Carl Creel
Jessica Jones
- In-character, morals on
- Win by KO/Incapacitation
- Fight takes place at a car garage
- Start 15ft apart
Carl. Better in every way.
Creel.
I think Jessica is stronger than Creel, but her durability is lacking. If he transforms his skin into metal, which he'll obviously do, Jessica will hurt herself just by punching him. After that, it won't take long before she goes down.
Jessica has punched through car metal with no injury.
I love that picture of Jessica lol
Creel.
I think Jessica is stronger than Creel, but her durability is lacking. If he transforms his skin into metal, which he'll obviously do, Jessica will hurt herself just by punching him. After that, it won't take long before she goes down.
Jessica has punched through car metal with no injury.
When has she done that?
Carl. Better in every way.
He's not a better drinker.
Would you guys say he's stronger?
@mutant1230: She punched through the hood of a car in season 2 while threatening the guy that molested Trish.
Agree with RBT, if Creel actually uses his powers, he wins. He might not be as strong (depends on what he absorbs), but he's a better fighter and more durable.
The only reason it's an "if" is because Creel's had a couple notable fights (May, and most recently Ruby) where he didn't make full use of his powers. If he tries that, could give Jessica an opening
@angeljax: Assuming he absorbs the metal off of a car right away, I'd assume so.
Creel.
I think Jessica is stronger than Creel, but her durability is lacking. If he transforms his skin into metal, which he'll obviously do, Jessica will hurt herself just by punching him. After that, it won't take long before she goes down.
Jessica has punched through car metal with no injury.
When has she done that?
Jessica doesn't tend to go in with everything she has, so even if her underestimates her he should have a chance to adapt, and once he realises what she's capable of he should win.
@angeljax: Right! You put them in a car garage so there's not much else Creel will be able to mimic. He has much better fighting skills than Jessica, she can take him out in one punch .
I give to JJ 6/10 with this feat in mind.
Jessica doesn't tend to go in with everything she has, so even if her underestimates her he should have a chance to adapt, and once he realises what she's capable of he should win.
"CrEeL aDaPtS aNd OnE-sHoTs"
Creel seems to be stronger than Mack and verging into superhuman physical, since he can manhandle Ruby (yeah he's like twice her size but she's pak human). That still outs him below Jessica, but probably strong enough to knock her out if he gets some clean or well angled hits. He's fairly skilled as well.
Creel Takes it
Jessica
Creel stomps
Any reasons?
Creel.
I think Jessica is stronger than Creel, but her durability is lacking. If he transforms his skin into metal, which he'll obviously do, Jessica will hurt herself just by punching him. After that, it won't take long before she goes down.
Jessica has punched through car metal with no injury.
Alisa hurted her hand punching concrete during the episode she was impressioned, IRRC, and she scales Jessica down.
@thekinfing: I just posted a gif of Jessica easily plowing through a hood of a car.
Jessica also punched through concrete and while it does make her shed a little bit of blood, she's barely bothered by it.
@angeljax: Creel actually has H2H skill and his striking is more than enough to put her down.
@angeljax: the hood of a car is extremely thin and weak metal, it’s not as impressive as you think, people doing car running have had their feet go straight through them before and break peoples ankles
People are seriously lowballing Creel
People forgetting that he’s far beyond her capabilities once he absorbs something? Or the fact he’s highly skilled in H2H combat and has reacted to sniper bullets after they were fired, not to mention without having absorbed anything he’s still bulletproof and can no sell mutiple gun shots to the chest
@rbt: Jessica can one or two shot someone who tanked being hit in the skull with heavy weights by superhuman Ruby and kept fighting like nothing happened ?
How is Ruby's striking power superhuman? And Jess has far better strength and striking feats than Ruby does.
who also in one of earlier appearances no sold being shot in the chest mutiple times
Without absorbing anything and by actual bullets? If that's true, then Jess can't one shot him.
@royal_warrior: Creel was metal under his clothes. That's how they figure out his powers. The fragments of metal they found turn back to skin.
@royal_warrior: @greysentinel365: actually if i remeber correctly he absorbed the lead from the bullets as they hit him.
@angeljax: Creel can take this because of his skill. Creel could keep up with Ruby and Ruby did well against Daisy and I believe Daisy could beat Jessica due to her skill. Creel powers make it an easy win for him.
@paytience@anthp2000 Thoughts?
Haven't watched JJ season 2 yet, but unless she got training she's still an untrained brawler who mainly grabs, throws, and pushes versus a trained fighter. She can definitely hurt him, but I don't think she can KO him before he absorbs something strong. Creel also seems to be slightly stronger than whatever material he absorbs, as when he absorbs the concrete wall then starts smashing his head through it the wall is cracked and visibly damaged but he turns out fine. According to General Hale, who employed Creel and had knowledge of the project that created him, he could survive setting off a suicide vest. Just a statement so not a hard feat, but it does reinforce what we already now about him, that he's incredibly durable once he absorbs something.
EDIT: For reference, it was stated he could survive this amount of C4: https://youtu.be/6ld3Van8co0?t=23s
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