MCU Captain America vs Flag Smashers

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Steve Rogers replaces Falcon, Winter Soldier, USAgent, and Battlestar. He will go in their place and fight this entire super soldier team by himself. Cap is fully motivated and won't quit unless he dies. Can he put away 4-5 other super soldiers?

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#3  Edited By The_Hajduk

@banditarla said:

The flag smashers seem way stronger by portrayal but at the same time, they only seemed to come out of the shadows once Cap was confirmed to be out of the picture for good.

Cap is as strong as any super soldier, this is what a super soldier looks like when they don't hold back or have Steve Rogers' heart and restraint.

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I cant see him clearing alone. Add Panther with CW suit and they can win

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I don't see him losing in a straight fight. This is essentially a stats equalized fight (2 of them were needed to restrain Bucky) and Cap has obvious skill/experience on them. The shield should also be a one shot if he goes all out.

But in this specific scenario, I think FS have decent odds of BFRing him.

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#7  Edited By The_Hajduk

@banditarla said:

@the_hajduk: Don't think so, Isisah was telling a story about he tore off Bucky's arm, Cap's never been portrayed like that.

Not really, all we know is that they had a brutal battle which involved half of Bucky's arm being destroyed, but both of them walked away alive. We don't know what kind of tools of context Isaiah had to achieve this, but we know the fight was inconclusive. The implication is they were pretty on par and Bucky specifically says "There are other people like us" implying that he, Isaiah, and the Flag Smashers are all similar.

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I don't see him losing in a straight fight. This is essentially a stats equalized fight (2 of them were needed to restrain Bucky) and Cap has obvious skill/experience on them. The shield should also be a one shot if he goes all out.

But in this specific scenario, I think FS have decent odds of BFRing him.

Remember John Walker was doing very well against multiple Flag Smashers just because he knew how to use the shield as a weapon. He didn't even have enhanced stats, the shield is just that good.

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He was getting held up by Batroc, hes gonna have a hard time with Karli 1on1. No way hes taking all of them.

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He did pretty well against Ultron in a similar setting but as people pointed out Batroc and Crossbones were giving him grief (albeit briefly) despite not being super soldiers. Could go either way I guess

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5 might be too many.

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Clears if it's morals off, I would actually love to see Cap stomp this team

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Cap couldn't stomp Bucky 1vs1 but could stomp 5 people just like Bucky alone... That's BS

The FS kills him...

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Meh, Cap's stats are sometimes all over the place.

Showings in team up movies and in universe hierarchy would have you believe Cap can beat them with his shield if he goes all out. I mean, Cap is more skilled than Thor at this point and he has left Bucky far behind in terms of experience as well. In TWS, Cap did break Bucky's arm and beat him even after getting shot multiple times. If Cap isn't holding back, he can deal with people above his stats. Flag smashers aren't above him in anything. At most they have similar strength and much inferior skill. With the shield, Cap can probably clear.

But yeah, Cap has some anti feats too. Batrock, Rumlow etc can hold their own against him. WS mode Bucky can bully Cap if he's not prepared to go all out and so on

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#15  Edited By alextheboss

@johndeyvido said:

Cap couldn't stomp Bucky 1vs1 but could stomp 5 people just like Bucky alone... That's BS

The FS kills him...

A bloodlusted winter soldier would have killed them all tbh. And Cap held his own against Ultron, who could obviously solo this team.

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It was obvious that the shield was giving the flag smasher's problems, despite, Us. Agent not being enhanced or not knowing how to properly use it. With Cap using the Shield he will be able to one shot mutiple flag smashers and his skill and strength should allow him to take the down the rest.

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Steve, Bucky would probably solo aswell if he was in WS-mode.

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#18  Edited By mexcomics2078

@subline: Bucky was severely holding back in that fight tbh and he barely got hurt. With TWS Gear and mindset e should solo.

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Bucky isn't 100% mentally but I don't think he's far worse than he was when he fought (or beat) Steve, and two restrained him for a while. Flag Smashers.

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#20 death4bunnies  Moderator  Online

On paper Cap isn’t beating 6 skilled super soldiers.

Problem is I don’t know if they are just enhanced or skilled enhanced.

Cap for now..but this could change.

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@buildhare: Bucky would 100% solo if he was his blood lusted Winter Solider self, his character is extremely conflicted right now if you think his performance against the smashers is close to his performance against Steve in the Captain America: The Winter Solider movie then we are watching two very different things lol.

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Cap wins, the soldiers are just regular civilian or at most ex military.

Bucky obviously got taken by surprise and he didn’t have the right battle mindset at the moment compared to Steve or winter soldier.

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He could probably beat 4 of them with the shield, 6 would be a bit too much.

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Cap wins. He can one-shot them all with his vibramium shield. U.S agent almost beat two of them and he isn't even enhanced yet.

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Cap takes this.

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steve roger win

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Captain America is skilled super-human while Flag Smashers are mostly street fighters. So easily Cap.

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Like other users said, WS mode Bucky would beat all the Flag Smashers solo, and Cap would beat them too with the right mindset.

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Captain America wins he is too skilled.

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Cap stomps them.

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Serious cap or Bucky can beat even the 8 flag smashers together

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#33 rogueshadow  Moderator

Bucky isn't 100% mentally but I don't think he's far worse than he was when he fought (or beat) Steve, and two restrained him for a while. Flag Smashers.

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5 might be too many.

Cap doesn't have something to clearly one shot them with.

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Yeah no way is he clearing them. Karli and a +1 gets the job done.

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#36  Edited By slemangerdy

if this is the fight on trucks, cap 6.5/10, cap is shown to be more powerful than any super soldier in mcu, because just having super strength doesn't make you powerful, bucky easily beat them 1v1 in the warehouse (which they became stronger and were more prepared), and cap with the shield in 2 constantly moving Rectangular arena, he gains the upper hand by throwing them off the truck as they try to catch up he just beats the ones on the truck then throws them two, assuming the flag smashers want those trucks as all of their equipments are in there and they won't give it up easily, so cap easily wins because of experience, his fight with ultron will confirms it for you, but if this is the warehouse in ep4, then i am afraid cap gets murdered, 1/10, he has no chance against a bunch of flying knives and a team of prepared supersoldier.

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#37  Edited By Bien008

Steve summons Mjolnir and fries the Flagsmashers altogether with a lightning strike lmfao.

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#38  Edited By Bien008

Steve could solo the entire TFATW characters with Mjolnir HAHAHA

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Cap easily

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Steve seemed to be the most powerful super-soldier during and after Age of ultron..

I can't see the flagsmashers surviving to Thanos' punches, or beating Iron Man, or holding back Thanos hand, or facin Ultron like Steve did.

Cap Stomps.

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Cap gets dogpiled like Bucky (his equal) did.