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Strange, mismatch. TP is hardly going to work on someone with thousands of different demons inside him.

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Strange is quicker, so he wins. Both could potentially one shot

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Probably Strange

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Dr strange stomps, also he's made up of millions of beings ,goodluck getting into his mind

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What's Charles supposed to do here?

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TP feats for Strange ?

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Strange mismatch

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Strange wrecks.
Legit has universal feats. Please lock this thread.

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Without cerebro Charles gets stomped

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#15  Edited By samhmd1

Xavier's telepathy doesn't work on alien beings, so he'd lose to a person who is an amalgamation of several alien beings. He couldn't even overpower Apocalypse or Jessica Chastain.

Strange takes this easily.

And even if Strange is susceptible, he's must faster than Xavier's ability to do anything. In X2, Xavier had plenty of time to tell the guards in the facility gassing him to stop, and he couldn't do anything to them.

As usual, FOX fails.

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Strange stomps. The creatures inside him fight him for control and will take over if for some reason Xavier's tp works. No evidence Xavier can control non-humans (mutants come from humanity), and Strange can resist the power of Infinity Stones, which can do way more than Xavier in reality warping. Strange easily interfered with Ultron within the area affected by the time stone which slowed everything down. Xavier gets absorbed. Throw in Magneto to help Xavier and the mutants still lose. Dark Strange is above anything in the X-Men films. Even Dark Phoenix didn't do anything like absorbing a galaxy busting attack. Strange also got past the same protection spell that kept the team alive against Ultron's infinity stones. Then there's also the fact that Strange has the time stone.

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Strange. I have no idea how this can be considered even remotely close.

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Strange solos Fox.

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Strange solos Fox.

This. Not even Phoenix would stand a chance.

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#20  Edited By geekryan

Again, people are putting raw power over everything else.

Strange has no counter to Xavier's telepathy. Doesn't matter how many universes he can bust.

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@samhmd1 said:

Xavier's telepathy doesn't work on alien beings, so he'd lose to a person who is an amalgamation of several alien beings. He couldn't even overpower Apocalypse or Jessica Chastain.

Strange takes this easily.

And even if Strange is susceptible, he's must faster than Xavier's ability to do anything. In X2, Xavier had plenty of time to tell the guards in the facility gassing him to stop, and he couldn't do anything to them.

As usual, FOX fails.

Did you know Strange is human being ? Human born from human woman and has human brain.

Another new of a day.

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@rebake said:

Strange stomps. The creatures inside him fight him for control and will take over if for some reason Xavier's tp works. No evidence Xavier can control non-humans (mutants come from humanity), and Strange can resist the power of Infinity Stones, which can do way more than Xavier in reality warping. Strange easily interfered with Ultron within the area affected by the time stone which slowed everything down. Xavier gets absorbed. Throw in Magneto to help Xavier and the mutants still lose. Dark Strange is above anything in the X-Men films. Even Dark Phoenix didn't do anything like absorbing a galaxy busting attack. Strange also got past the same protection spell that kept the team alive against Ultron's infinity stones. Then there's also the fact that Strange has the time stone.

Nothing of this proves he has mind control. This power was only meant to be gain more energy to overcome absolute point.

Also Strange absorbtion work only on magic beings

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Just saying iirc the beings that strange absorbs are still alive and actively in him

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#24  Edited By samhmd1

@yunobogoro1: Doesn't matter, by this point. He's faster than Xavier can think, and a fusion of human and nonhuman. IE, no longer human. And we already know Xavier can't affect nonhumans from "Dark Phoenix".

Either way, he defeats Xavier. The same Xavier who couldn't even stop normal humans in X2.

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@geekryan: He's not human anymore, and we know Xavier's powers won't affect nonhumans from "Dark Phoenix". Plus, he's faster than Xavier's brain can react because Xavier couldn't even stop those human guards in X2.

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Dr strange stomps, also he's made up of millions of beings ,goodluck getting into his mind

@samhmd1 said:

@geekryan: He's not human anymore, and we know Xavier's powers won't affect nonhumans from "Dark Phoenix". Plus, he's faster than Xavier's brain can react because Xavier couldn't even stop those human guards in X2.

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@samhmd1 said:

@geekryan: He's not human anymore, and we know Xavier's powers won't affect nonhumans from "Dark Phoenix". Plus, he's faster than Xavier's brain can react because Xavier couldn't even stop those human guards in X2.

1) Yes he's still human. Just because he absorbed other entities does not mean he isn't human anymore.

