Who takes it?
H2H sam is screwed but with him flying around her only hope is guns which isnt too unlikely she is an excellent marksman
Nah Sam stomps Nat in H2H as well. He’s too agile for her in combat.
Plus he gave Batroc an even better fight. He was basically even with him. He got tagged a couple of times though due to talking to Sharon mid-fight.
Overall he was tagging Batroc multiple times, blocking his strikes in H2H and dodging his blows skillfully.
@frozen: she put up wonderful fights against people out of her league (mainly bc they're super soldiers and she's a peak human) and honestly after seeing him fight super soldiers and getting beat, I just don't see him being able to deal with her agility, deadly aim and her tech. also 30 feet isn't far enough for him to be able to do anything with the wings.
Her agility? Sam is way more agile than Nat. He’s literally one of the most nimble/acrobatic fighters in the MCU now and has Batroc level agility in combat.
However I agree her Widow bite might be a problem though. I just think he’s much too quick and agile to get with it. Unless he’s caught off guard or talking to Sharon in the middle of the fight.
idk I just don’t see how she wins this, let alone tag him in combat.
@frozen: she put up wonderful fights against people out of her league (mainly bc they're super soldiers and she's a peak human) and honestly after seeing him fight super soldiers and getting beat, I just don't see him being able to deal with her agility, deadly aim and her tech. also 30 feet isn't far enough for him to be able to do anything with the wings.
Her agility? Sam is way more agile than Nat. He’s literally one of the most nimble/acrobatic fighters in the MCU now and has Batroc level agility in combat.
However I agree her Widow bite might be a problem though. I just think he’s much too quick and agile to get with it. Unless he’s caught off guard or talking to Sharon in the middle of the fight.
idk I just don’t see how she wins this, let alone tags him in combat.
I still think Black Widow is more agile, she hasn't gotten alot of screentime in a while but I don't we should just assume that he's more agile than one of the top spies on earth and she has so much experience.
@frozen: she put up wonderful fights against people out of her league (mainly bc they're super soldiers and she's a peak human) and honestly after seeing him fight super soldiers and getting beat, I just don't see him being able to deal with her agility, deadly aim and her tech. also 30 feet isn't far enough for him to be able to do anything with the wings.
Her agility? Sam is way more agile than Nat. He’s literally one of the most nimble/acrobatic fighters in the MCU now and has Batroc level agility in combat.
However I agree her Widow bite might be a problem though. I just think he’s much too quick and agile to get with it. Unless he’s caught off guard or talking to Sharon in the middle of the fight.
idk I just don’t see how she wins this, let alone tags him in combat.
I still think Black Widow is more agile, she hasn't gotten alot of screentime in a while but I don't we should just assume that he's more agile than one of the top spies on earth and she has so much experience.
Nah Sam has much better acrobatics in combat. Widow just doesn’t fight like Sam or Batroc in significant fights. They’re literally doing crazy flip combinations to dodge attacks and using it to set up their kicks.
Sam is just a much more agile fighter. He relies on it a lot.
She does have a lot of experience though. Wdym she didn’t have screen time? She had over a decade of screen time. She literally had an entire arc and had an impactful death in Endgame. Sam had less than her, he‘s just starting up.
@frozen: she put up wonderful fights against people out of her league (mainly bc they're super soldiers and she's a peak human) and honestly after seeing him fight super soldiers and getting beat, I just don't see him being able to deal with her agility, deadly aim and her tech. also 30 feet isn't far enough for him to be able to do anything with the wings.
Her agility? Sam is way more agile than Nat. He’s literally one of the most nimble/acrobatic fighters in the MCU now and has Batroc level agility in combat.
However I agree her Widow bite might be a problem though. I just think he’s much too quick and agile to get with it. Unless he’s caught off guard or talking to Sharon in the middle of the fight.
idk I just don’t see how she wins this, let alone tags him in combat.
