and pressed Proxima, and fought Chitauri with just her hands. In CQC Nat>>>Clint

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#13  Edited By blackisyto
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Why doesn't Ant-man solo?

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Each woman counterpart is superior

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#17 krisbishop  Moderator

I think a lot of people are missing that OP stated Ant-Man is not allowed to go Giant.

In that case Team Women edge it out.

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#18  Edited By anthp2000  Moderator
@angeljax said:

Each woman counterpart is superior

This.

  1. Widow's confirmed by the Russo brothers and an on-screen fight in A1 to be better than Clint at 5 ft.
  2. The MSVD confirms Sif's canonical superiority to Heimdall.
  3. Wasp is just a more skilled and competent version of Ant-Man.
  4. Gamora is miles ahead of Drax in combat ability and has a far better weapon.
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Wasp is MVP

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#20  Edited By Thoromdil

Men win.

Hawkeye has better accuracy and reflexes when it comes to range shots. He shoots Black Widow before she can either take her own shot or close the distance. In an arena standoff, with nothing to hide behind from his first shot she cant repeat her hellicarrier fight.

Drax already beat Gamora. He actually fodderized her. Gamora may have a bit of a skill advantage but Drax is A LOT stronger and tougher than her.

Antman has by far better feats, though this fight is about even I guess.

Heimdall one shots Sif. Sif has no feats besides killing like two ice giants and failing to kill destroyer.

Heimdall is so powerful even Odin supposedly could fear him, and Loki felt like prepping with Cascet before he wanted to face him. Also he has plenty of good feats, cutting through Hela's zombies like grass and taking down a dark elf ship and all.

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@zr2011:Very good points so i'll concur. But at further ranges Clint should still take it.

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Widow beats Hawkeye as she always has.

Wasp is better with a more advanced suit than Antman.

Sif has shown better feats than Heimdall.

Gamora is vastly more skilled than Drax, his only advantage is durability, which is negated by her sword.

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#23  Edited By sacoc17752
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Black Widow vs Hawkeye? Nat probably wins this due to the extremely close starting distance. She can close the gap and take him down in H2H.

Wasp vs Ant-Man? Wasp, definitely. She is consistently shown as far more skilled than Scott.

Sif vs Heimdall? Heimdall has fewer combat feats, so I'm leaning towards Sif.

Gamora vs Drax? This is the only one where the dude is more likely to win. Whilst Gamora definitely seems more skilled, Drax has better physicals, no doubt. I'm not sure who wins this one TBH.

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could go either way if Scott can turn into Giantman

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Girls win every round

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Didn’t drax already beat gamora? I heimdall beats Sif by hype. Feats can go either way.

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Ladies steamroll, they’re all better than their counterpart.

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The women kinda stomp

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I love Black Widow from Marvel....

I always try to be look like her.

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Girls get it done

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@atomickitten15: no it has been stated by the Russo brothers that widow is a better fighter than Hawkeye so in a close quarters match she was always going to win

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Widow beats hawkeye

Antman stomps wasp, but with the restrictions loses.

Heimdall stomps Sif

Drax stomps Gamora.

Then you have Heimdall and Drax versus Wasp and Widow. The Males stomp.

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Heimdall and drax can carry plus Hawkeye has extermly powerful arrows so that will also help

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#42  Edited By LucasCosta

Black Widow vs Hawkeye = Black Widow

Wasp vs Ant-Man = Wasp

Sif vs Heimdall = Heimdall

Gamora vs Drax = Gamora (pretty close)

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@angeljax said:

Each woman counterpart is superior

This.

  1. Widow's confirmed by the Russo brothers and an on-screen fight in A1 to be better than Clint at 5 ft.
  2. The MSVD confirms Sif's canonical superiority to Heimdall.
  3. Wasp is just a more skilled and competent version of Ant-Man.
  4. Gamora is miles ahead of Drax in combat ability and has a far better weapon.

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Male team stomps.

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The Females probably , 3-1 win. Only male winning is the GigaChad Heimdal

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A woman can't beat a man so .....