2) This is false. Xavier was able to read Vuk's mind.

3) Prove he's faster. You're using one anti-feat feat to lowball Xavier when we've seen him use his TP against several characters that are faster than regular humans.

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@geekryan: Nope, once you start absorbing other beings into yourself and meld with them, you are by definition a hybridized being. No longer human.

Xavier couldn't do a thing to Vuk, this was stated in the movie and shown.

He couldn't stop those guards in X2, where Super-Strange has battled with beings faster than anything Xavier dealt with. Never once was Xavier shown to be able to affect anyone with a superior to human speed.

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@geekryan: Nope, once you start absorbing other beings into yourself and meld with them, you are by definition a hybridized being. No longer human.

Xavier couldn't do a thing to Vuk, this was stated in the movie and shown.

He couldn't stop those guards in X2, where Super-Strange has battled with beings faster than anything Xavier dealt with. Never once was Xavier shown to be able to affect anyone with a superior to human speed.

Prove he was no longer human, or that his mind was no longer human.

Charles was able to read Vuk's mind when he first encountered her. He pauses, tilts his head (which he often does when reading minds), and says "What are you?"

Even if Charles couldn't affect Vuk's mind, that is NOT proof that he can't affect all aliens....and Strange isn't even an alien lol.

Xavier has been able to stop entire crowds of people, Sabretooth, Magneto, Mystique, Magneto, Sebastian Shaw, Wolverine, etc.

Prove Strange is faster and would immediately strike down an old man in a wheelchair.

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@geekryan: If absorbing demonic entities doesn't make you a hybridized creature, what does?

No, Charles and Vuk both state that he can't do anything to them. He was trying to read her mind and couldn't. It shows that his powers don't work on alien beings, and that would include the demonic entities Strange absorbed.

Strange kept up with Infinity Ultron, who was much faster than any of those others who aren't faster than normal humans.

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@violettagood:

1) Faster physically to keep up with Infinity Ultron, who was faster than any human. Thus, Strange's hand gestures are also fasted than Xavier can think. Plus, being a Human/Demon hybrid would mean Xavier couldn't affect him.

2) Absorbing their bodies and physiology means he's becoming a human/demon hybrid creature. It's why he's physically different looking than normal Strange too. He isn't eating them, he's outright assimilating their very being.

3) He didn't suffocate when his entire reality collapsed on him. Meaning he was more than human.

4) No, those guards had nothing protecting them and Xavier was too slow to stop them once he knew what they were doing. He didn't hold his breath and tell them to stop and let him out, he couldn't react fast enough.

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Xavier is a fodder who can't even put down a little girl with his psi-waves

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@samhmd1 said:

@geekryan: If absorbing demonic entities doesn't make you a hybridized creature, what does?

No, Charles and Vuk both state that he can't do anything to them. He was trying to read her mind and couldn't. It shows that his powers don't work on alien beings, and that would include the demonic entities Strange absorbed.

Strange kept up with Infinity Ultron, who was much faster than any of those others who aren't faster than normal humans.

1) I asked you to provide proof that Strange's mind is not human. Not that it really matters anyway, since there is no proof Xavier couldn't affect him, which brings us to...

2) No. There is zero evidence for this claim of yours.

3) Lol what? Black Widow, Killmonger, T'Challa, and Gamora also kept up with Infinity Ultron. The same dude who couldn't react to an arrow.

Pretty interesting how you have yet to provide a single piece of evidence despite all your outrageous claims.

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@violettagood: He assimilated multiple inhuman beings into himself, meaning he's no longer human in biology either. Therefore, similar to Vuk, he's unaffected by telepathy. You need to accept it.

Ultron was more than human in speed.

It's magic, not science. That's all that needs to be said.

He wasn't eating them, he was assimilating them. Difference.

Nope, because he's not human anymore. That's how he could survive when reality came undone and there was no air.

Xavier couldn't stop human guards from gassing him, fact.

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@geekryan: Strange assimilated inhuman demonic beings into himself, making him a Human/Demon hybrid. Therefore, like Vuk, his brain wouldn't be a humans and he wouldn't be susceptible to Xavier who can't affect alien beings.

Charles couldn't control Vuk or stop her with his powers. She was immune.

T'Challa, Killmonger and Gamora are beyond human. And BW was only able to fight him when he was focusing on all of them.

Xavier couldn't stop the human guards in X2, he couldn't stop the normal humans in the DOFP future, he couldn't affect Vuk and her people. Therefore, he's too slow for Strange and his powers wouldn't affect him due to him not being 100% human anymore.