I still think Black Widow is more agile, she hasn't gotten alot of screentime in a while but I don't we should just assume that he's more agile than one of the top spies on earth and she has so much experience.
Nah Sam has much better acrobatics in combat. Widow just doesn’t fight like Sam or Batroc in significant fights. They’re literally doing crazy flip combinations to dodge attacks and using it to set up their kicks.
Sam is just a much more agile fighter. He relies on it a lot.
She does have a lot of experience though. Wdym she didn’t have screen time? She had over a decade of screen time. She literally had an entire arc and had an impactful death in Endgame. Sam had less than her, he‘s just starting up.
Black Widow and Hawkeye got less feat time than any other avenger.
@frozen: she put up wonderful fights against people out of her league (mainly bc they're super soldiers and she's a peak human) and honestly after seeing him fight super soldiers and getting beat, I just don't see him being able to deal with her agility, deadly aim and her tech. also 30 feet isn't far enough for him to be able to do anything with the wings.
Her agility? Sam is way more agile than Nat. He’s literally one of the most nimble/acrobatic fighters in the MCU now and has Batroc level agility in combat.
However I agree her Widow bite might be a problem though. I just think he’s much too quick and agile to get with it. Unless he’s caught off guard or talking to Sharon in the middle of the fight.
idk I just don’t see how she wins this, let alone tags him in combat.
I still think Black Widow is more agile, she hasn't gotten alot of screentime in a while but I don't we should just assume that he's more agile than one of the top spies on earth and she has so much experience.
Nah Sam has much better acrobatics in combat. Widow just doesn’t fight like Sam or Batroc in significant fights. They’re literally doing crazy flip combinations to dodge attacks and using it to set up their kicks.
Sam is just a much more agile fighter. He relies on it a lot.
She does have a lot of experience though. Wdym she didn’t have screen time? She had over a decade of screen time. She literally had an entire arc and had an impactful death in Endgame. Sam had less than her, he‘s just starting up.
Black Widow and Hawkeye got less feat time than any other avenger.
Widow had 10+(over a decade) years of movies and literally had one of the most impactful deaths in Endgame. They made her die for a reason.
@frozen: she put up wonderful fights against people out of her league (mainly bc they're super soldiers and she's a peak human) and honestly after seeing him fight super soldiers and getting beat, I just don't see him being able to deal with her agility, deadly aim and her tech. also 30 feet isn't far enough for him to be able to do anything with the wings.
Her agility? Sam is way more agile than Nat. He’s literally one of the most nimble/acrobatic fighters in the MCU now and has Batroc level agility in combat.
However I agree her Widow bite might be a problem though. I just think he’s much too quick and agile to get with it. Unless he’s caught off guard or talking to Sharon in the middle of the fight.
idk I just don’t see how she wins this, let alone tags him in combat.
I still think Black Widow is more agile, she hasn't gotten alot of screentime in a while but I don't we should just assume that he's more agile than one of the top spies on earth and she has so much experience.
Nah Sam has much better acrobatics in combat. Widow just doesn’t fight like Sam or Batroc in significant fights. They’re literally doing crazy flip combinations to dodge attacks and using it to set up their kicks.
Sam is just a much more agile fighter. He relies on it a lot.
She does have a lot of experience though. Wdym she didn’t have screen time? She had over a decade of screen time. She literally had an entire arc and had an impactful death in Endgame. Sam had less than her, he‘s just starting up.
Black Widow and Hawkeye got less feat time than any other avenger.
Widow had 10+(over a decade) years of movies and literally had one of the most impactful deaths in Endgame. They made her die for a reason.
All of those years and no impressive feats. I guess staggering Black Panther was an impressive feat.
@frozen: she put up wonderful fights against people out of her league (mainly bc they're super soldiers and she's a peak human) and honestly after seeing him fight super soldiers and getting beat, I just don't see him being able to deal with her agility, deadly aim and her tech. also 30 feet isn't far enough for him to be able to do anything with the wings.
