Ikaris takes this. He’s much much faster, more skilled, and more durable.
His casual cloud dispersion feat>>>>Carol’s feats
He statues and destroys her in H2H or he bullrushes her to the sun.
Bit off topic but you think Thor will beat CM after his forth movie, right? But how about Ikaris, do you think we should expect Thor to get something that will allow him to deal with Ikaris' speed?
Ikaris takes this. He’s much much faster, more skilled, and more durable.
His casual cloud dispersion feat>>>>Carol’s feats
He statues and destroys her in H2H or he bullrushes her to the sun.
Bit off topic but you think Thor will beat CM after his forth movie, right? But how about Ikaris, do you think we should expect Thor to get something that will allow him to deal with Ikaris' speed?
Yeah Thor will definitely be comfortably above Carol and Wanda in his fourth film. As for Thor’s speed, (speculation) but I think since in the comics Thor’s fight with Gorr was famously in space at MFTL speeds, the MCU will do something similar. Especially with Waiti saying its crazier than anything and saying it’s just like the comics. So I think Thor’s space fight with Gorr will give him the speed he needs.
Since they were hella ambiguous about Ikaris’s leaving to the sun by cutting the screen I also think he’ll return and get more feats later on. Probably join an Avenger’s level fight or help CM, Strange, Thor fight a cosmic threat later on.
OT: Ikaris takes this comfortably. He statues, and pummels her with island level power or overloads her with HV that melted/tore apart a ship that can casually tank the temperatures of the sun.
Ikaris takes this. He’s much much faster, more skilled, and more durable.
His casual cloud dispersion feat>>>>Carol’s feats
He statues and destroys her in H2H or he bullrushes her to the sun.
Bit off topic but you think Thor will beat CM after his forth movie, right? But how about Ikaris, do you think we should expect Thor to get something that will allow him to deal with Ikaris' speed?
Yeah Thor will definitely be comfortably above Carol and Wanda in his fourth film. As for Thor’s speed, (speculation) but I think since in the comics Thor’s fight with Gorr was famously in space at MFTL speeds, the MCU will do something similar. Especially with Waiti saying its crazier than anything and saying it’s just like the comics. So I think Thor’s space fight with Gorr will give him the speed he needs.
Since they were hella ambiguous about Ikaris’s leaving to the sun by cutting the screen I also think he’ll return and get more feats later on. Probably join an Avenger’s level fight or help CM, Strange, Thor fight a cosmic threat later on.
OT: Ikaris takes this comfortably. He statues, and pummels her with island level power or overloads her with HV that melted/tore apart a ship that can casually tank the temperatures of the sun.
The Marvels director have confirmed Carol is most powerful in MCU and is a big challenge to write a story about such a character
Ikaris takes this. He’s much much faster, more skilled, and more durable.
His casual cloud dispersion feat>>>>Carol’s feats
He statues and destroys her in H2H or he bullrushes her to the sun.
Bit off topic but you think Thor will beat CM after his forth movie, right? But how about Ikaris, do you think we should expect Thor to get something that will allow him to deal with Ikaris' speed?
Yeah Thor will definitely be comfortably above Carol and Wanda in his fourth film. As for Thor’s speed, (speculation) but I think since in the comics Thor’s fight with Gorr was famously in space at MFTL speeds, the MCU will do something similar. Especially with Waiti saying its crazier than anything and saying it’s just like the comics. So I think Thor’s space fight with Gorr will give him the speed he needs.
Since they were hella ambiguous about Ikaris’s leaving to the sun by cutting the screen I also think he’ll return and get more feats later on. Probably join an Avenger’s level fight or help CM, Strange, Thor fight a cosmic threat later on.
OT: Ikaris takes this comfortably. He statues, and pummels her with island level power or overloads her with HV that melted/tore apart a ship that can casually tank the temperatures of the sun.
The Marvels director have confirmed Carol is most powerful in MCU and is a big challenge to write a story about such a character
That was 4 freaking years ago lmao and he changed it to Wanda so it updates based on new films…figured you’d know this…Also the Eternals director said Thena who’s fodder to Ikaris would have a hard fight with Carol…lol.
