RULES
- Fight to K.O. or Death
- In Character, but Serious
- Fighters Start 10 Feet Apart
- Iron Man is Grounded (No Flight)
- Iron Man can only use Repulsor Blasts/Unibeam as his Ranged Attack
- Current Luke Cage and Iron Fist
- Perfect Teamwork
Duo, fairly easily I think. Luke can wrestle with Iron Man whilst Danny charges a chi punch. A few chi punches will probably be enough.
Could go either way:
Iron Man could take out Iron Fist without too much problem. Assuming the Uni-Beam can hurt Luke then that's how he puts him down. And with In-Universe Logic, his weaponry can hurt Luke. As the Judas Bullet could in Season 1 and Tony Stark was shown to be leagues above Justin Hammer in terms of Weaponry.
OR
Luke Cage could destroy the suit, this was a pretty weak suit. If Iron Fist gets time to charge his Chi and land a punch then Iron Man would be hurt and grounded, then Luke could beat him down from there.
Iron Man takes this...he was holding back aginst Cap and only didn't stomp because of the previous damage to his suit...they can't handle repulsors...
@amonfire1776: So was Cap Lol and any evidence to suggest they can’t?
Iron Man. People underestimate him because of the suit but he's still too good.
@debategod: Yes so I've heard. I haven't finished Luke Cage Season 2 anyway so I'll refrain from debating.
@mrmonster: why?
@theholyfish: None of iron mans weaponry can actually harm Luke and Danny is simply more powerful and a better fighter
If the ONLY feat you saw was Tony H2H’ing Buck/Steve in CW, then you’d probably say the duo 8-9/10. Tony was struggling to keep up and the duo punished him for it.
However, Tony utilizing his energy blasts would win because of dividing and conquering. He can ragdoll Cage back 15ft and then 2 or 3 shot Danny. He doesn’t have to actually engage them in H2H, those blasts will work (at least until one is KO’d and he can fully focus on the other). Tony’s suit has taken hits from everyone in MCU; don’t see Cage holding him down or Danny penetrating it any kinda way.
@originalcaptain: No lol Luke can tank it
I could see it going either way. Since Danny and Luke are good friends.. I could see some real good teamwork here. Danny uses Luke as a shield from repulsors. Luke starts throwing everything he has, while Danny stands behind him to charge up his chi, and strike Tony in the face. However if Tony separates the two I can see Danny getting oneshotted, just like how Falcon did in Civil War. Season 2 Luke Vs. Tony would be pretty interesting to see if I do say so myself.
The CW repulsors can't even crack the ground or such. Meanwhile Luke has taken punchs from Jones, Bushmaster and you know the Iron Fist.
No. The CW repulsors don't have the capacity to even stagger him.
@theholyfish: None of iron mans weaponry can actually harm Luke and Danny is simply more powerful and a better fighter
Repulsor blasts alone would slow Luke down. A laser would stagger him. A Unibeam blast would put him down. Iron Fist is the superior fighter, but he lacks the durability to hang with Tony for long. A chi punch would damage Iron Man, but not enough to alter the outcome of the fight.
The team wins! Luke is the shield while Iron Fist is the sword. Hell even Luke can become a sword if needed.
Cage solos
The CW repulsors can't even crack the ground or such. Meanwhile Luke has taken punchs from Jones, Bushmaster and you know the Iron Fist.
No. The CW repulsors don't have the capacity to even stagger him.
Cage solos
Still this
Nobody here can really give a good argument for why Tony would win if the conditions remain the same as the fight he had with Cap/Bucky.
Cage is quite a bit stronger and vastly more durable than Cap. Danny can output more raw physical force than anybody here if Luke gets him an opening. Enough force to do significant damage to this specific showing of IM.
Luke can literally hold this version of Tony down. That scene is PIS/WIS but that's the version of IM we are working with here. A version with a suit that can be torn apart by SS level characters. With a beam that Luke can face tank.
Anybody attempting to give Tony the win, will do so with arguments that don't use the version from that scene and how it was portrayed.
Tony can fly and keep distance, he might not have a way to hurt Luke but he one shots Danny hard. Luke will eventually go down.
@nomar: what are luke's durability feats?
The duo. Danny is too fast to be tagged by Tony with projectiles, he can close the distance for chi attacks pretty easily. Luke and him will definitely press Tony better than Bucky and Cap (especially because of perfect teamwork) and will slowly tear him apart.
@divyansh13: I'm gonna link to 2 videos that kind of get the gist of most of his feats (not all).
