Not finished S3 yet. Gonna avoid threads in case of spoilers. If he gets back to his Defenders level strength by the end of the season he stomps but otherwise not sure as of course I don't know his power level.
I feel like season 3 proved that his Defender feats against Elektra don't hold up past that series, or maybe I'm just interpreting it wrong.
Matt was a physical mess for most of the season, it all happened during the span of a couple of weeks, he never actually recovered from his original injuries. Even then he was dominating Dex in thier mano a mano and holding his own against Kingpin whose feats are outright superhuman for MCU standards.
Usually I'd go with Matt. But throughout S3, he seemed to struggle to put Bullseye down in H2H even with rope gloves. If that was due to the DD armor that Dex was wearing, then Matt wins (since ritual gear is bear chested). However, if it was because Matt's striking strength had diminished, then Killmonger wins (since he can take a hit and is better in H2H than Dex).
It's hard to judge this since you're essentially just scaling from T'Challa, but at the same time their encounter had some context that makes Erik beating him to somewhat questionable.
Backing Matt since there's less room for interpretation with his feats in S3, and because I see him as above depowered T'Challa anyway.
@tonymartial: after first fight with Dex he got two things stuck in (a scissor in his shoulder area and I forget what else) that was sure to cause some blood loss. He was kicked in the face and had that thing fall on him, too. He had to limp out of the building and that’s just what I remember.
There's really no argument for Killmonger. Matt never had significant periods of rest throughout the season so you can't hold being unimpressive against him when he already has better feats with just Defenders.
I feel like season 3 proved that his Defender feats against Elektra don't hold up past that series, or maybe I'm just interpreting it wrong.
You're definitely interpreting it wrong, they specifically showed us why Matt was not operating at the standards he was during that time, he's currently deaf in his right ear, so he's quite literally at 50%.
There's nothing suggesting Killmonger is better than Punisher or Bullseye, two guys who Matt has dominated skillwise. His only herbless feat is defeating herbless T'Challa who:
is blatantly unimpressive
was most likely holding back
and/or was weakened by the depowering process
And since Killmonger has neither Punisher's durability nor Bullseye's armor...
@citizensurfer: Despite Matt saying Kingpin found someone just as skilled and fast as him? The way he said it implied that even in his prime he considered bullseye on his level as I don't see how kingpin would know how bad Matt had gotten due to his injuries from defenders
@citizensurfer: Despite Matt saying Kingpin found someone just as skilled and fast as him? The way he said it implied that even in his prime he considered bullseye on his level as I don't see how kingpin would know how bad Matt had gotten due to his injuries from defenders
I recommend you try and remember what Matt accomplished during the first 2 seasons of Daredevil as well as the 8 episodes of The Defenders and then compare it to what Matt has shown during season 3. Matt was capable of taking out Hand ninjas with little to no difficulty compared to Matt struggling to take out prison inmates during season 3.
I know it doesn't cover every feat performed, but I feel like the CAV I had against All-Father more or less reinforces my point that Daredevil has been drastically weakened due to his injuries sustained during the finale episode of The Defenders.
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