@nassergrant19 No, it was on recent interview in october
: That's a really good question. For The Marvels, my biggest thing going into it was making sure I approached these characters as human beings and not necessarily as superheroes. I want to know more about Captain Marvel. Who is she? What are her fears? What drives her? How do you actually deal with being the most powerful being in the universe? How does that weigh on you? That's the sort of thing I want to explore.
@nassergrant19 No, it was on recent interview in october
: That's a really good question. For The Marvels, my biggest thing going into it was making sure I approached these characters as human beings and not necessarily as superheroes. I want to know more about Captain Marvel. Who is she? What are her fears? What drives her? How do you actually deal with being the most powerful being in the universe? How does that weigh on you? That's the sort of thing I want to explore.
Yeah that’s the Marvels director…she’s trying to hype her up and Feige said the same thing for Wanda lol. Plus that’s objectively not true. Most powerful in the universe? Lmao. Arishem, Surter, Hela, Dormamu would all clap her easily.
Meanwhile the Eternals director said Thena who’s fodder to Ikaris would give Carol a problem and it’d be a tough fight for her…
World Breaker Hulk film is coming soon as well so it doesn’t look good for her.
However like I said before when it’s all said and done Thor/Hulk/Adam Warlock will most likely be the new most powerful.
@nassergrant19: Source on Worldbreaker hulk. I can see Adam Warlock being more powerful
I mean you can just look it up. It’s all over the internet. However I think it’s pretty clear Thor/Adam/Hulk will be on top soon enough. I don’t wanna further debate predictions tho, we‘re derailing the thread.
@nassergrant19 No, it was on recent interview in october
: That's a really good question. For The Marvels, my biggest thing going into it was making sure I approached these characters as human beings and not necessarily as superheroes. I want to know more about Captain Marvel. Who is she? What are her fears? What drives her? How do you actually deal with being the most powerful being in the universe? How does that weigh on you? That's the sort of thing I want to explore.
People really need to stop treating WoG so highly in a verse built by multiple people. You are bound to find WoG that contradicts what's been established in-verse or what someone else stated.
@nassergrant19: do you think Carol will get a boost in The Marvels?
it looks like they'll be giving all of the high tiers boosts in phase 4
Yeah she’ll definitely get a boost. I think by Marvels both Carol and Thor respectively will have eclipsed Wanda due to their films being after MoM.
Overall Hulk is gonna get a massive power boost for WWH, Adam Warlock will be insanely powerful, and when they eventually bring Ikaris back he’ll be even more OP.
OT: Ikaris statues then destroys Carol with his island level power and HV capable of melting/tearing a ship in two that flew next to the sun.
@nassergrant19: Source on Worldbreaker hulk. I can see Adam Warlock being more powerful
I mean you can just look it up. It’s all over the internet. However I think it’s pretty clear Thor/Adam/Hulk will be on top soon enough. I don’t wanna further debate predictions tho, we‘re derailing the thread.
OT: Ikaris wins
Just because something on Internet does not mean it is true. Did reputed sites like Deadline, Hollywood reporter, variety report the news?
The distribution rights of Hulk is with Universal that is why Disney cant make a Hulk movie plus they already adopted part of Story for Thor Ragnarok
@nassergrant19: because he statued those deviants with his amazing speed, also one shotted then to huh?
Carol clowns this man
No cuz he caught Makkari who could run around the world several times in mere seconds. His HV then tore/melted apart a ship that flew next to the sun. Carol’s best feat is bullying a wounded Thanos with a sneak attack.
Can we stop only using outliers to debate this is the reason we can’t people can’t take debates serious on this site. Ikaris just like any other mcu char is not using extreme speed to blitz anyone or anything. His actual fighting speed is very visible to the human eye. Also Makkari didn’t run around the earth multiple times in one second she ran to a random spot on the earth and we have no way to accurately calc it because we don’t know where she started or where she went.
Also Ikaris stomps Carol is the most overrated MCU char
Also Makkari didn’t run around the earth multiple times in one second she ran to a random spot on the earth and we have no way to accurately calc it because we don’t know where she started or where she went.
Yes that’s another thing that’s lead to a lot of confusion is the fact that people think speedsters are constantly moving at their max speed everytime they move which isn’t true.
