MCU Elektra vs CW Arrow (Pre Al Sah-him)

Vs.

Elektra takes on the Arrow (pre Al Sah-him) in a random encounter with the opponents having no prior knowledge of one another.

Stats are equalized (to Oliver's level).

Round 1: Both are unarmed.

Round 2: Elektra has her twin sai. Oliver has his bow to use as a melee weapon only.

Both combatants are morals off and determined to win by any means necessary.

Who wins and why?

Is this Elektra with Defenders skill feats?

Elektra both rounds, but Oliver makes it entertaining.

Yes, but stats are equalized.

@raavn: Elektra in that case, but Oliver gives her a decent fight

Bump.

If it's Black Sky, she takes it. If it's Elektra, Oliver takes it.

@rbt: It is Black Sky but her physicals are lowered to Ollie's level.

Elektra.

I'd back Elektra both rounds. She's more limited in feats, but between her 10 ninjas showing and scaling off of Danny (who could arguably beat pre-League Ollie himself), she can win this, especially round 2

@raavn: I'd say Black Sky is more skilled than Pre Al Sah Him Ollie. She takes it.

I’d go Elektra in a solid fight.

Elektra solidly but not easily

How do you know that her feat against the 10 ninjas and against Danny only involved skill, and no speed/strength? Daredevil is clearly more skilled than her, but do you see him taking those ninjas out as easily as she did?

If we take those variables out (speed and strength), all we can look at is statements, training, and choreography, which is a toss-up.

@bladeoffury:

She used swords, wouldn’t have been strength against the ninjas

If Elektra was significantly faster than someone like Matt, it would’ve shown in their fight, but she showed no speed advantage. Her main enhancements are strength/durability

Who are you, and what have you done to RBT?

Black sky Elektra wins both rounds. Regular Elektra loses both rounds

@the_magister: Lmao

Elektra mid difficulty.

@arcus1:

Even if she killed most of them with swords, a strength advantage makes a big difference. She could easily grab their wrists and overpower them, rag-doll them, wrestle their weapons out of their hands, etc. And even durability plays a role, as she would not be affected by their kicks/punches.

Do you see regular Elektra, the one who struggled against a couple ninjas, replicating this feat? Do you see regular Elektra mocking Danny, with him calling her faster than anyone he has ever seen?

They were attacking her with swords, not punching/kicking

Elektra got additional training post resurrection, and before her death she wasn't as fast as Ollie anyway

At the end of the day, I'm not sure there's a good way to somehow separate speed from skill, because being able to move quickly in combat is part of skill. It's not like Elektra's some sort of speedster

Oliver

Elektra due to defenders feats.

Elektra stabs a wall and disarms herself

Ollie could win R1.

Elektra wins R2.

Black Sky mid diff here