MCU Captain America vs MCU Fandral

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Cap has his shield, Fandral has his sword. The fight is to the death or KO, and they start 10 yards apart.

Who wins and why?

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He has barely any feats.

Cap destroys him.

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Fandral is Loki level.

Fandral win

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Fandral is Loki level.

Fandral win

I don't think so, he hasn't done much to suggest that

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Fandral. He was comfortably beating Frost Giants and Marauders. Now, sure, those guys are just fodder. But they're still superhuman in stats, and far above most of the guys Cap deals with.

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Fandral is clearly better then a regular Asgardian but that's not enough to beat Cap.

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@buildhare: "Better" seems like a bit of an understatement...he's basically capable of fodderizing your standard Asgardian warriors.

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#11  Edited By hulkuberstomp

@buildhare said:

Fandral is clearly better then a regular Asgardian but that's not enough to beat Cap.

Any asgardian>>MCU Cap.These guys can toss cars around and tear steel like paper with bare hands.Also they are bulletproof.

Fandral was able to beat several asgardian soldiers at the same time>>>>Cap

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@hulkuberstomp:

Any asgardian>>MCU Cap.

Not by feats.

These guys can toss cars around

They've never done that.

tear steel like paper with bare hands

Steel doesn't hold up very well against Cap either;

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Also they are buletproof.

So were Ultron bots, not very helpful against someone who strikes as hard as Cap.

Fandral was able to beat several asgardian soldiers at the same time>>>>Cap

Ultron bots>=Asgardians and Cap did just fine against them.

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Easy win for Fandral.

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@hulkuberstomp:

Any asgardian>>MCU Cap.

Not by feats.

These guys can toss cars around

They've never done that.

tear steel like paper with bare hands

Steel doesn't hold up very well against Cap either;

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Also they are buletproof.

So were Ultron bots, not very helpful against someone who strikes as hard as Cap.

Fandral was able to beat several asgardian soldiers at the same time>>>>Cap

Ultron bots>=Asgardians and Cap did just fine against them.

1)Lady sif kicked 5-7 ton truck on severalmeters>>>Cap kicked car in CivilWar

2)In AoS peple with Asgardian's powers tossed car

3)Cap can not tear steel like it's paper.He tore apart Ultron's bot's limbs with dificulty and limbs are not as durable as solid steel or armor plates

4)Ultron bots have zero feats to sat that they are stronger than asgardians.Asgardians were able to beat Jotuns in h2h

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@hulkuberstomp:

1)Lady sif kicked 5-7 ton truck on severalmeters>>>Cap kicked car in CivilWar

You said "any asgardian". Sif is way above the average.

2)In AoS peple with Asgardian's powers tossed car

Haven't seen it, got a gif?

3)Cap can not tear steel like it's paper.He tore apart Ultron's bot's limbs with dificulty and limbs are not as durable as solid steel or armor plates

You just saw proof he can deform steel without much hassle, what's there to deny?

4)Ultron bots have zero feats to sat that they are stronger than asgardians.Asgardians were able to beat Jotuns in h2h

They were capable of brushing aside cars.

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Fandral but he won't stomp

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Cap. Frandal lacks feats

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@hulkuberstomp:

1)Lady sif kicked 5-7 ton truck on severalmeters>>>Cap kicked car in CivilWar

You said "any asgardian". Sif is way above the average.

2)In AoS peple with Asgardian's powers tossed car

Haven't seen it, got a gif?

3)Cap can not tear steel like it's paper.He tore apart Ultron's bot's limbs with dificulty and limbs are not as durable as solid steel or armor plates

You just saw proof he can deform steel without much hassle, what's there to deny?

4)Ultron bots have zero feats to sat that they are stronger than asgardians.Asgardians were able to beat Jotuns in h2h

They were capable of brushing aside cars.

1)Fandrl is not weaker than Sif

2)Watch episode where they got berserker stuff

3)With his bare hands?Where did he tore seel apart without his shield?

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@buildhare said:

Fandral is clearly better then a regular Asgardian but that's not enough to beat Cap.

Any asgardian>>MCU Cap.These guys can toss cars around and tear steel like paper with bare hands.Also they are bulletproof.

Fandral was able to beat several asgardian soldiers at the same time>>>>Cap

Thats not logic, its arguable cap is as strong and durable as the fodder asgardians

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@buildhare: "Better" seems like a bit of an understatement...he's basically capable of fodderizing your standard Asgardian warriors.

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Cheers mate!

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I completely forgot Fandral existed, but based on the stuff in this thread it seems like a pretty clear-cut victory in his favor. He's just physically superior.

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It would be weird if this fight occurred in the MCU and Cap won

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Cap kinda stomps.

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Fandral takes it

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#27  Edited By FoodTsibUd

Yes Cap stomps

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#28  Edited By js_the_beast

Cap doesn't stomp..

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I mean, Fandral doesn't have much in the way of actual feats, but based on scaling against average Asgardian stats, Cap's hardly stomping him. Logically, Fandral would be at least as physically capable as Sif, probably not as skilled

In theory, probably Fandral, for the same reasons someone like Sif would probably beat him. But Cap doesn't go down without a very solid fight

4)Ultron bots have zero feats to sat that they are stronger than asgardians.Asgardians were able to beat Jotuns in h2h

They were capable of brushing aside cars.

When did Ultron bots brush aside cars?