Yes that’s another thing that’s lead to a lot of confusion is the fact that people think speedsters are constantly moving at their max speed everytime they move which isn’t true.
I mean her friends were in danger of being killed by Ikaris and she knew this cuz Ajak was killed by him. I don’t see why she would randomly hold back her ultimate asset in a fight against him?
Her fighting a supposed killer>>>>>>Having a fun jog
Because combat speed and running speed is completely different we seen Ikaris in a serious fight with deviants and then we seen him fly out of earths atmosphere within a second. He was clearly moving much faster when he was just flying without actually fighting.
Because combat speed and running speed is completely different we seen Ikaris in a serious fight with deviants and then we seen him fly out of earths atmosphere within a second. He was clearly moving much faster when he was just flying without actually fighting.
Yeah but Makkari attacks with her running speed. That is her combat speed. He reacted to her trying to do a bloodlusted running blitz which is her fastest logically. His flight speed is faster than anyone in the MCU and yes his combat speed is slower than his flight however he still has the OP combat speed feat of reacting to her.
Bruh let’s not forget that he got blitzed like 100x before he actually landed a hit.
Yeah but let‘s not forget that Makkari was tagged several times with his HV while she was running to tag him. They were definitely comparable and even if you disagree with that when he catches her mid-blitz he says, “Enough”. Implying he wasn’t playing around anymore. Either way the fact remains that he blatantly reacted to her. Giving him insane combat speed in addition to his OP flight speed.
Anyways this stuff really isn’t important as we both agree he stomps Carol.
People are putting too much weight on the one time he managed to grab makkari saying he "statues" (she even came back later and blitzed him), he's still hit by various people across that scene who are nowhere near her speed.
Most of his feats in the movie aren't anything special. He loses handily to avengers 1 thor, hulk even without BFR, doesn't have their punching output.
Danvers. Say what u want, her missile tossing feat, energy absorption (literally no sold those space missiles from Thanos’s ship), energy blasts (one shot kree ships), durability (no sold Thanos headbut), and speed (shes slower but not sm that it’s a handicap) are enough here
Also Makkari didn’t run around the earth multiple times in one second she ran to a random spot on the earth and we have no way to accurately calc it because we don’t know where she started or where she went.
Canon tie-in.
Also Ikaris stomps Carol
Agreed, he’s just too OP in the MCU currently.
There has been no confirmation that this is canon.
Also Makkari didn’t run around the earth multiple times in one second she ran to a random spot on the earth and we have no way to accurately calc it because we don’t know where she started or where she went.
Canon tie-in.
Also Ikaris stomps Carol
Agreed, he’s just too OP in the MCU currently.
There has been no confirmation that this is canon.
Yes it is lmao. They’re the lost tales of the MCU Eternals throughout their many years on Earth.
Also Makkari didn’t run around the earth multiple times in one second she ran to a random spot on the earth and we have no way to accurately calc it because we don’t know where she started or where she went.
Canon tie-in.
Also Ikaris stomps Carol
Agreed, he’s just too OP in the MCU currently.
There has been no confirmation that this is canon.
Yes it is lmao. They’re the lost tales of the MCU Eternals throughout their many years on Earth.
Also Makkari didn’t run around the earth multiple times in one second she ran to a random spot on the earth and we have no way to accurately calc it because we don’t know where she started or where she went.
Canon tie-in.
Also Ikaris stomps Carol
Agreed, he’s just too OP in the MCU currently.
There has been no confirmation that this is canon.
Yes it is lmao. They’re the lost tales of the MCU Eternals throughout their many years on Earth.
Show me the confirmation that it is canon.
Use of the MCU version’s of the Eternals and statements of facts that were hashed out in the film. It’s pretty blatant they’re the MCU versions…dude. Literally everyone realizes this but you for OBVIOUS reasons…
@nassergrant19: That is completely irrelevant since she didn’t use that speed against him in them film everytime a speedster moves or fight doesn’t mean there automatically going at full speed y’all need to realize this
Bruh stop the high ball please Makkari fighting deviants seriously never moved at a speed that she could travel around earth casually lmao and it’s irrelevant to mention here since Ikaris never used this speed in combat at all during the film 🤣🤣 she blitzed him like 100x before he ever caught her MCU fans take anything and run with it 🤣
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