Her agility? Sam is way more agile than Nat. He’s literally one of the most nimble/acrobatic fighters in the MCU now and has Batroc level agility in combat.
However I agree her Widow bite might be a problem though. I just think he’s much too quick and agile to get with it. Unless he’s caught off guard or talking to Sharon in the middle of the fight.
idk I just don’t see how she wins this, let alone tags him in combat.
I still think Black Widow is more agile, she hasn't gotten alot of screentime in a while but I don't we should just assume that he's more agile than one of the top spies on earth and she has so much experience.
Nah Sam has much better acrobatics in combat. Widow just doesn’t fight like Sam or Batroc in significant fights. They’re literally doing crazy flip combinations to dodge attacks and using it to set up their kicks.
Sam is just a much more agile fighter. He relies on it a lot.
She does have a lot of experience though. Wdym she didn’t have screen time? She had over a decade of screen time. She literally had an entire arc and had an impactful death in Endgame. Sam had less than her, he‘s just starting up.
Black Widow and Hawkeye got less feat time than any other avenger.
Widow had 10+(over a decade) years of movies and literally had one of the most impactful deaths in Endgame. They made her die for a reason.
All of those years and no impressive feats. I guess staggering Black Panther was an impressive feat.
That’s what I’m saying...and for some reason you think she’s above Falcon in H2H/Agility.
Anyways I guess the taser is a pretty useful weapon. T’Challa was caught of guard though.
@frozen: she put up wonderful fights against people out of her league (mainly bc they're super soldiers and she's a peak human) and honestly after seeing him fight super soldiers and getting beat, I just don't see him being able to deal with her agility, deadly aim and her tech. also 30 feet isn't far enough for him to be able to do anything with the wings.
Her agility? Sam is way more agile than Nat. He’s literally one of the most nimble/acrobatic fighters in the MCU now and has Batroc level agility in combat.
However I agree her Widow bite might be a problem though. I just think he’s much too quick and agile to get with it. Unless he’s caught off guard or talking to Sharon in the middle of the fight.
idk I just don’t see how she wins this, let alone tags him in combat.
I still think Black Widow is more agile, she hasn't gotten alot of screentime in a while but I don't we should just assume that he's more agile than one of the top spies on earth and she has so much experience.
Nah Sam has much better acrobatics in combat. Widow just doesn’t fight like Sam or Batroc in significant fights. They’re literally doing crazy flip combinations to dodge attacks and using it to set up their kicks.
Sam is just a much more agile fighter. He relies on it a lot.
She does have a lot of experience though. Wdym she didn’t have screen time? She had over a decade of screen time. She literally had an entire arc and had an impactful death in Endgame. Sam had less than her, he‘s just starting up.
Black Widow and Hawkeye got less feat time than any other avenger.
Widow had 10+(over a decade) years of movies and literally had one of the most impactful deaths in Endgame. They made her die for a reason.
All of those years and no impressive feats. I guess staggering Black Panther was an impressive feat.
That’s what I’m saying...and for some reason you think she’s above Falcon in H2H/Agility.
Anyways I guess the taser is a pretty useful weapon. T’Challa was caught of guard though.
I do think she's below Falcon in h2h combat or agility, I just think she has so much skill we haven't seen yet. I don't think we should just put Falcon above her in h2h combat just because he got a few new feats in FATWS, she's one of best spies on earth, she has tons of experience, she's clearly supposed to be near Caps level in h2h combat. She's had years of experience and learned every fighting style on earth and now Falcon gets a few new feats and he's above her in h2h combat? I don't think he is above her.
@frozen: she put up wonderful fights against people out of her league (mainly bc they're super soldiers and she's a peak human) and honestly after seeing him fight super soldiers and getting beat, I just don't see him being able to deal with her agility, deadly aim and her tech. also 30 feet isn't far enough for him to be able to do anything with the wings.
Her agility? Sam is way more agile than Nat. He’s literally one of the most nimble/acrobatic fighters in the MCU now and has Batroc level agility in combat.