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@arcus1 said:

I mean, Fandral doesn't have much in the way of actual feats, but based on scaling against average Asgardian stats, Cap's hardly stomping him. Logically, Fandral would be at least as physically capable as Sif, probably not as skilled

In theory, probably Fandral, for the same reasons someone like Sif would probably beat him. But Cap doesn't go down without a very solid fight

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4)Ultron bots have zero feats to sat that they are stronger than asgardians.Asgardians were able to beat Jotuns in h2h

They were capable of brushing aside cars.

When did Ultron bots brush aside cars?

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Back left. Actually more impressive then I remember because I thought it just moved it a bit, it lifted and pushed off the entire thing.

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Fandral is not beatng Cap.

Sif has a better chance.

Still going with Cap even against Sif...

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Asgardian level strength shouldn't be underestimated

Side effect of a fight between a low-level Asgardian and humans with pieces of the Beserker staff (gives user roughly Asgardian level stats, maybe weaker, was never really clear), on Agents of Shield

Casual push from Sif did this

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@the_fallen_lord:

I don't think those gifs are on the same level as the others.

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How would Fandral win this fight?

I could see him being stronger, but the physical gap between Cap and Asgardians like Sif and the Warriors 3 isn't anywhere near as wide as the gap between Cap and Ultron/Iron Man, so it's not like that alone is enough to beat him. Fandral should be more skilled than those guys, but he's still not on Cap's level.

A guy who can walk this off shouldn't have much trouble with Asgardian physicals;

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@buildhare: How so? Effortlessly blocking a knife thrust from Ward and bending the blade with his bare hands without cutting himself and casually ripping apart a metal cell door off it's hinges is clearly above Cap's level. And note that Elliot is just a regular Asgardian soldier whereas Fandral being one of the finest warriors in Asgard should be several tiers above him as it's already been established in an above gif that how Fandral deals with fodder Asgardian soldiers. In fact, Loki, Sif and the Warriors Three are more or less on the same level.

The stat difference b/w Cap and an above average Asgardian is quite clear.

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And this is what happened the last time when Cap punched an Asgardian / Frost Giant.

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@buildhare: How so? Effortlessly blocking a knife thrust from Ward and bending the blade with his bare hands without cutting himself and casually ripping apart a metal cell door off it's hinges is clearly above Cap's level. And note that Elliot is just a regular Asgardian soldier whereas Fandral being one of the finest warriors in Asgard should be several tiers above him as it's already been established in an above gif that how Fandral deals with fodder Asgardian soldiers. In fact, Loki, Sif and the Warriors Three are more or less on the same level.

The stat difference b/w Cap and an above average Asgardian is quite clear.

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And this is what happened the last time when Cap punched an Asgardian / Frost Giant.

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I know asgardians have been depicted weakly because cap is the poster boy of MCU, but he should not be able to win this, theres a reason why fandral is part of the warriors three, its not like thor would have chose anyone else

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#39  Edited By uugieboogie

Yeah I don't see Cap beating Fandral. In-universe logic should be applied here.

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@the_fallen_lord:

How so? Effortlessly blocking a knife thrust from Ward

Ward is what, Olympic level in physicals? Stopping an attack from him isn't impressive for Cap or an Asgardian.

and bending the blade with his bare hands

Not sure why this would be that good either;

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7:20. Cap bends a much thicker piece of steel as early as TFA (albeit with more effort).

without cutting himself

Only part of this feat that's beyond Cap. But being immune to a knife thrust from Ward doesn't mean an Asgardian can handle strikes with better piercing damage than minigun fire.

casually ripping apart a metal cell door off it's hinges is clearly above Cap's level

Only the hinges matter and they're regular steel, not at all above Cap's level of strength (he's forced open a locked armored door by breaking it in Avengers, although I can't find it apparently).

And note that Elliot is just a regular Asgardian soldier whereas Fandral being one of the finest warriors in Asgard should be several tiers above him as it's already been established in an above gif that how Fandral deals with fodder Asgardian soldiers.

Skill wise no doubt, physicals...probably not. Unlike Loki or even Volstagg it's never been shown or even indicated that Fandral is physically impressive amongst Asgardians.

In fact, Loki, Sif and the Warriors Three are more or less on the same level.

Loki is above all of them bar Sif (and that's without magic) by feats. They aren't as good as him and that's obvious.

The stat difference b/w Cap and an above average Asgardian is quite clear.

Sif pushes a caravan across the car park, Cap kicks a ute/truck a short distance with enough force to knock someone out. If you want to go on what Cap has pushed there's another AOS feat you could use;

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...and that's a strength feat for Sif that's clearly better than anything else the Warriors 3 have done, so it's a bit of a stretch to assume Fandral could replicate it.

And this is what happened the last time when Cap punched an Asgardian / Frost Giant.

Did you want him to punch his head off or something? He staggered and clearly phased him, if you're looking for something that says the guy who hurt IM with his fists can't hurt Fandral that gif isn't it.

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@buildhare: Fandral can beat several guys who>>>Cap in strength and durability.

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Captain America, easily.

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@mrnoital: I agree. An average Asgardian is about Luke Cage level who's above Cap.

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Cap isn't winning this

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Cap stronger, faster and more skilled.

The Fight would last a few seconds.

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Fandral is stronger and more durable I don't see Cap winning Fandral is one of the best warriors on Asgard he's tiers above the standard soldiers who are above Cap anyways