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@samhmd1 said:

@geekryan: Strange assimilated inhuman demonic beings into himself, making him a Human/Demon hybrid. Therefore, like Vuk, his brain wouldn't be a humans and he wouldn't be susceptible to Xavier who can't affect alien beings.

Charles couldn't control Vuk or stop her with his powers. She was immune.

T'Challa, Killmonger and Gamora are beyond human. And BW was only able to fight him when he was focusing on all of them.

Xavier couldn't stop the human guards in X2, he couldn't stop the normal humans in the DOFP future, he couldn't affect Vuk and her people. Therefore, he's too slow for Strange and his powers wouldn't affect him due to him not being 100% human anymore.

Oh wow, still no feats or evidence huh? And more lowballing & BS?

Let me know when you're done with the headcanon and start providing actual proof.

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#39  Edited By samhmd1

@geekryan: Evidence is in Dark Phoenix, where we see how Xavier's powers couldn't stop Vuk and her people. Inhuman being = Immune. Supreme Strange = Inhuman. He doesn't eat aliens, he absorbs and assimilates them into himself. He doesn't need to breathe air or eat. That isn't human.

Oh and he assimilated Dormammu, who had telepathic abilities and dimensional communication abilities, so there's that.

It's not lowballing, it's right there in X2. Xavier had plenty of time to hold his breath and mentally command the guards to stop what they were doing and get him out....he didn't.

Of course, if you can give an example of Xavier thinking super-fast. Like on an Infinity Ultron level...

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@violettagood: Not eating magic, assimilating entire beings. He took on their traits, after all.

He was shifting between looking like a mish mash and looking human. His human form was just him using magic to maintain a familiar physical appearance.

Strange ain't human. He didn't need to breathe or eat or anything.

Infinity Ultron needed the Guardians of the Multiverse to stop him. Opposite of a Jobber.

Absorption, and assimilation.

Him shifting between human form and demon mish-mash, shows he wasn't human anymore.

Nope. It's just because...he's no longer human.

It's an example of Xavier being crap at reaction.

Nope, you saying it's a plot hole him surviving stuff a human can't merely means you can't accept....that he's not human.

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Bro Kano this is how Violeta “debates” she/he says something, you answer the question/counter the point the repeat the same thing over and over till you get tired of the. bS then say they’ve won lmao.

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The beings inside him literally alter his appearance. If strange gets tped Xavier won’t know how to hold them back

One will take control and kill him in a split second

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#45 death4bunnies  Moderator

Iirc Prof X couldn’t TP the Dbari aliens.. because they had “alien minds” according to him.. so Strange.

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#48  Edited By samhmd1

@violettagood: He's seen assimilating them, and we see how he changes to resemble them before he magically changes his outer appearance back to resembling human. Hence, not truly human.

Nope, you're refusing to accept he's not human despite the show showing us this.

No need to breathe or eat or drink = Not Human.

So now you're just being pissy because you dislike certain characters? It shows Ultron is just that powerful...more than anything in FoX-Men.

Assimilation, we see him changing when he assimilates before changing his appearance back.

Yes, assimilating demons means he's not human. He's a hybrid of various beings.

You're asking the show to spoonfeed you when it tells you he's not human visually.

No, Xavier doesn't have good speed feats. He loses to normal humans when he has several seconds to stop them...or just hold his breath. He's pathetic.

Xavier couldn't mind hack Vuk and her people. Cause they weren't human. So he can't do that to nonhumans, which includes the hybrid Strange.

"BECAUSE I BELIEVE SO."

You believe wrong, and you have no proof Xavier's powers work on demonic beings.

As always, X-Men fails.

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Iirc Prof X couldn’t TP the Dbari aliens.. because they had “alien minds” according to him.. so Strange.

I addressed this already, but let me just give my two cents:

1) Xavier was indeed capable of at least reading Vuk's mind. However, he wasn't able to affect her beyond that.

2) The word "alien" was never used. Vuk had said "You can't control my mind like theirs" to Jean. Xavier never fought the D'Bari.

Vuk also displayed telepathy in the form of illusions, meaning she was a telepath to some degree. Jean being unable to affect her mind could be due to this. There is no indication that Jean couldn't affect Vuk because she was an alien, and even then, there's no proof that it generalizes to ALL aliens. Jean was host to the Phoenix Force, a cosmic being who amped all her powers. It make no sense that she can only affect the minds of humans.