MCU Defenders and Frank Castle vs. Shield Team

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Defenders featuring Frank Castle

Shield team: May, Mack, Daisy, Ward and Deatlok

Round 1: H2H only. No Chi for Danny, no quaking for Daisy

Round 2: Standard melee weapons: Batons for Matt, Knives for Ward, Frank and May, Axe for Mack. Chi for Danny, still no quaking for Daisy.

Im not sure who is stronger,Luke or Deatlok

Deathlok solos both rounds. Even nerfing him to Cage level, Team SHIELD should win both. May/Ward/Daisy are > Matt/Danny/Jessica.

Eh.Nerfing to Cage Level?What are his best showings?IIRC Luke is more durable than him with comparible strength

@granitevision: This is prior to his robot upgrades.

Pushes a bulldozer

Defeats a more experienced soldier with the same powers as him, also stops a huge shipping container the other centipede soldier hurled at him.

Survived being blown up with a few burnscars and a missing leg.

He also scaled an apartment building by digging his hand and feet into the bricks and then jumped off it safely. Could not find a video.

After upgrades:

Impervious to a high caliber sniper rifle barely flinching and immune to narcotics, can smash through a ceiling with no problem.

Defeated several creations of the fear dimension mimicking the Lash, Hive and Vrellnexians.

He also was stated on a news program to have stormed an embassy by himself and murdered the ambassador despite his security and easily defeated Garret, who was also a centipede soldier at that point. And snapped a persons neck with just his one hand. Don't find videos on these either right now.

@stahlflamme: good

But not more powerful than Luke.Luke is even more durable than him before robotic enhancement.And Luke has comparible strength feats(or even stronger if we scale him from Bushmaster).I think Detlok can win due to skills but this is not a stomp.Not even close

@granitevision: No, not really. See Deathlock toss that guy into the air at the end of the last gif we saw Luke doing virtually the same thing to a guy to a lesser degree. Likewise while Lukes skin is more durable that is really it. We saw he is far more prone to internal injuries, like when he was spitting blood from a few punches of Diamondback and when he dislocated his shoulder after he was knocked from the first floor by that quadruple shotgun or whatever it was.

@stahlflamme: Luke was damaged whyle doing so.He tossen 300+ kg tire at tremendous distance.He was able to stop speeding 3 ton SUV and snap thick steel chain with ease.

Defenders

Cage wank again...

...Shield team stomps.

How punches work-

Damage comes from three things: (1) the impact itself, which may be manifested in, say, a broken jaw; (2) acceleration to the brain leading to abrupt contact with the skull, possibly resulting in concussion; and (3) the rotational force that twists the brain within the skull, increasing the severity of injury and the likelihood of a knockout.

Hardened skin protects against none of that. We see this in action and we know where luke scales. We had half an episode of track and field measuring him.

Deathlok literally has a faster sprint while pushing a bulldozer, meaning he generates far more watts of power in his legs and core, meaning he can generate far more ground force reaction thus putting far more momentum behind his strikes...meaning he punches harder than Luke as well, and yes, his actual punching feats show this.

His hardened skin does nothing to help against Mike. His added strength can help against his head snapping or turning, but we know how much it takes to snap his head...about the force of a shotgun. We know how much it takes to cause a dislocation or impact damage...once again, about the force of a shotgun blast.

Cage has super impressive armored skin...you know how you beat a guy in armor? You bludgeon him until his insides break.

Deathlok is more than powerful enough to do that to Cage. He is more than good enough a fighter to land on him and his feat against the vrelnexians shows is more agile with better reactions than anyone cage has fought, much less ever beat.

Shield team steams them. Everyone on their team is better than their counterpart on the Defenders.

@granitevision: 300 kgs is 660lbs. That tire was stated to be 400 lbs. You're ignoring the actual stated weight.

Team SHIELD

@paytience: I just forgot about it.But it does not make a big difference in this context

R1:

Jessica can't tag anyone. She is useless.

Frank is less skilled than everybody in Shield team in H2H.

Danny and Matt are meant to be close to Ward, May and Daisy, but they are still slightly worse, I think + they are two skilled fighters agains 3 + Mack being more skilled and dangerous than JJ and Frank in H2h.

Cage is not even close to Deathlok and he can easily get knocked down.

So, Shield with relatively mid to high-mid effort.

R2:

Deathlok solos.

Defenders for sure. Luke vs Deathlok will be an incredible fight. Not really sure who will win, but with an even slight assist from Jess or maybe Danny, I don't see Deathlok winning. And I wouldn't put it past Frank to try and headshot the robot.

Shield only has one power hitter. Defenders have 3. One of whom capable of outskilling everyone on Shield team, so that doesn't help.

Okay I'm gonna admit I totally forgot a bunch of super impressive feats for Deathlock. Dang!

Overpowered hydraulics of Quinjet's door,jumped through ceiling,can jump really high.Other centipede soldiers were able to push huge shipping containers