However I agree her Widow bite might be a problem though. I just think he’s much too quick and agile to get with it. Unless he’s caught off guard or talking to Sharon in the middle of the fight.
idk I just don’t see how she wins this, let alone tags him in combat.
I still think Black Widow is more agile, she hasn't gotten alot of screentime in a while but I don't we should just assume that he's more agile than one of the top spies on earth and she has so much experience.
Nah Sam has much better acrobatics in combat. Widow just doesn’t fight like Sam or Batroc in significant fights. They’re literally doing crazy flip combinations to dodge attacks and using it to set up their kicks.
Sam is just a much more agile fighter. He relies on it a lot.
She does have a lot of experience though. Wdym she didn’t have screen time? She had over a decade of screen time. She literally had an entire arc and had an impactful death in Endgame. Sam had less than her, he‘s just starting up.
Black Widow and Hawkeye got less feat time than any other avenger.
Widow had 10+(over a decade) years of movies and literally had one of the most impactful deaths in Endgame. They made her die for a reason.
All of those years and no impressive feats. I guess staggering Black Panther was an impressive feat.
That’s what I’m saying...and for some reason you think she’s above Falcon in H2H/Agility.
Anyways I guess the taser is a pretty useful weapon. T’Challa was caught of guard though.
I do think she's below Falcon in h2h combat or agility, I just think she has so much skill we haven't seen yet. I don't think we should just put Falcon above her in h2h combat just because he got a few new feats in FATWS, she's one of best spies on earth, she has tons of experience, she's clearly supposed to be near Caps level in h2h combat. She's had years of experience and learned every fighting style on earth and now Falcon gets a few new feats and he's above her in h2h combat? I don't think he is above her.
She’s been in the movies for over a decade. She’s had a decade to prove herself and she died in Endgame.
Falcon has also had years of experience. He‘s been in the military plus he didn’t just get a “few” new feats. He got crazy new big feats. Plus he’s gonna get even better than he is now because I heard they are making a Captain America 4.
@frozen: she put up wonderful fights against people out of her league (mainly bc they're super soldiers and she's a peak human) and honestly after seeing him fight super soldiers and getting beat, I just don't see him being able to deal with her agility, deadly aim and her tech. also 30 feet isn't far enough for him to be able to do anything with the wings.
Her agility? Sam is way more agile than Nat. He’s literally one of the most nimble/acrobatic fighters in the MCU now and has Batroc level agility in combat.
However I agree her Widow bite might be a problem though. I just think he’s much too quick and agile to get with it. Unless he’s caught off guard or talking to Sharon in the middle of the fight.
idk I just don’t see how she wins this, let alone tags him in combat.
I still think Black Widow is more agile, she hasn't gotten alot of screentime in a while but I don't we should just assume that he's more agile than one of the top spies on earth and she has so much experience.
Nah Sam has much better acrobatics in combat. Widow just doesn’t fight like Sam or Batroc in significant fights. They’re literally doing crazy flip combinations to dodge attacks and using it to set up their kicks.
Sam is just a much more agile fighter. He relies on it a lot.
She does have a lot of experience though. Wdym she didn’t have screen time? She had over a decade of screen time. She literally had an entire arc and had an impactful death in Endgame. Sam had less than her, he‘s just starting up.
Black Widow and Hawkeye got less feat time than any other avenger.
Widow had 10+(over a decade) years of movies and literally had one of the most impactful deaths in Endgame. They made her die for a reason.
All of those years and no impressive feats. I guess staggering Black Panther was an impressive feat.
That’s what I’m saying...and for some reason you think she’s above Falcon in H2H/Agility.
Anyways I guess the taser is a pretty useful weapon. T’Challa was caught of guard though.
