Poll (MCU) Captain Marvel & Scarlet Witch vs. (DCEU) Mera & Faora (125 votes)
- 1st battle takes place in a rural neighborhood.
- 2nd battle takes place on a beach.
- Morals off.
- Both teams have 30 minutes prep.
- Bloodlusted.
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You all are really underestimating MERA here
She jumped out of a plane folks without a chute bounced and was just fine. Sure it was on sand but that would still kill a human or severely inure at the very least and Wanda has human durability
She's also a more skilled fighter, see the Italy fight.
Wanda won't have the same emotional motivation she had when fighting thanos (who almost cut her in 2)or Ultron
She'll be like her airport or Africa battles. And there's still water all around in rural areas. Puddles, containers etc
There's no real argument for Faora winning here. She's demonstrably weaker, less durable, and doesn't have the advantage of flight or photon blasts. Carol could oneshot her with a charged tackle or just blow her helmet up and KO her via sensory overload. Mera is a non factor
Carol solos
It is funny watching people act like Wanda is untouchable. Explosion timer??? She was getting all she could handle in CQC against Proxima friggin Midnight. Even Thanos pushed her to the edge when she was extremely pissed. Neither of them even approach the speed of an explosion, Faora does. Faora would obliterate her and Mera with 30 minutes of prep (read the op, people) is definitely an issue. She is physically superior to Proxima and she can give Wanda hell with water projections.
Carol is below Kryptonians in durability,
she is not taking many hits from Faora and does not have the speed to keep up in close quarters. Based on her fights with the Kree and Thanos, Carol's striking power is nothing Faora has to worry about.
Like I said earlier: The key to this fight is neutralizing Wanda early so that Faora can fight Carol without interruption. Team 2 has the edge in tactical planning with prep considering they have better average tankiness and the speed advantage. The fight hinges on that, imo.
>times an explosion
>isn't an explosion timer
also extreme lol at comparing Faora to the Power Stone, girl got one-shot by 300 lbs of tnt
@eredin12@kryptonianking88 thoughts?
Faora and Nam-Ek had already matched Kal-El's strength and speed in Smallville. They even managed to briefly knock him out whereas Zod failed to. There's no reason to believe that she could not do the exact same thing that Zod did in that gif. I have done this before, they are equals.
@rajjarsalt:
She reacted to Crossbones pressing the detonator. Cap did the same thing but he does not have telekinetic mind powers; is he an explosion timer too? Wanda has normal human reaction times, nothing suggests otherwise.
Sensory overload but go ahead and ignore context like you did for explosion timing.
Power stone punch looks like nothing a kryptonian could not replicate, as shown in the gif above.
Faora and Nam-Ek had already matched Kal-El's strength and speed in Smallville. They even managed to briefly knock him out whereas Zod failed to. There's no reason to believe that she could not do the exact same thing that Zod did in that gif. I have done this before, they are quals.
@rajjarsalt:
She reacted to Crossbones pressing the detonator. Cap did the same thing but he does not have telekinetic mind powers; is he an explosion timer too? Wanda has normal human reaction times, nothing suggests otherwise.
Sensory overload but go ahead and ignore context like you did for explosion timing.
Power stone punch looks like nothing a kryptionian could not replicate, as shown in the gif above.
Except...Superman got explicitly stronger as the events of the film went on, and so did Zod.
Her aura enveloped the explosion itself as it expanded, meaning the energy moved that fast. There's also no proof she reacted to the timer, so...
Sensory overload doesn't affect durability/debunked by the novel.And your point is null even when there is no overload, as if it took that much to KO them to begin with.
I guess a Kryptonian can rep this too?
thats in smallville dude, what are you talking about. these are two different faoras, its obsurd to think they are the same. Just because King Kong beat Godzilla in 1963, does it mean he can do it in 2021? no. Why would you scale dceu faora to a smallville faora what are you talking about it makes zero sense.
Except...Superman got explicitly stronger as the events of the film went on, and so did Zod.
I disagree but it is of little consequence.
This punch came in the Smallville fight and is considerably more impressive than Zod's uppercut. Faora and Nam matched this Kal-El in strength and speed. This punch would fuck up Carol's day just like the power stone punch did. Even if you try to limit Faora's scaling to Smallville Battle Superman it still fails.
Her aura enveloped the explosion itself as it expanded, meaning the energy moved that fast. There's also no proof she reacted to the timer, so...
Yup, you are right. Wanda was just standing nearby picking her nose and only reacted once the explosion started. She totally missed what Rumlow was saying and what Cap noticed before Crossbones even pressed the detonator. Wanda has supersonic reaction times. Which means that Proxima and Thanos also have supersonic+ combat speed because they were pushing her to the limits in cqc as opposed to her statuing them. Of course this means Cap has supersonic++ speed because he was able to briefly overwhelm Thanos in cqc. Corvus is supersonic because he is Proxima's peer. Black Widow is supersonic+ because she was able to tag Corvus in cqc and react to Proxima. Okoye is supersonic because she fought Proxima in cqc and did not get statued. Vision is supersonic+ because he was able to fight Corvus hand to hand while injured. Bucky and T'Challa are supersonic because they scale to Cap. Hawkeye is supersonic because he fought Black Panther in cqc without being statued. Loki fought Cap so he is supersonic. Iron Man fought Cap so he is supersonic. Thor fought Iron Man so he is supersonic. Cull is supersonic because he was tagging Iron Man all day. Wow. There are so many supersonic+ characters in reaction and combat speed in the MCU that it begs the question: What made Quicksilver so special and how he was able to run circles around all of them while being around Mach 1 at best??? /s
The energy instantly appears wherever she wants it to it does not have to travel by traditional methods. Wanda has normal human reaction times. She would walk through people like Proxima if she had superspeed and Maria Hill would have brought it up when she explained the twins' abilities to Cap. Instead she only said that Pietro is fast. Why are you bringing up comic scans? WE HAVE THE FILM! We saw Cap react to the detonator before it was even pressed. Wanda was standing right behind him. If Wanda has superspeed then she never uses it in fights and so it is irrelevant here.
Sensory overload doesn't affect durability/debunked by the novel.And your point is null even when there is no overload, as if it took that much to KO them to begin with.
So were Faora and Zod's ears less durable than a humans when their masks were broken? Because they were wincing in pain from sound while humans were walking by unaffected. And can pain cause someone to pass out? Answer directly if you can.
Kal-El obliterating the top of that mountain is more than what an AGM-65 Maverick anti-tank missile (the one Faora palmed) is capable of and he was not knocked out by it. So yes, it does take more than that missile to knock out a kryptonian under normal circumstances. It takes other kryptonians striking them or something very powerful like a nuke.
Ignoring context is the sign of someone who has nothing to stand on.
I guess a Kryptonian can rep this too?
Keep moving those goalposts. We were talking about the MCU power stone punch compared to DCEU kryptonian striking.
Instead of bringing up comic scans that are made by completely different people maybe prove that the power stone punch is better than what a kryptonian can do?? I will be waiting.
Either MCU members solo the whole DCEU just for fun.
Mismatch both Carol and Wanda can solo.
Mismatch both Carol and Wanda can solo.
Either MCU members solo the whole DCEU just for fun.
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