There is a strength feat at 11:45 in the video above that Cap can't replicate without a lot of exertion. The man baby taps people on the forehead to knock them out.
Both videos are chock full of durability feats though. Between various caliber firearms and explosives. When it comes to durability Cap and Luke shouldn't be compared. Cap was brought down by a 9mm pistol in Winter Soldier. Which isn't a diss against cap. Some of my favourite heroes can be killed with a bullet. It just means Luke deserves to be respected enough to not have that be a point of contention.
I think movie level production quality can sway a lot of people as well and Luke Cage never had that.
@divyansh13: I'm gonna link to 2 videos that kind of get the gist of most of his feats (not all).
There is a strength feat at 11:45 in the video above that Cap can't replicate without a lot of exertion. The man baby taps people on the forehead to knock them out.
Both videos are chock full of durability feats though. Between various caliber firearms and explosives. When it comes to durability Cap and Luke shouldn't be compared. Cap was brought down by a 9mm pistol in Winter Soldier. Which isn't a diss against cap. Some of my favourite heroes can be killed with a bullet. It just means Luke deserves to be respected enough to not have that be a point of contention.
I think movie level production quality can sway a lot of people as well and Luke Cage never had that.
Ah thanks, he wins then
Tony in that armor could take many hits from Cap without damage. Cap could one shot Outriders, which could survive a building sized explosion, occasionally shrug off the tank busting blasts of sonic spears, and could get back up from pretty large explosions from Hawkeye's explosive arrows. Explosions of similar size from these arrows could destroy Chitauri chariots(2), which were durable enough to survive a Chitauri Leviathan flying into it. These Leviathans could fly through buildings like nothing. While it may be hard to see it, the chariots usually explode when they are destroyed, like when Hulk hits them or when Iron Man's repulsors hit them, and as you can see, the chariot didn't explode when it hot the leviathan. These chariots also took no damage from a Chitauri gun, which is powerful enough to warp a bank vault door.
Cap could also punch parts off of an Ultron bot and one shot it with a single punch, as you can see toward the end of the video(the gif goes by kind of fast, so here it is slowed down). These were the same bots that could no sell gunfire from an AK 47. An Ultron bot was also unscathed by one of these explosions from Hawkeye's arrow.
He could also destroy the helmet of a Chitauri soldier and simultaneously kill it with a palm strike. These helmets scale above the Ultron bots in durability, as Hawkeye's arrows weren't able to fully go through them, while his arrows could go straight through one side of the Ultron bots' head and out the other side. These Chitauri soldiers have shown superhuman durability, as they could no sell car crumpling falls, survive a few blasts capable of deforming bank vault doors before being killed, and could stay fully intact from an explosion that could destroy Chitauri chariots. It's also important to add that Chitauri metal was the one substance durable enough to pierce Luke's skin in S1, yet Cap easily destroyed it.
Many of the things that Chi fist has done when it comes to damage output, Cap can replicate, and some things, such as Cap one shotting aliens that can survive building sized explosions, I can't see the Chi fist replicating. Even then, Cap was only able to damage the armor by using the sharp edge of his shield to pierce it. Luke and Danny don't have anything sharp here, so they have no way of harming Tony.
Iron Man could knock down Giant Man, as well as stun him badly. While he did receive help from War Machine and Peters webs, War Machine couldn't affect Giant Man by hitting him directly in the back of the knees with a large metal object while his legs were webbed up, so I don't think War Machine and Spider Man's webbing would've contributed much to knocking down Scott. Also, Vision, who could split a bus in half by standing still, and could create a small crater in the ground by slamming WV into it, could only stagger Scott with a full body hit to the chest. Scott wasn't knocked down and was able to recover from this hit quickly, while Scott was incapacitated after Iron Man hit him. His striking would easily harm Luke, and would one shot Danny.
Tony could also land hits on Cap, who could time bullets. You can here the bullet being fired in the background before Cap reacts.
This is the exact moment when the bullet was heard being fired in the background. Cap doesn't react yet.
Still after the bullet was fired. You can see that Cap moved his shield up to protect his face.
The bullet finally reaches him, but he blocks it in time. This is a clear bullet timing feat. So, Tony should have no problem with tagging Danny, and him having the ability to analyze his fight pattern makes it easier.
Also, Tony's repulsors were able to burn Cap's suit.
This same suit didn't receive any damage at all from Ultron's lasers, which could ragdoll Iron Man hard enough to dent a metal door behind him, and blast the front of a train out. Tony could easily harm Danny or Luke at range with his repulsors.
@luminoushydra: hmm.. Sir, here is no missile allowed in the rules
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