I do think she's below Falcon in h2h combat or agility, I just think she has so much skill we haven't seen yet. I don't think we should just put Falcon above her in h2h combat just because he got a few new feats in FATWS, she's one of best spies on earth, she has tons of experience, she's clearly supposed to be near Caps level in h2h combat. She's had years of experience and learned every fighting style on earth and now Falcon gets a few new feats and he's above her in h2h combat? I don't think he is above her.
She’s been in the movies for over a decade. She’s had a decade to prove herself and she died in Endgame.
Falcon has also had years of experience. He‘s been in the military plus he didn’t just get a “few” new feats. He got crazy new big feats. Plus he’s gonna get even better than he is now because I heard they are making a Captain America 4.
Cap, Black Panther, Falcon and others have already gotten full movies and tv series's about them, Black Widow is just now getting a movie about her and she had less scenes than characters like Thor, Hulk, Iron man, Cap. We haven't seen the best of her yet and we haven't seen the best of Hawkeye or Wanda either.
@frozen: she put up wonderful fights against people out of her league (mainly bc they're super soldiers and she's a peak human) and honestly after seeing him fight super soldiers and getting beat, I just don't see him being able to deal with her agility, deadly aim and her tech. also 30 feet isn't far enough for him to be able to do anything with the wings.
Her agility? Sam is way more agile than Nat. He’s literally one of the most nimble/acrobatic fighters in the MCU now and has Batroc level agility in combat.
However I agree her Widow bite might be a problem though. I just think he’s much too quick and agile to get with it. Unless he’s caught off guard or talking to Sharon in the middle of the fight.
idk I just don’t see how she wins this, let alone tags him in combat.
I still think Black Widow is more agile, she hasn't gotten alot of screentime in a while but I don't we should just assume that he's more agile than one of the top spies on earth and she has so much experience.
Nah Sam has much better acrobatics in combat. Widow just doesn’t fight like Sam or Batroc in significant fights. They’re literally doing crazy flip combinations to dodge attacks and using it to set up their kicks.
Sam is just a much more agile fighter. He relies on it a lot.
She does have a lot of experience though. Wdym she didn’t have screen time? She had over a decade of screen time. She literally had an entire arc and had an impactful death in Endgame. Sam had less than her, he‘s just starting up.
Black Widow and Hawkeye got less feat time than any other avenger.
Widow had 10+(over a decade) years of movies and literally had one of the most impactful deaths in Endgame. They made her die for a reason.
All of those years and no impressive feats. I guess staggering Black Panther was an impressive feat.
That’s what I’m saying...and for some reason you think she’s above Falcon in H2H/Agility.
Anyways I guess the taser is a pretty useful weapon. T’Challa was caught of guard though.
I do think she's below Falcon in h2h combat or agility, I just think she has so much skill we haven't seen yet. I don't think we should just put Falcon above her in h2h combat just because he got a few new feats in FATWS, she's one of best spies on earth, she has tons of experience, she's clearly supposed to be near Caps level in h2h combat. She's had years of experience and learned every fighting style on earth and now Falcon gets a few new feats and he's above her in h2h combat? I don't think he is above her.
She’s been in the movies for over a decade. She’s had a decade to prove herself and she died in Endgame.
Falcon has also had years of experience. He‘s been in the military plus he didn’t just get a “few” new feats. He got crazy new big feats. Plus he’s gonna get even better than he is now because I heard they are making a Captain America 4.
Cap, Black Panther, Falcon and others have already gotten full movies and tv series's about them, Black Widow is just now getting a movie about her and she had less scenes than characters like Thor, Hulk, Iron man, Cap. We haven't seen the best of her yet and we haven't seen the best of Hawkeye or Wanda either.
Black Widow is dead. The movie she’s getting is a prequel. Plus she has not gotten less screen time than Hulk.
Your right about Hawkeye though, he’s getting a show. Wanda had HELLA screen time though. Let’s be real. She’s gonna be a part of Dr. Strange 2 though.
Sam is still new to the shield. He’s not even close to his best, he‘s getting his own Captain America movie.
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